Premier League 22/23 Thread

[lejackal]

Agreed. It always makes me laugh when rubbish sides sack their managers after losing to far superior opposition. What did they expect would happen? They're Bournemouth, not Real Madrid, and they were playing Liverpool.

As Weasel said though they should really have **** up shop after a couple or three goals

 

[lejackal]

Shut

 

[weasel]

Agreed, but the wording reads like the Board didnt like him saying the team wasn't good enough. I suspect he has been told he has so much to spend and it isnt much. His comments after the Liverpool game were basically a challenge to the Board to spend. They are a tightly run club, they stay in budget and dont take risks. That was never gonna change. I'm still surprised they fired him rather than giving him a slap on the wrists, but maybe they already knew he wasnt PL standard.

Did anyone have him as first manager to be sacked?

Utd spending £82m on a winger who has never scored 10 goals in a season in the Eredivise does look like…….well, desperation. No way he is worth that, but that's what they had to pay to get him. Given their track record with expensive signings, Pogba, Maguire, Di Maria, Veron…..

 

[lejackal]

Nope, we almost all went for Frankie

 

[edd_jedi]

Looks like Brendan is going to be next at this rate!

 

[theforceuk]

Utd could have got Antony for around £50 million in May but they were all in on DeYong. So now they over pay even more than they usually do. It's a desperate signing because the Glazers are panicking about the fans Glazers out movement. Antony was always one of Ten Hags priorities. As was DeYong, Timber, Erickson, Nunez and a couple others he hasn't got. People saying Ten Hag has spent £240 million, £140 million of that is on two players that haven't been available to start yet! The Glazers love over paying because as soon as results go south Ten Hag will take the flak because of the money he's spent. Although he clearly listed who he wanted in May, pretty much the same time all the other top clubs wrapped there business up for the summer. Ronaldo stays by the looks of things, thank god for that, don't fancy replacing his 20 odd goals this season on the last day of the transfer window.

 

[edd_jedi]

Well that was abysmal from Spurs, lucky to scrape a point tonight. I can't fathom why he took Kulesevski off and left Son on, Son is having a shocker so far this season. And I'm not sure what Conte sees in the Sanchez/Dier/Davies combo at the back, they've been sloppy for the last few seasons, tonight was a textbook example! On the plus side, still unbeaten and two of our bogey teams out of the way (Chelsea and the Hammers.)

 

[Cazza]

Should've won that one, but at least we seem to be getting it together now. Shame Scamacca was out tonight.

 

[edd_jedi]

That was some serious Fergie time for Liverpool tonight, Newcastle were robbed of a point there. Final whistle should have gone long before the corner.

 

[lejackal]

Sadly the scousers in the bar I'm in thought it was fair.

 

[weasel]

I turned the Pool game off at HT and went to bed. I couldn't face any more **** stale possession. It sounds like it didn't get much better in the second half. Given how much time wasting Newcastle where doing in the first half, which I assume continued/got worse in the second half, is the ET not about right? I didn't see it so I can't say.


As for Utd over paying. I don't think it's anything to do with the Glazier's being worried about the fans wanting them out. Why would they care? They are never there, they live in America. They ONLY bought Utd to leech it dry. They know the fans will rumble them soon enough and not be happy. I suspect the 100m a yr they pay themselves for FA cushions any worry about Utd fans calling them names or hating them. The reason Utd pay so much in fees is cos 1) Their board are ***** at transfers. 2) Everyone knows this and takes advantage. 3) English clubs normally get ripped off cos foreign clubs know they are rich. 4) Utd are buying right at the end of the window and from a club who don't want to sell, so they get hit with two extra premiums.
Yer boy is probably priced at 3 times what he is worth, but such is Utd.

 

[theforceuk]

It's completely to do with the Glazers shitting themselves, the week before Murta was in Italy for that Enartavic not Shaw how you spell it! And another player for a grand total of £25 million and that would have been that. Fast forward a week later after two defeats and a rumour of a billionaire interested in buying the club and the Glazers panick into spending £150 million on a 30 year old DM from Madrid and Antony from Ajax. It's so obvious what there doing, same as after the Super League last season. You sound as gullible as a United fan walking around with a £100 Antony shirt on @weasel and I know your not so stick to Liverpool news.

Ajax offered Antony to us for €80 million euros in June but the Glazers said to much. The Glazer's are completely crapping themselves.

 

[weasel]

I don't agree. I don't think the Glazier's have much hands on say in how Utd is run, bar making sure they get their 100 odd million. I suspect the day to day running is done by whatever Ed Woodward's replacement is called.
They may have panicked and realised that they needed more players, or it may just be they FINALLY realised that DJ wasnt going to join and moved on to their next target. Given how late it was in the window they paid the 'we cant get a replacement' premium, as well as the inevitable 'you're english' and 'you're Utd/morons' premiums.

A sensibly run club would have given up in DJ after two weeks of him /Barca ******* about, or at the very very least been working on target number 2 or 3 while waiting for resolution from him/Barca. But we all know Utd are far far from competent. In fact, it's hard to see how anyone could actually do a worse job of running a club, unless you appointed the most diehard Liverpool fan and allowed him to buy Stevie Wonder for £700m.

My impression is the Glazier's just sit back and leech money from afar, they dont care about the day to day running, as long as they get paid. That's why they put Ed Woodward in charge, cos they knew and trusted him. You may be right, you follow Utd closer than I do. But the Glazier's own a few sports teams (I think) so I doubt they have the time to devote to following the ins and outs of each. They just leech and delegate.

As for Anthony, you're probably right, you could have got him for less earlier in the window, but see my point about incompetent clubs only going for one target at a time.


On another note, Brendan Rodgers says Leicester's aim this season is to get 40 pts. Jesus. That's one hell of a downgrade to go from missing out in CL on the last day, to what is all but "we'll be happy just to stay up". I knew that club had problems, but **** me….

 

[theforceuk]

No Joel Glazer is a complete control freak and has the last say on any transfer in or out. They don't just sit back and take the dividends at all.

 

[weasel]

Really?Dafuq does he know about football?

That does surprise me, but, like I said, I don't follow Utd that closely. I just laugh from afar.

 

[theforceuk]

I think the Glazers laugh from afar as well.

Who's getting sacked next,
Lampard, Gerrard or Rodgers?

 

[weasel]

One of the latter two.

Brendan is trying his best to go the Scott Parker route. Stevie is just stinking the place out.
Hopefully Pool put 9 on Everton on Sat and that throws Fat Frank under the bus. But I'm expecting a repeat of what they did last year, time wasting, play acting and generally cuntiness from the kick off. I saw Leeds fans complaining about Everton doing it against them in midweek. If they do it against Leeds you can be dam sure they will do it against Pool.
Obviously that is why they appointed Fat Frank instead of Fat Sam (again)/ Steve Bruce/Sean Dyche etc. cos he guarantees lovely on the eye successful football. Rolls his eyes.

 

[theforceuk]

I see Villa have got City at home this weekend and Leicester away the week after. Battle of the jobs that is.

 

[weasel]

It would be harsh to sack anyone after taking a beating from this City side, but you could be right. The loser of Villa Leicester may well be getting a few months off. Neither could have many complaints.

 

[edd_jedi]

Great game against Fulham today although Spurs were very unlucky not to be 5 or 6 up when Mitrovich scored, two goals disallowed and hit the post twice. It seems Son is cursed at the moment, I don't see why his goal was disallowed, Harry Kane was nowhere near blocking the keepers view when the ball was kicked but at least he played well today.

And bad luck to West Ham, nearly had Chelsea.

 

[edd_jedi]

Yeah pretty much exactly what I said above!

 

[edd_jedi]

Just watched MOTD. Some crazy VAR decisions yesterday, not least West Ham's disallowed goal. But was Stevie Wonder on VAR for this one? Kane is about 10 feet out of the keeper's view! Absolute bollocks. At least it didn't cost us the game as it did for West Ham. How are they not held accountable for these constant, terrible decisions?

 

[theforceuk]

Yeah Villa had a perfectly good goal disallowed for off side, linesman put his flag up very quickly which I thought they weren't supposed to do.

 

[weasel]

Another great week for the morons who work VAR. There was **** all squared wrong with that WH goal. How you can call that a foul I do not know. If you're giving that as a foul then no game in the PL will finish with 10 players on the pitch, never mind 22. The annoying thing is the dick who disallowed that will continue to do VAR and face no repercussions. That point WH lost and the 2 Chelsea gained could literally end up deciding CL qualification and have tens of millions of Pounds resting on it. It's not even as if it was remotely debatable. It just isnt a foul.

The Newcastle one was just as bad. Yes, Willock does foul the keeper, but ehhh it's cos the defender SHOVES him. If you disallow the goal it can only be cause you are giving Newcastle a penalty. Otherwise defenders can shove forwards into keepers with impunity.

I haven't seen the Sours game so I cant comment.


ps, as it stands Pool have a fight on their hands to make CL. They look so flat and devoid of ideas. Injuries don't help, but it just feels like a spark is missing.

 

[weasel]

Just watched MOTD. Some crazy VAR decisions yesterday, not least West Ham's disallowed goal. But was Stevie Wonder on VAR for this one? Kane is about 10 feet out of the keeper's view! Absolute bollocks. At least it didn't cost us the game as it did for West Ham. How are they not held accountable for these constant, terrible decisions?

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That is a shocker.

 

[weasel]

Yeah Villa had a perfectly good goal disallowed for off side, linesman put his flag up very quickly which I thought they weren't supposed to do.

Yeah and what are the odds, it benefits City. Not seen that happen before. Ohh wait, they got a ridiculous call against Palace last week. The one club that does NOT need VAR seems to be the club benefiting the most.

 

[Cazza]

Just when you think VAR can't get any worse. So corrupt. It's not a level playing field, but what can be done?

 

[theforceuk]

The linesman should have let play go on for the Villa goal, VAR probably would have given it. It was a tidy finish as well.

 

[weasel]

It didnt look offside in the one, full speed, angle I have seen. Ederson does go at it half heartedly so the fact the flag went up did influence him. But as @theforceuk says, why did he put his flag up? Week in week out the flag stays down when someone is 10 yards offside, but for a close one like that the flag goes up like a shot.

 

[theforceuk]

You ready for some Ten Hag ball @lejackal Arsenal getting smacked up today.