Premier League 24/25 Thread

[theforceuk]

Mentality of the players, they go a goal down and heads drop. Ridiculous, Johnny Evans was our best player on Sunday, prime Johnny Evans couldn't get in the starting 11. Fast forward 15 years and he's the only player that gets it.

 

[weasel]

That's probably a reflection of how far Utd have fallen in that time too. And I don't mean that as a cheap dig.
15years ago you were making CL finals and could claim to be one of the top four or five sides in Europe.
Now, I'm not sure you can claim to be one of the top four or five sides in the PL never mind Europe, and you have won two CL knock out games since Fergy left.

 

[lejackal]

RIP young man.

Also, dear Cardiff, take note, this is how to operate

 

[weasel]

100%

Cardiff's behaviour over the Sala deal was a ******* disgrace.

RIP George Baldock

 

[edd_jedi]

Tuchel appointed England manager, didn't see that coming!

 

[Cazza]

Really mixed feelings about this. VASTLY superior coach to Southgate or Carsley, but he's a bit of a dick and he's not English.

 

[weasel]

Steve McClaren and Fat Sam are/were English…….

I've never quite understood the preference for English (or Welsh/Scottish/Norn Irish) managers to manage their relative domestic sides. Get the best man for the job. Is Tuchel better than Southgate, or Carsley? **** yeah. Will you win anything with him? Who knows.

If he gets the draws Southgate got I would have more confidence in him winning something than Mr Safety First who had the tactical nous of a gooseberry. But….your squad is full of prima donnas and the media will jump on him in double quick time because he isn't English.
He also falls out with people inside two years, although an 18month contract and the fact you cant sign players in international football negates his room for huffing (a bit).

On more important matters, Norn Iron put five on Bulgaria. Biggest win since '95. Cue us losing to Luxembourg next month

 

[lejackal]

the media will jump on him in double quick time because he isn't English.

The daily hate mail already has

 

[weasel]

So unlike them! They normally love foreigners

 

[lejackal]

Anyway, the interlul is over. Weekend predictions anyone?

 

[theforceuk]

I don't care where the England manager was borne, but Tuchel falls out with his own shadow. Still the best appointment in a long time IMO.

 

[lejackal]

I don't care where the England manager was borne, but Tuchel falls out with his own shadow. Still the best appointment in a long time IMO.

Needs to be picking in form, best in position and best in system. Regardless of team/league they play in. They must be front footed, as well as pragmatic if defending a lead

 

[lejackal]

Oh, and on the subject of the dearth of suitable English managers, maybe it has something to do with the cost of qualifying. Circa 10k in England vs 1k in Spain

 

[lejackal]

Obviously both are a drop in the ocean to top flight ex pros, but if there's a great non league coach, how does he get the opportunity

 

[weasel]

….but Tuchel falls out with his own shadow…….

He does, but it's normally over transfers and that won't be an issue with International management. So, maybe he'll not turn into a complete prick inside 18months. Maybe.

 

[lejackal]

We can't win the league if we keep having to play with 10 men.

 

[lejackal]

Also, conspiracy time, the ******* bell sniffer on VAR is a Liverpool fan, ensuring we're without our best CB for the next match against, checks notes, Liverpool

 

[theforceuk]

VAR giving Man City the league again, unbelievable!

 

[weasel]

Also, conspiracy time, the ******* bell sniffer on VAR is a Liverpool fan, ensuring we're without our best CB for the next match against, checks notes, Liverpool

And? You make it sound like him sending off one of your centre backs just before you play a title rival that he just happens to support is a bad thing? Lol

It was a red though. Last man and dafuq is Ben White getting over. He is 12 yards away. ******* Usain Bolt would have struggled to get over and in to a position to tackle in that time.

Chelsea had one quite similar yesterday but Colwill(?) was close enough to save Tosin from a red. Very similar situations, but the proximity of the extra defender is what saved Chelsea.

I am still stumped by the over turned second Pool penalty. Sanchez might "get the ball" but he plays it straight back onto Curtis Jones, probably cos he is half a yard in front of him. Jones then megs him, probably unintentionally, and is cleaned. Surely that's a penalty? Gets the ball, loses the ball, cleans the man = penalty. Surely? What am I missing?
If it happened in the centre circle it would be a free kick all day long, so why isn't it a penalty?
I'm not moaning cos I want my team to get a penalty every time one of them falls over, I genuinely don't know why it wasn't given. The "he gets the ball" explanation doesn't make any sense to me.

@Cazza what's happened to WH? Lopetegi (spelling) out?

Ohh and much as it pains me to say it, I thought the City goal was fine. Silva isn't in his eye line and does try to get out of the way. The one Wolves had disallowed last season was slightly different and a ******* piss poor decision. City do get a ridiculous number of soft calls, but that wasn't one for me. It was just annoying that it happened in stoppage time.

 

[Cazza]

It ain't great. Did some great business in the summer, but we're all over the place. So easy to play through, it's frightening!

 

[theforceuk]

The city goal was off side for me, he's ducking when Stones heads it. If your ducking to get out of the way you're affecting the outcome.

 

[weasel]

Fair one, but he is to the keepers' right and Stones heads it from the Keepers' left. To me he isn't in the keepers' eye line and thus isn't interfering with play.

 

[theforceuk]

Don't get me wrong I would completely scrap off sides if the ball is played inside the box, but for me not interfering with play is standing there and not being involved at all. It's typical Man City they're are fully working the rules to their advantage to the extreme which the best teams always do. They did it last year and the City player was stood in front of the keeper the entire time.

In this case the City player has made the keeper fully aware he's there and moved towards where the goal is headed towards! Completely interfering IMO.

The way Pep went to the 4th official straight away was manipulative as well.

 

[weasel]

He does barge into Sa as the corner is being taken, I'll give you that. I have definitely seen them disallowed.

As for Pep, Fergy used to be famous for his watch checking, and both he and Jose had their teams surround the ref every single time a decision went against them. Also something I have seen City accused of.

 

[Cazza]

Where's Adam when you need him?

 

[edd_jedi]

Ten Haag gone, I had a feeling after yesterday's defeat that it would be coming today. There's just no excuse for the lack of improvement over the time he's had, they are clearly worse.

Oh and nice of Palace to take a game seriously for the first time this season against Spurs. What is it with teams having their cup final against us, can we not just have a nice gentle civilised game now and again!?

 

[weasel]

FOR **** SAKE WEST HAM!!!!
All you had to do was miss that very very dodgy penalty and we could all have continued to laugh at the shambles that is Utd for a week longer. But, no! You had to go and get greedy and just think if yourselves and the extra two points.

Agreed @edd_jedi, he can have no complaints. FA decent managers available, Tuchel would have been about the best, but he comes with baggage.
Still, at least Utd learnt their lessons from Jose and OGS and didn't give their under pressure manager a needless new contract in the summer. Ohh, wait…..

It'll be interesting to see who they appoint.

And @Cazza, that was NEVER EVER EVER a penalty. It was funny, albeit with a very sad tinge when it got ETH sacked.

 

[Cazza]

Completely misses the ball and kicks Ings. Foul anywhere else on the pitch. However, a clear and obvious error? Not for me. I guess it makes a slight dent in the karma we're owed by Man Utd Gordon, Salah et al have won many a penalty by deliberately putting themselves between the oppo player and the ball, but they're deemed 'clever' or 'cute'. This was similar, except Ings didn't do it deliberately.

Fernandez is an utter disgrace of a captain. Cheating, whiny... awful role model and sums up everything that's wrong with Man U. They should be done for failing to control their players- following the ref to the screen and shouting at him, while he's trying to make the decision. Surrounding him and standing on the penalty spot for minutes AFTER the decision has been made, keeper refusing to get back into his goal. 14 minutes added time. They've got away with so many ridiculous, biased decisions over the years, but the moment they get something controversial go against them, all the toys go out of the pram- so entitled. Disgraceful.

And why was that Arsenal goal disallowed?!

 

[theforceuk]

Don't know what to say really, bloody football! New coach has got a job on his hands. Amorim by the looks of it. Hopefully he can turn things around but wouldn't be surprised if he's sacked before the end of the season.

 

[Cazza]

He's an excellent coach. Was hoping for Southgate