Premier League 22/23 Thread

[weasel]

I saw something on the BBCSport app that Spurs were only the 10th side in PL to be 3 down inside ten minutes. The last was Burnley against City 10-12yrs ago. So to be 5-0 down in 20 minutes must literally be one of, if not THE, worst performance in PL history.


Rumour has it Lloris had a bust up with the Caretaker Manager at HT and refused to come out for the second half. I'll resist the obvious comment about "shoulda shown that fight on the pitch" etc. but, if that is true, it just rounds off an utterly woeful day for Spurs. Short of Harry Kane snapping his leg in half I don't know how it could have gone any worse.

Still, Anfield this Sunday, cue Liverpool's defence out doing Spurs efforts today and that diving little toe rag Kane getting a soft penalty. I would say "and getting away with 3 GBH tackles" but it's Harry Kane, that's just a normal Saturday for the England Captain.

 

[theforceuk]

Obviously watched it, Brighton a very good team didn't really think they deserved to win it any more than Man Utd. They're a brilliant attacking team with a front 4 at times that pressed the hell out of Utd. DDG made some good saves, certainly not a weakness today. With the players we had available I thought Ten Hag got his tactics bang on. Pretty impossible to pass your way out of that press. Thought the make shift back 4 did really well, we just had no bench to change the game. I mean Fred and Van Veg Hoof are hardly game changers. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that City will smash us in the final.

My 10 year old son is looking forward to his first FA Cup final that means something to him. I will be preparing him for the worst.

Spurs on Thursday will be interesting, we can pretty much end there top 4 hopes with a win. Not sure it will be straightforward though.

 

[edd_jedi]

I saw something on the BBCSport app that Spurs were only the 10th side in PL to be 3 down inside ten minutes. The last was Burnley against City 10-12yrs ago. So to be 5-0 down in 20 minutes must literally be one of, if not THE, worst performance in PL history.

I don't understand how it's even possible. Being 3-0 down at half time is a collapse. 5-0 down in 20 minutes wouldn't even happen if City were playing a league 2 side in the FA Cup. WTF!?

This could be the worst week for Spurs in living memory, United on Thursday and Liverpool on Sunday. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up in negative goal difference after these three games. Just need to write this season off and start again.

 

[edd_jedi]

Oh and can we alll finally agree that Levy is a complete fool? Firing a top manager before a cup final, and having no clue who to hire after already sacking the manager for a second time in two seasons. This is a football team, the fans don't care about the bank balance, stop focusing on NFL matches and concerts, prioritise the f***king football!

 

[theforceuk]

I wouldn't worry to much about Man Utd smacking Spurs up. Goals are not our specialty.

 

[weasel]

Oh and can we all finally agree that Levy is a complete fool?

I'm not sure that has ever been in doubt!

 

[edd_jedi]

I'm not sure that has ever been in doubt!

I see loads of Spurs fans defending him, yes it is admirable to an extent that Spurs isn't an oil club and has one of the healthiest balance sheets, but what's the point if the football suffers

 

[theforceuk]

I've never understood anyone who thinks it's a good idea for a club to make a profit without being one of the best teams in the country. Like you say @edd_jedi what is the point in having everything Spurs have but no clear plan or leadership with a winning mentality.

 

[edd_jedi]

And now they've sacked Stellini as well, back to Ryan Mason again

 

[weasel]

Ok, now that is 'laughing stock' material.

 

[lejackal]

Don't worry, Levi has spoken to the player committee

like **** would I be taking their advice

 

[theforceuk]

Chelsea still edges 'joke shop' club of the season at the moment for me. Spurs are in the hunt though.

 

[edd_jedi]

Oh God I really hope Poch doesn't go to Chelsea, I guarantee he would win the treble in his first season

 

[theforceuk]

When you say the treble, do you mean 3 games in a row? I see Man Utd have started talking to Spurs about Harry Kane.

 

[weasel]

I saw something about Utd had started to research Kane. I did wonder quite WTF they needed to research. Surely to christ everyone knows all about him!?
But then I remembered, this is Utd….

 

[theforceuk]

Yeah exactly, we're literally the only club that wants him and suits his requirements. He can still break the PL goal scoring record, tick. Not a London rival, tick. Better chance of winning something, tick. Man Utd will bend over and let him shaft us with a 6 year contract worth £350k a week, tick. All this said Man Utd will still end up paying £100 million for a 30 year old with one year left on his contract on September 30th.

 

[weasel]

I was talking to a Utd supporting mate about Harry Kane. Much as I don't like him, he is a great striker and will score you goals. Utd do need a striker, Sir can't do it all by himself. So the logic in that move is fairly clear.
But it all comes down to price. Levy is notorious for being hard to deal with and I really can't see him selling Kane for less than 100m. You might get 75-80m up front/staged payments and another 20-25 in easy add ons (wins 10 more England caps, scores 20 goals etc.) but you are effectively looking at 100m. Which is a lot of money for a 30yr old who has a lot of miles in his legs, he rarely misses games for Spurs or England, and he already has dodgy ankles.

100m will get you a guaranteed 20 odd goals a season, injury permitting, but it will come with very high wages, feck all resale value in 4 years and an ever increasing risk that he goes the way of Rooney and Owen.

I'm not sure I would take the chance, for that amount of money. But who else is there?
Your boy from Napoli, who looked properly good when Pool "played" (ie got hammered by) Napoli. But he has no PL experience. He may be great, he may be ****. He is more of a gamble.

 

[edd_jedi]

It's the same if he stays at Spurs, he's no longer a long term plan, a rebuild is needed including him, not around him

 

[weasel]

True.
Albeit that doesn't leave much of a squad/team to build round. Lloris is going down hill far too fast, your defence is pish, your midfield isn't great and Son has been piss poor this season. I guess he may revert to the form he had in the last 18months, but if he doesn't….

I'm not even gonna mention Richarlison. NO ONE outside of the Spurs Boardroom thought that was a good idea.


Who do you build round? Hoy-berg (spelling) and ehhhh….is Bentancur still there/any good?

 

[edd_jedi]

Yeah I agree, there are about 3 or 4 players I would keep, the rest need to go. Richarlison is another Alli, clearly talented but far too self obsessed to have the mindset for a top player. Son has had one bad season out of five or six so that's not immediate cause for alarm, the question is whether he can play without Kane. The funny and scary thing is that Kane is our best defender, midfielder and attacker!