Think it's a mistake letting DDG go he def has 2 seasons left for UTD, outstanding world class goal keeper, we needed to keep him and spend on other Areas, but the new boss has other ideas, let's see what happens
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Yeah Kane is bloody expensive, but he would probably bang in 40 goals a season in the German pub league. I wouldn't pay more than £70 million for him. I actually think that Osimhen is worth a punt, don't Napoli want £150 million for him? 'Onana' 
(my vowel choices are appalling) is a character to say the least, he has worked with Ten Hag before though, so hopefully signing of the summer, 
I can dream. I don't think a keeper was a priority @Michael Sith not above a centre back, a holding midfielder or a striker but we have missed out on Kim Min-Jae and Rice so the goalkeeper has moved up the priority list. Ten Hag won't sign third or fourth choice players for the sake of it, he would rather wait and improve on other positions with his first or second choice.
(my vowel choices are appalling) is a character to say the least, he has worked with Ten Hag before though, so hopefully signing of the summer, I can dream. I don't think a keeper was a priority @Michael Sith not above a centre back, a holding midfielder or a striker but we have missed out on Kim Min-Jae and Rice so the goalkeeper has moved up the priority list. Ten Hag won't sign third or fourth choice players for the sake of it, he would rather wait and improve on other positions with his first or second choice.
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Yes he's unbelievable, happy with not playing for two seasons before the Euros next year. Not sure who's worse Harry or Southgate. He played more minutes for England than Man Utd last season.
Ten Hag is telling him to get lost by not playing him and taking the captain's armband off him. But apparently he still wants to stay? Absolutely terrible business from Man Utd.
Ten Hag is telling him to get lost by not playing him and taking the captain's armband off him. But apparently he still wants to stay? Absolutely terrible business from Man Utd.
I think Utd are mad keen to get rid of him but no one is dumb enough.
I would say any offer over 20m will be seriously considered. The problem is his wages and the fact he genuinely seems to think he is CL class.
Rumours of WH being interested. On loan to start. That's about his level (sorry @Cazza)and WH play a style of football that will suit him. He isn't expected to do any fancy ****. Their defenders defend. It works for them. Fair *****. I'm not sure his ego will allow him to drop from one of the biggest clubs in the country to a club he probably considers beneath him.
If he stays at Utd, that tells you all you need to know about his personality and motivation. He's 5th choice CB, and that includes a LB playing CB ahead of him.
Kane to Bayern @edd_jedi?
Looks like the Saudi's want to sign every single Liverpool midfielder. I'm gonna go get a pair of footy boots and offer my services for next yr.
I would say any offer over 20m will be seriously considered. The problem is his wages and the fact he genuinely seems to think he is CL class.
Rumours of WH being interested. On loan to start. That's about his level (sorry @Cazza)and WH play a style of football that will suit him. He isn't expected to do any fancy ****. Their defenders defend. It works for them. Fair *****. I'm not sure his ego will allow him to drop from one of the biggest clubs in the country to a club he probably considers beneath him.
If he stays at Utd, that tells you all you need to know about his personality and motivation. He's 5th choice CB, and that includes a LB playing CB ahead of him.
Kane to Bayern @edd_jedi?
Looks like the Saudi's want to sign every single Liverpool midfielder. I'm gonna go get a pair of footy boots and offer my services for next yr.
If he's got to go anywhere, I would prefer that to another PL club. I have a suspiscion he'll end up with Poch at Chelsea, at which point I'll stop watching football!
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Can't wait to hear your thoughts on this?
@weasel @theforceuk ?
Not that I think he's a bad player but seriously, Man U with a short term deal for a what, 36 year old?
@weasel @theforceuk ?
Not that I think he's a bad player but seriously, Man U with a short term deal for a what, 36 year old?
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I think he's just training, that said it will knock Maquire down to 6th choice centre back.
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Harry Maguire (and Rob Holding, before anyone thinks I'm just UTD bashing) are pretty much PL level defenders at the wrong clubs. If you're a Bolton (or current newly promoted, lump it forward and defend for your lives) team, then HM or RH are probably exactly what you need. Solid, if unspectacular, in the box and able to go up and head 1 in four that's hit toward you.
We've rejected 2.5 mil for RH (rumours) and might get (or hope to get) 5-10. UTD paid 60/70 for HM and still think he's worth 10/20. That's why (new hair aside) no one laughs at Rob but think Harry is hilarious
We've rejected 2.5 mil for RH (rumours) and might get (or hope to get) 5-10. UTD paid 60/70 for HM and still think he's worth 10/20. That's why (new hair aside) no one laughs at Rob but think Harry is hilarious
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After the last 4 years I would not describe HM as a solid defender. Agreed though he's a decent defender if you play a back 6 and a deep line against Moldova at home.
Agreed though he's a decent defender if you play a back 6 and a deep line against Moldova at home.
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Like a goalkeeper that isn't good with his feet, pretty much mid table quality these days.
@lejackal My understanding is the the Johnny Evans deal is short term, very short term. He is out of contract so he gets a few weeks pre season with Utd to get fit (and try and impress ETH to get a deal) and Utd get a solid CB to cover for the injuries they apparently have. Assuming he isn't on mega bucks it's pretty much a win win.
As for Fat Maguire, he is looking more and more like he wants to sit out his contract and collect his 200kpw wages. Rumours of Chelsea being dumb enough. They are about the only club who he would deem worthy, assuming we accept Pool, City, Arsenal aren't gonna come in for him. I agree about him being suited to a solid but unpretentious side, that's why I said WH would suit him, but I suspect his ego won't let him join a non big 6 side. Even Newcastle probably aren't big enough for him. Plus they aren't dumb enough, but you take my point.
As for Fat Maguire, he is looking more and more like he wants to sit out his contract and collect his 200kpw wages. Rumours of Chelsea being dumb enough. They are about the only club who he would deem worthy, assuming we accept Pool, City, Arsenal aren't gonna come in for him. I agree about him being suited to a solid but unpretentious side, that's why I said WH would suit him, but I suspect his ego won't let him join a non big 6 side. Even Newcastle probably aren't big enough for him. Plus they aren't dumb enough, but you take my point.
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To summarise post match (Arse vs Utd) we are currently blowing the league, crashing out of Europe and in need of a rebuild. That about covers it I think.
Oh, and #artetaout
Being slightly more serious it looked like Utd had been instructed to go in hard for every challenge. Bad enough in a competitive match, f-ing ridiculous in pre season.
Oh, and #artetaout
Being slightly more serious it looked like Utd had been instructed to go in hard for every challenge. Bad enough in a competitive match, f-ing ridiculous in pre season.
Tiz pre season, it means FA.
Though I hear Ramsdale dropped a few bollocks. If Arteta is intent on spending the GDP of a medium sized country this summer, he could do a lot worse than buying a decent keeper.
Though I hear Ramsdale dropped a few bollocks. If Arteta is intent on spending the GDP of a medium sized country this summer, he could do a lot worse than buying a decent keeper.
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Oh I know, you should see the meltdown from some fans though
Speaking of friendlies, Spurs lost to West Ham in Postecoglou's first game in charge. As you say can't read too much into a friendly, but I saw some genius critic write "Spurs will win more games than they lose if they play like that next season." Err yeah we were doing that anyway, you need to win A LOT more games than you lose to be any good!
It'll take a while for Ange (Dafuq am I learning how to spell that surname) to get his ideas across to the Spurs team, and also to get in players he wants. I would give him 18months before judging him. With the caveat that if they lose 10 on the bounce or finish second then we can make the obvious judgement.
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Season starts in August, means nothing until then. I'm annoyed at the cricket being rained off though.
Aye, as a neutral I can understand that. Fair few things have gone for the Aussies in this series. They were just a tad more street smart in the first two tests, and they employed the novel tactic of catching the ball, that's the difference. Had there been no rain over the weekend they were getting a massive hiding in that test.
Such is the way of sport though.
Such is the way of sport though.
Mbappe to Saudi then!?
I suspect there is zero chance. I hope he doesn't cos I don't want to see PSG getting 200 odd million and making a 160m profit* on him. That'll bail them out for FFP purposes and they are one club who does NOT deserve a bye ball on FFP. Chelsea are another, but Saudi seem intent on saving them.
*They signed him for about 160m and have had him for 3 or 4 yrs, so as far as their accounts, and FFP, are concerned they value him at 40m. As in his value depreciates by 40m for each yr of his contract (160/4yr contract =40m, and he has 1 yr left so he is 'worth' 40m on their balance sheet) Selling him for 200m means they make an accounting and FFP "profit" of 160m. Even at PSG that will make a huge dint in their over spending.
I suspect there is zero chance. I hope he doesn't cos I don't want to see PSG getting 200 odd million and making a 160m profit* on him. That'll bail them out for FFP purposes and they are one club who does NOT deserve a bye ball on FFP. Chelsea are another, but Saudi seem intent on saving them.
*They signed him for about 160m and have had him for 3 or 4 yrs, so as far as their accounts, and FFP, are concerned they value him at 40m. As in his value depreciates by 40m for each yr of his contract (160/4yr contract =40m, and he has 1 yr left so he is 'worth' 40m on their balance sheet) Selling him for 200m means they make an accounting and FFP "profit" of 160m. Even at PSG that will make a huge dint in their over spending.
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Hate to tell you this, but it was a West Ham XI. Mostly kids. Spurs seemed pretty much full strength. They did play well, but West Ham were very clinical. Fabs pulled off several good saves as well.
Also is it too early to call Declan Rice winning his first trophy for Arsenal on his debut in the community shield in a couple of weeks, a game they shouldn't even be playing in?! It's just so predictable...
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Cheer up Edd, your lot have just lifted the prestigious Tiger Cup
