Premier League 23/24 Thread

[theforceuk]

Yeah I may have to edit my PLP really think Wolves and Palace are going to struggle. Surely a sacking doesn't count before a ball has been kicked, unless you count the charity shield as the start?

 

[lejackal]

Yeah I may have to edit my PLP really think Wolves and Palace are going to struggle. Surely a sacking doesn't count before a ball has been kicked, unless you count the charity shield as the start?

Ditto - now West Ham have actually signed players they'll stay up

 

[weasel]

This is why I think the window should either close the day the season starts. Or it should never close.
It's almost as if the FA/PL/UEFA don't think about our predications thread when they decide this stuff

 

[lejackal]

This is why I think the window should either close the day the season starts. Or it should never close.
It's almost as if the FA/PL/UEFA don't think about our predications thread when they decide this stuff

Inconsiderate arseholes

 

[weasel]

Right, so Pool spend a month ******* about over Lavia and then Chelsea decide to hijack it. Pool respond by bidding for Caicedo, who has been Chelsea bound for more than a month, and now Caicedo looks to be going to Anfield. And feck knows what happens to Lavia.

All very strange. Normally Pool are very good at transfer, this summer has been weird though. The Lavia thing was a farce, getting Caicedo for twice the price is proably better/less bad value for money. But 100m is massive massive money, especially for Pool.

Also, why bail on Bellingham over cost then go and spunk more on Caicedo?

Looks like Kane is off to Bayern. And just to kick Spurs fans when they are down, BBC Gossip page says they ate going to spend a chunk of the money on Lukaku.
Surely that can't be true. The man is a ******* donkey. He has flopped at Chelsea, twice, and Utd. The only time he look half decent in the PL was at WBA and Everton. Does that not give a big hint to his level?
Richarlison and Lukaku has to be the worst PL strike force since Jason Lee and Andy Silenzin at Forrest in 97 and ehh they went down.
Also not sure Ange would want a huge lump up front. But if it does happen, I wouldn't blame Spurs fans for giving up on football.

 

[weasel]

And now apparently Caicedo has decided he only wants to join chelsea. Which is nice!

I am biased, but why anyone would join Chelsea I do not know. Money is the obvious one. But that club is an utter shambles. I'd take any of the "big 6" over Chelsea. But apparently Caicedo thinks differently.

 

[weasel]

This Caicedo thing is a ******* farce.

Apparently it's his agent telling him to stall, cos the agent gets more money if he moves to Chelsea. Chelsea cant afford to match the package Pool have down so they are trying to interest Brighton in a few players on top of a fee. Chelsea have pulled out of signing Tyler Adams from Leeds too. That club is an utter utter shambles. Caicedo's agent is no better, even the Brighton CEO has slatted him.

This whole transfer is a ******* mess. Wherever he ends up, he needs a new agent and Chelsea need to sort their transfer strategy out. What kinda club is left coming in with a last minute bid, after being gazzumped cos they were ******* about, only to discover they cant afford the fee and trying to fire in a few squad players?
Will Brighton even want any of the players Chelsea offer? They would take Colvil but I doubt he is on offer. The rest……
Chances are they are on more money than Brighton can offer too so the player will be taking a pay cut. Plus, given how good Brighton are at scouting/recruitment, I suspect they would prefer 110m cash than some overrated and over paid cast off.

WHAT. A. SHAMBLES.

 

[lejackal]

Agents are *****. Almost exclusively

 

[weasel]

Liverpool finally sign a CDM…..paying 18m for a 30yr old Japanese fella from Stuttgart whose career reads….. Shonan Bellmare, Urawa Red Diamonds, Sint-Triuden and Stuttgart.

From Bellingham, Caicedo and the unheard of but promising Lavia, to a Japanese fella who doesn't fit the model Pool have worked on for years.


You can SMELL the desperation. To say I am underwhelmed would be an understatement. What's the word for being five levels below 'underwhelmed'?

 

[lejackal]

I mean I don't doubt Klopp will get a tune out of him, but surely there must've been someone between him and Caicedo that was available?

 

[theforceuk]

Don't no though Klopp is qaulity at finding a rough diamond.

 

[edd_jedi]

Would you want Hojbjerg? I always thought he was pretty good in that role, and looks like he's not getting any game time at Spurs

 

[weasel]

Oh aye, klopp is good at finding unspotted talent. Or making average players better. But Pool have always gone for younger, cheaper, players. Partly cos they don't have the money for the top players and partly cos Klop's style require midfielders who can run and run and run. Yer man is 30. It's a big ask to learn PL footy and Liverpool's (traditional) high tempo style at that age.

 

[edd_jedi]

Really wasn't expecting a Spurs win today, but it was a great game! United should 100% have had a penalty, but I still think we deserved the 3 points.

 

[theforceuk]

Just rubbish from United, desperately need a striker in the starting 11 and Mount and Bruno doesn't work. Antony is quickly turning into a flop.

 

[weasel]

Really wasn't expecting a Spurs win today, but it was a great game! United should 100% have had a penalty, but I still think we deserved the 3 points.

Liverpool had one like that last week against Chelsea and it wasn't given either.

On the MacAllister sending off, fair enough the foot was high, but there was FA force in it. It was never gonna be a leg breaker. A red card and a 3 game ban seems ridiculisly excessive. Especially when Chaoloba got Konate side on in the ribs last week and someone got Gakpo full on in the chest. Gakpo even took his shirt off to show the ref the stud marks. Both incidents are yellow cards. They can't be yellows if MacAllister is getting sent off.
But then we all know the standard of refereeing in the PL is utterly woeful and VAR is done by the same incompetent ******s.

The referees are getting worse too

 

[weasel]

Well done WH. A victory for football.

Was Caicedo that bad?

 

[Cazza]

Horrible performance from us- we were absolutely abysmal from 15 mins until we got the second. Then, somehow, we pulled the result out of the bag and somehow ended up deserving the win. Hilarious that their penalty miss and penalty conceded were both players that cost 100m+. Ridiculous club. For all their possession, they didn't really create an awful lot. Got to say, Sterling looked back to his best. We couldn't live with their pace and power for a while, but they didn't do anything with it. Got a feeling, when it clicks, they will be very good.

 

[weasel]

Here's hoping it doesn't click for them. Too many new players who all need time to bed and and poor Poch cant decide which of the 97 players he has are his best options.

 

[lejackal]

Now I'll start this by saying we were a little fortunate to get our penalty and Palace unlucky not to get theirs, however, I've not a clue how Tomiyasu barely touching Ayew is worthy of a yellow and Ayew on Saka is not. Both players were already on yellows so we went down to ten men. Surely that's not right?

 

[edd_jedi]

Yes I heard they were two very soft yellows. But... Arsenal win with a penalty with 10 men, the good luck keeps rolling in!

 

[Cazza]

Was Ayew through when he was fouled? That would make all the difference. Aguerd's first yellow against Chelsea looked similar- he barely touched the guy.

 

[lejackal]

Was Ayew through when he was fouled? That would make all the difference. Aguerd's first yellow against Chelsea looked similar- he barely touched the guy.

I'm not sure this constitutes through - he was still ten meters inside his own half where the "contact" happened.

 

[Cazza]

Hmmm, not through, but he would've had a lot of space. Does seem harsh, but I can see why it was given. The massive problem is the consistency.

I'm all for sorting out time wasting- watching the Brentford throws last year was absolutely infuriating and the Sky 6 teams are masters at skanky gamemanship, but it must be consistent.

The dissent as well, is a good move. Certain teams seem to get away with surrounding the ref and the coaches behave appallingly on the touchline (Arteta, I'm looking at you!). Got to be consistent though!

 

[lejackal]

Tomi was unlucky on the time wasting front. Partey had the ball first, then Havertz for 15 seconds and Tomi took the throw in a fairly reasonable 8 seconds. His mates have cost him

 

[Cazza]

Yeah, it's more like a yellow for the team. Hopefully it will make them think about it and sharing out fouls and time wasting as a team will become a thing of the past.

 

[lejackal]

Yeah, it's more like a yellow for the team. Hopefully it will make them think about it and sharing out fouls and time wasting as a team will become a thing of the past.

Yep. Not like we're the worst for it though so it would be nice to see them doing the same to a few other teams, and maybe dishing out a few yellows/reds when Newcastle come to town again (either for time wasting or for kicking the **** out of our players)

 

[Cazza]

Yeah, agree about Newcastle. Brentford are terrible as well.

 

[weasel]

Hmmm, not through, but he would've had a lot of space. Does seem harsh, but I can see why it was given. The massive problem is the consistency.

I'm all for sorting out time wasting- watching the Brentford throws last year was absolutely infuriating and the Sky 6 teams are masters at skanky gamemanship, but it must be consistent.

The dissent as well, is a good move. Certain teams seem to get away with surrounding the ref and the coaches behave appallingly on the touchline (Arteta, I'm looking at you!). Got to be consistent though!

Agreed with all of that.

Tomi was unlucky on the time wasting front. Partey had the ball first, then Havertz for 15 seconds and Tomi took the throw in a fairly reasonable 8 seconds. His mates have cost him

Agreed with that too.


And see my initial comments when the rumours broke that they were going to punish time wasting, Newcastle and Everton (along with Brentford) are APPALLING for it.

That was why I loved Pool's 98th minute winner against them last year. They had time wasted all game and took the ******* piss royally in stoppage time. Slap it right up them

 

[Cazza]

Tomi was unlucky on the time wasting front. Partey had the ball first, then Havertz for 15 seconds and Tomi took the throw in a fairly reasonable 8 seconds. His mates have cost him

TalkSport were on about this earlier and said it was a 'team yellow'. Hopefully the players will take note!