Who would have thought the UK would have more prime ministers than Chelsea have managers in the same season.
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Premier League 22/23 Thread
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I heard Spurs were poor last night, or Utd were good, delete as appropriate.
Though someone on the radio was saying Spurs havent actually been playing that well. But have just ground out a few results or been on the right end of a few narrow wins.
Worse habits to have than winning when playing badly though.
Though someone on the radio was saying Spurs havent actually been playing that well. But have just ground out a few results or been on the right end of a few narrow wins.
Worse habits to have than winning when playing badly though.
I agree that Ronaldo should have thought first before leaving the bench and going down the tunnel, but come on he is the best player we've ever seen, if he had started last night he would have converted at least one or two of the chances that rashford fluffed, and the ones that Fred fluffed, FFS start him then bench him! Rashford had chances, but did he score… no.
look at Haaland against the scousers, didn't get a look in, but Pep won't bench him
drives me mad that Ronaldo gets so much flack, give him the ball in a scoring opportunity and he will score … simple as that
i think United bossed the game last night and pressed, closed down and harried spurs, didn't give them a second on the ball, so I'm happy with that all day long.
let's see how we do against Chelsea, as that will be a different game, but if we play the pressing game, close players down and play with passion and get beat, I can live with that.
look at Haaland against the scousers, didn't get a look in, but Pep won't bench him
drives me mad that Ronaldo gets so much flack, give him the ball in a scoring opportunity and he will score … simple as that
i think United bossed the game last night and pressed, closed down and harried spurs, didn't give them a second on the ball, so I'm happy with that all day long.
let's see how we do against Chelsea, as that will be a different game, but if we play the pressing game, close players down and play with passion and get beat, I can live with that.
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That's Gerrard sacked, only two wins this season not really surprising. Would have liked to see him get more time.
The problem with Ronaldo is the effect he has on the rest of the team. It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't respect the other 10 players on the field or your manager. He should take up golf or something where he can be the main man.
Now confirmed that Ronaldo refused to come on against Spuds before walking off in a sulk.
I can't agree @Michael Sith.
Ronaldo may have scored those chances, we will never know, but the question is 'would have had the legs to get into those positions?' Given he was apparently pretty anonymous against Newcastle, and hasn't exactly looked great when I have seen him play, I would be inclined to say 'no'. He may have been the best player Utd has ever had, though his best days were at Real not Utd, regardless those days are gone now! He is 37 and needs an entire team build around him. No major club is going to do that in the era of high intensity high pressing. Ten Haag certainly doesn't want to build his team around an ageing super star, and rightly so. OGS did it, probably not by choice, and look what that did to Utd. Ronaldo scored loads of goals, he is a goal scorer, but when the rest of the team have to press with one man less they get picked off and thumped.
And yeah, fat maguire playing then didn't help. I freely admit that. Ronaldo is far from Utd's biggest/only problem, but they are a better side without him in the team. And he knows it, hence his sulking. He likes nothing more than media attention. It's hard to get that on the bench, unless you throw a hissy fit and make it all about you to try and force your way back into the team. Fair ****s to Ten Haag for basically telling him to **** up. People should have said that to the little narcissist a lot more often a LONG LONG time ago.
I can't agree @Michael Sith.
Ronaldo may have scored those chances, we will never know, but the question is 'would have had the legs to get into those positions?' Given he was apparently pretty anonymous against Newcastle, and hasn't exactly looked great when I have seen him play, I would be inclined to say 'no'. He may have been the best player Utd has ever had, though his best days were at Real not Utd, regardless those days are gone now! He is 37 and needs an entire team build around him. No major club is going to do that in the era of high intensity high pressing. Ten Haag certainly doesn't want to build his team around an ageing super star, and rightly so. OGS did it, probably not by choice, and look what that did to Utd. Ronaldo scored loads of goals, he is a goal scorer, but when the rest of the team have to press with one man less they get picked off and thumped.
And yeah, fat maguire playing then didn't help. I freely admit that. Ronaldo is far from Utd's biggest/only problem, but they are a better side without him in the team. And he knows it, hence his sulking. He likes nothing more than media attention. It's hard to get that on the bench, unless you throw a hissy fit and make it all about you to try and force your way back into the team. Fair ****s to Ten Haag for basically telling him to **** up. People should have said that to the little narcissist a lot more often a LONG LONG time ago.
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Ronaldo probably the fittest player in the Utd squad, like I said before our number 9's don't get service, Haaland would have struggled to get 24 goals in that team last season. I'm not defending him but you shouldn't get how much of a twat he's being with how he's performing on the pitch confused. Look at the stats, Newcastle put more crosses into the box than Man Utd. Even Rashford only scores when he's a wide forward. Ronaldo should have been sold in June. He didn't have a pre season that's why he's not as sharp, he will get a move and bang in goals at another club for the next couple of seasons at least. As for the other players being up set at him, sums up the mentality of that squad, I don't like one of the best players ever because he's won everything at club level multiple times and has told me how crap I am and it's not good enough. Those players need to be sold in January as well!!! Right Ronaldo off and he will prove you wrong, he's been doing it for 20 years.
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No I'm still not writing Liverpool off until after the World Cup!
I'm sorry but last season Ronaldo….
Appearances: 38
Starts: 34
Goals: 24
Assists: 3
in all honesty, irrespective of who you support …would you want the player in your team that can do that?
you can have personal opinions based on who you support … BUT can you argue that you wouldn't want a player in your team who can do that? Forget who he is and what he has done in his career, go to basics ..
yes prima Donna, look at me and all that comes with it, everybody wold want that prowess in their team.
take away the the tribal support for your team, and look at facts, stats, he is incredible and in years to come will be looked at as probably the best player that has ever kicked a ball.
I don't care if you love or hate him take the emotive aspects out of it, for me he is the most incredible player ever,
Appearances: 38
Starts: 34
Goals: 24
Assists: 3
in all honesty, irrespective of who you support …would you want the player in your team that can do that?
you can have personal opinions based on who you support … BUT can you argue that you wouldn't want a player in your team who can do that? Forget who he is and what he has done in his career, go to basics ..
yes prima Donna, look at me and all that comes with it, everybody wold want that prowess in their team.
take away the the tribal support for your team, and look at facts, stats, he is incredible and in years to come will be looked at as probably the best player that has ever kicked a ball.
I don't care if you love or hate him take the emotive aspects out of it, for me he is the most incredible player ever,
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The stats are undeniable but at what cost to the rest of the team. Having got shot of all our elderly statesmen that were brought in to propel us back to CL we're top of the league. Yes, we've not played anyone good yet etc etc blah blah blah but the performances are a good few levels above last season and the season before.
I agree that Ronaldo maybe not the fright fit for tactics that TH is working with, my issue is the negativity against probably oone of the best if not the best football player we have ever seen , he can still do exactly what it says on the tin..score goals
i don't care if he goes missing for 85 mins o the game, but. If he does his job, and puts the ball in the net the what's the issue ?
maybe I'm just blinded by who he is and what he has done and WHAT HE CAN STILL DO just fed up with all the negativity , come on stand back and look at the player he is we are privileged to watch him
i don't care if he goes missing for 85 mins o the game, but. If he does his job, and puts the ball in the net the what's the issue ?
maybe I'm just blinded by who he is and what he has done and WHAT HE CAN STILL DO just fed up with all the negativity , come on stand back and look at the player he is we are privileged to watch him
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Ten Hag said he could go, Glaziers said no.
Green and Gold until we're sold. Rashford was useless tonight as a number 9 a 1 legged Ronaldo would have done better. As I've said before Ronaldo is not a problem he just exposed the main problems.I think @lejackal summed up my sentiments quite well. Ronaldo is undoubtedly a great goal scorer but you have to build a team round him and he cant play high tempo pressing, like most of the best sides do now. That makes him less attractive.
I freely admit he is one of the best players we will ever see, but he is also a horrible human being. An utter attention seeking narcissist.
And Liverpool are ****ing shite.
90 mins of football against a team who barely even got near he half way line. The Forest forwards stood 10 yards inside their own half when they didn't have the ball. Saying that, I expected no less and Liverpool created **** all squared. A few chances from set pieces (VVD shud have scored) but that was it. Beating City for the second time this season, if you count the Charity Shield, and then losing to the team bottom of the league sums Liverpool's season up. They never even got near second gear.
I freely admit he is one of the best players we will ever see, but he is also a horrible human being. An utter attention seeking narcissist.
And Liverpool are ****ing shite.
90 mins of football against a team who barely even got near he half way line. The Forest forwards stood 10 yards inside their own half when they didn't have the ball. Saying that, I expected no less and Liverpool created **** all squared. A few chances from set pieces (VVD shud have scored) but that was it. Beating City for the second time this season, if you count the Charity Shield, and then losing to the team bottom of the league sums Liverpool's season up. They never even got near second gear.
I can't get past the fact the guy is being paid £400K A WEEK and he's refusing to do his job, which isn't exactly the hardest job in the world now is it? Imagine just storming off when your boss asks you to do something that you're contractually obliged to do? Pretty disgusting in the grand scheme of things and in the current climate, where normal people are on their knees. Read the room, Ronaldo!
