As a Liverpool fan I can freely admit Suarez is a ****. If he didn't play for Liverpool I would hate him with a passion. Even now I don't feel the same pride/joy when I see him play/score for Liverpool as I do with any and every other player we have. You can call it his 'desire to win' or 'his competitive spirit' (I'm leaving the racist bit to the side, that's a 'no contest') but he goes to ground very easily and he pushes the laws of the game.
Saying that I don't see anything wrong with his celebration on Sat. Moyes basically called him a diving bastard (quite justifiably) and that was Suarez retort. Maybe not the smartest thing he's ever done but if you're going to go on record as calling someone something like that don't be surprised if they retort. And on that note I'm probably the one Liverpool who supported Gary Neville when he did his wee celebration against Pool a few years ago, and when he announced he hated scousers. I didn't support him cos I like him, far from it, I just think given most players have to take dogs abuse from opposition fans, the fans have no right to be offended when a players celebrates or says eh doesn't like them. FFS they sing worse about him every week.
As for the two games I thought that summed Liverpool's luck this season up. Perfectly good winner disallowed in injury time. No way would Everton have come back from that. Goes with the "penalty" Utd got at Anfield and the pts we bucked away against City (I think) when Skertl had one. Still, a draw was probably a fair result in what was, like most Derby's, a pretty pish game.
As for Chelsea Utd. Where were Chelsea for the first 25 mins? They had all the possession going forward but created nothing. Every time Utd attacked they looked like scoring. I actually thought Ivanovic's red was unfortunate. Yes, it's a foul and as last man he has to go, but it didn't look intentional and whilst by the letter of the law it was a correct decision, "the law is an ass".
As for Torres, now that was harsh! There was contact between him and Evans, not a lot mind, but there was definite contact, given he had already been booked Clattenburg could quite easily just have given Utd the free. Unless he was 100% sure Torres dived, which he clearly wasn't as the replays showed there was contact. Saying that Clattenburg is a serial game ruiner, he is a terrible ref and the sooner he gets retired the better. He ruined what was shaping up to be a great game!
Oh and Hernandez was off side for the winner, just to rub Chelsea's nose in it!