eBay rogues

[TwistedMetal]

its going back recorded learnt my lesson

 

[weasel]

Thread on Ebay sellers to avoid.....

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4900&start=195

If he sends stuff second class unrecorded, why not set up a second account, buy loads of stuff from him, get it sent to a different address and when it arrives unrecorded open a PP claim for item not received :wink:
Bit of a cunty thing to do but if he is knowingly selling repro ****.

 

[itfciain]

Hi Scott

Just looking at his completed listings - which was the figure that you bought ?

Iain

 

[TwistedMetal]

Hi mate I bought the hoth stormy Moc.

 

[itfciain]

Thought that might have been the one - the rest look OK to me at first glance but there is something slightly off with that one - have you got some pictures you can post up here - it's alway worth seeing these things so everyone knows what to look out for

 

[TwistedMetal]

Yes sure mate I will see if my comp will work it has been playing up, also I was going to post him before but I felt abit of a tit cause In my sale thread I said I had a stormy Moc coming up for sale, then when he came through the door I had been sucker punched again

 

[TwistedMetal]

Ok these are the only pics i took, i sent him back this morning, anyway im sure from these you can see what this low down dirty rat tryed too pull on me, the funny thing like i said, i even asked him if he could guarentee if it was fully original and factory sealed (yes i know my spelling sucks balls) lol

 

[PGowdy]

Looks ok to me. :?

 

[tiefighterboy]

Finish and matte on cardback looks correct. Bubble looks extremely case fresh....but it is not unheard of. Smooth seal on bubble is no alarm, Punch looks correct, Font looks correct and I have not seen many Hoth troopers on Jedi cards repoduced...not to say it has not occurred. What makes you think the cardback and bubble are repro?????

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Looks legit to me too :?

 

[PGowdy]

Finish and matte on cardback looks correct. Bubble looks extremely case fresh....but it is not unheard of. Smooth seal on bubble is no alarm, Punch looks correct, Font looks correct and I have not seen many Hoth troopers on Jedi cards repoduced...not to say it has not occurred. What makes you think the cardback and bubble are repro?????

Those "case-fresh" bubbles are exactly what you see from ToyToni. Much more common with the Palitoy ROTJs than the Kenner. You'll never see a Kenner bubble as clear as that plus those Palitoy bubbles often look a bit "suss". But to me this one looks 100% legit.

 

[TwistedMetal]

I just know it is guys, from having it in my hands, I kept putting it away picking it back up and every time I held it I knew something wasn't right, also didn't like the black mark on his head and also to the rear side of him, also for a stormy in this condition why only 3 bids on him? And 2 of them were from me, also when somebody claims something is 100% legit, and yet when I receive it, why didn't he fight it and say it was? He simply said sorry, look I'm no pro at this but in my views from having hands on it was fake, but anyways.

 

[Joe]

It looks legit to me as well.

At least you didn't do what Nick did once (SilverGrin) - he had two ROTJ Palitoy figures and instead of coming to check on here if they were legit, he sold them as customs for £20 each I think lol! Sorry Nick

 

[PGowdy]

Yeah, the guy is either not arguing cos he doesn't know his stuff and is taking your word for it. Or he just thinks it's better not to argue through fear of getting a neg.
Marks on the figure inside the bubble are not uncommon at all. No issue there.
Like i said before. Those Palioty ROTJs are often so different looking to their Kenner counterparts that they can look fake. The cards seem to rigid and shiny and the bubbles to clean and 'plain' looking. Here is an identical Moc to yours being sold by Toytoni. Everything is exactly the same except his is unpunched.

 

[Grant_C]

Dam!

Your right. That looks fake as well.

 

[TwistedMetal]

Tbh Pete I'm not saying your wrong atall mate, you guys no far more than I ever will, and them two mocs do look alike but I've never felt a card like that and tbh I'm glad it's out of my hands.

 

[PGowdy]

Dam!

Your right. That looks fake as well.

Exactly, and it's not. That's why i thought it needed to be posted. When i first saw those Palitoy mocs i thought they were fake too. Bubble looks funny, cards looks to clean etc.

 

[tiefighterboy]

Does the finish on the card have a way different feel to it than any other carded figure or loose it's gloss when viewed at an angle? Does the punch hole show any sign of ever having a tab punched from it? Does it appear looking at the sides and the edges that the front of the cardback and back of the cardback have been glued to the actual cardboard? Does the bubble show any signs of glue residue or double sided tape? The finish and punch are somewhat questionable to me now since Pete did a side by side comparison....but it is not a great difference.

 

[TwistedMetal]

The finish of the card was unlike any card i have bought before apart from one, which was a fake 12 back, also when i bought the fake 12 back, i looked up on some starwars info before i joined this forum, they said one of the things too look out for was the punch been slightly pushed in from the back, showing that whilst faking it and cutting the punch out, then pushing it back in to look legit, anyway this one never had the punch in and tbh looked as though it never had a real one in the first place, thats about all i can tell you since i don`t have it anymore.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[tiefighterboy]

I now think that this was a well done fake. The finish after a closer look at the pictures looks too dull and slightly washed-out. The punch also looked a little too clean and slightly larger. I think you made the right choice.