Premier League 24/25 Thread

[weasel]

Great idea Edd, what should we call it? How about, video assistant referee?
Not sure it'll catch in though, too sensible for the FA

 

[edd_jedi]

******* Spurs honestly

 

[lejackal]

Sitting here safe in the knowledge I can be happy you've dismantled City, knowing you'll fluff your lines next time out against Barnsley under 12s or something

 

[weasel]

Even at 0-3, I was expecting City to win 5-3

 

[edd_jedi]

I would honestly have preferred we beat Ipswich 1-0 and lost today. It's the inconsistency that kills you.

 

[theforceuk]

Unbelievable jef.

 

[weasel]

Just seen MOTD, the highlight was watching poor Jordan Pickford calling for Nuergaard to be sent off after he hit his knee. The ball is played to the back post and Nuergaard is sliding in and has to go for it. In the collision Pickford's knee hits Nuergaard's boot. Cue Pickford rolling about the ground and pointing to a tiny, ie invisible, mark on his knee and calling for a card.
Up steps VAR to advise the ref to send him off.
This is the same Pickford who had no issue with coming in ridiculously late and snapping VVD's cruciate. That was just an accident apparently.

******* tosser.

Never liked, or rated him, like him even less now.

 

[theforceuk]

I saw the Leicester penalty right at the end of the game and VAR took about 3 minutes to decide. I saw it and new it was a pen after first replay, ridiculous how long they took.

 

[weasel]

See the Saints penalty today?
I've seen about a dozen replays of it and I'm still not sure where the foul took place. Robbo's foot is planted JUST outside the line (on the line being a penalty) but does the contact take place there or a split second later? His foot is planted outside the box but his body is leaning in the box so it is distinctly possibly that his foot was outside the box but the contact was further up his leg and thus inside the box. ******* tricky call for the VAR and I would say "fair enough he stuck with the on-field decision of pen" (I suspect had the ref said "no pen" VAR would have, again, seen no reason to change the decision.)


BUT……It was Michael Oliver, so we all know his decision process went, "What would Man City want? Oh yeah, Penalty."

 

[weasel]

Steve Cooper sacked. Whoever in the Leicester Board thought he was the man for them should be sacked along with him. That was never going to work.

 

[lejackal]

Steve Cooper sacked. Whoever in the Leicester Board thought he was the man for them should be sacked along with him. That was never going to work.

Yep, never going to be a good fit to follow on from marasca

 

[weasel]

I just checked the predicitions thread, I did mention him as a possibility in the first manager sacked. Something along the lines of "not sure about Cooper at Leicester." Good to know my memory isn't playing tricks on me, and he did always look a poor appointment.

 

[weasel]

Hard to make any judgements on Amorim either. A bit of a scrappy game.
He needs more than 1 game before we judge him, obviously, but sometimes you can see ideas taking shape. I guess with the Int break he probably hadnt had much time with the team.

Here's hoping he's like ETH, only worse! Lol

 

[lejackal]

He'll get a tune out of them for a few weeks, probably just long enough to be a nuisance at the Emirates and then they'll return to bog standard, mid table dross

 

[theforceuk]

Hard to make any judgements on Amorim either. A bit of a scrappy game.
He needs more than 1 game before we judge him, obviously, but sometimes you can see ideas taking shape. I guess with the Int break he probably hadnt had much time with the team.

Here's hoping he's like ETH, only worse! Lol

You can't polish a turd. Some of those players on £300k a week are a massive problem.

 

[theforceuk]

He'll get a tune out of them for a few weeks, probably just long enough to be a nuisance at the Emirates and then they'll return to bog standard, mid table dross

I doubt it, any descent team would have beaten Man Utd today. Rashford scored after 80 seconds and put his feet up for the rest of the match and was smiling at full time, he's an absolute joke.

 

[lejackal]

You can't polish a turd. Some of those players on £300k a week are a massive problem.

This is why Arteta/Arsenal were brutal with deadwood. Yes, it cost a lot financially, but show me one person that thinks it was wrong (beyond an Ozil/Auba fanboy)

 

[weasel]

Me! I liked **** Arsenal!

 

[Cazza]

Well, I didn't see that coming. We actually looked like a team and really well. Paqueta and Soler turned up for a change and Bowen was superb.

 

[weasel]

Cue you losing 5-0 on Sat now

 

[edd_jedi]

Well, I didn't see that coming. We actually looked like a team and really well. Paqueta and Soler turned up for a change and Bowen was superb.

Yes, the ONE ******* WEEK I benched Soucek in my fantasy team!

 

[lejackal]

Lampard to Coventry looks a strange one. I'd argue the Championship is even tougher than the PL to be successful, and he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory.

 

[weasel]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I have no idea why Chairmen see someone who was a great player and think they'll be good managers. It's a totally different skill set. Some can do it, Pep is an alright manager. Carlo Ancellotti has won a few trophies. But the vast vast majority are just various shades of ******* *****.

If you needed brain surgery you wouldn't employ some bloke who has had loads of lobotomies. You'd employ a ******* surgeon. So why think a player will know how to manage?

Sacking yer man Robins seemed harsh. Employing Frank is only going to get them relegated. Still, at least the Chairman can say he employs Frank Lampard

 

[Hod10]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I have no idea why Chairmen see someone who was a great player and think they'll be good managers. It's a totally different skill set. Some can do it, Pep is an alright manager. Carlo Ancellotti has won a few trophies. But the vast vast majority are just various shades of ******* *****.

If you needed brain surgery you wouldn't employ some bloke who has had loads of lobotomies. You'd employ a ******* surgeon. So why think a player will know how to manage?

Sacking yer man Robins seemed harsh. Employing Frank is only going to get them relegated. Still, at least the Chairman can say he employs Frank Lampard

Nearly all football managers played previously. If I was a player, I'd prefer a manager who had experienced playing. Throughout history, it's slim pickings finding a top quality manager who never played professionally,.. https://www.give esport.com/best-managers-never-played-professional-football-ranked/

 

[lejackal]

There's a difference between playing professionally and playing consistently at the very highest level. Wenger was a great manager, but not so good as a player. Same with Mourinho. Henry was an amazing player, as was Vieira, but as managers they are definitely not top drawer.

 

[theforceuk]

West Ham, Arsenal's game of the season!

 

[lejackal]

Giving Sporting a hiding mid week was pretty good as well.

And whilst I'd take the penalty we got for the punch, I'd feel very hard done by of the roles were reversed

 

[weasel]

Yeah, "Great" players.
Those who won PL's or played in the very latter stages of the CL.
Fergy and Klopp both played but were fairly mediocre players. Of those who have played in our time, I'm assuming most of us are mid 40's ish so ball park the PL era, 90% who were "great players" have been appalling managers.

Bryan Robson, Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce, Tony Adams, Patrick Viera, GNev, Phil Neville, Barnsey, wazza, Stevie G, Fat Frank, Sol,Campbell etc. etc.

Ps, best managers who never played professional football, and ehhh Brendan Rodgers? Really? There's a guy from Portugal who never played football, he's a better manager, he thinks he's quite 'special' too!

 

[weasel]

I saw a few complaining about a push for Arsenal's first goal. The replay I have seen, there is a push, it's not blatant, but it may well be enough to knock yer man off balance and mean he misses the ball allowing Arsenal to score.
That's the kind of borderline foul/non foul that Arsenal are very good at.

It looks like it may not have affected the outcome though.

 

[theforceuk]

Zidane is an exception, not sure he counts though as he hasn't managed anyone other than Real Madrid.