Is there a link to the RS thread?
Another VC Jawa Palitoy found
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Dark Sith Lord
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http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1101550/
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Classroom full of teachers instead of students.
Classroom full of teachers instead of students.
Nick_IoW
Sith Lord
RS threads are weird.
I've not been on the scene long - but why is it that people are reluctant with the opinions of specialist collectors, but throw themselves behind non-sensical rumours and hearsay 100% and themselves make up rediculous situations of "what if's"?
"What? those FACTS aren't real! I heard a five-legged-man made it out of playdoh! So your facts are wrong!"
Watching the debate from the outside, it is almost as if some of the folk dont wan't it to be real for one reason, or another. Some of the things I've read in that thread have just been silly. Then you have people commenting clearly without reading the whole thread.
Personally, I have no care if a general card is Palitoy of Kenner - but it seems clear that a lot across the pond think that Pali is some kind of lower class card and find it hard to comprehend the Pali line is rarer and more expensive than their Kenners.
You've all been about collecting far longer than I - so maybe can shed some light, is there a Pali-evny syndrome?
And I cant knock Vectis - seeing as the word Vectis is the Roman name for the Isle of Wight, and from what I understand originated from here, so they can only be cool
I am happy putting my trust in people who have scrutinised this card closely - hence I will be taking my own brand of crazy to the auction. This item definitely will go for a crazy price, and most likely more than it's worth. Simply because some are happy to pay whatever it takes to get it.
To me, it's worth a whole lot more just to have it in my Jawa focus.
I've not been on the scene long - but why is it that people are reluctant with the opinions of specialist collectors, but throw themselves behind non-sensical rumours and hearsay 100% and themselves make up rediculous situations of "what if's"?
"What? those FACTS aren't real! I heard a five-legged-man made it out of playdoh! So your facts are wrong!"
Watching the debate from the outside, it is almost as if some of the folk dont wan't it to be real for one reason, or another. Some of the things I've read in that thread have just been silly. Then you have people commenting clearly without reading the whole thread.
Personally, I have no care if a general card is Palitoy of Kenner - but it seems clear that a lot across the pond think that Pali is some kind of lower class card and find it hard to comprehend the Pali line is rarer and more expensive than their Kenners.
You've all been about collecting far longer than I - so maybe can shed some light, is there a Pali-evny syndrome?
And I cant knock Vectis - seeing as the word Vectis is the Roman name for the Isle of Wight, and from what I understand originated from here, so they can only be cool
I am happy putting my trust in people who have scrutinised this card closely - hence I will be taking my own brand of crazy to the auction. This item definitely will go for a crazy price, and most likely more than it's worth. Simply because some are happy to pay whatever it takes to get it.
To me, it's worth a whole lot more just to have it in my Jawa focus.
Mate- while im not into RS bashing, and meeting some of the long timers at CE2 made me realise that im missing out not being on that forum.
I do get frustrated with some of the posters, who may have 1138 posts, but are all to ready to jump on things and trash them, but then start a new thread the next day titled- 'Whats a blue snaggletooth?'.
It can be tedious.
I do get frustrated with some of the posters, who may have 1138 posts, but are all to ready to jump on things and trash them, but then start a new thread the next day titled- 'Whats a blue snaggletooth?'.
It can be tedious.
tiefighterboy
Grand Master
Maulster79 said:
Your not missing out on anything :wink:
mr_palitoy
Sith Lord
jambobbyb said:
No, as I have stated and documented repeatedly...
Jason
sith-smith
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Maulster79 said:
Don't go knocking teachers...
:wink:
tiefighterboy said:
Yeah, I am.
While I don't miss the BS, theres a lot of great people on there, who aren't on here. And we don't sell prototypes much on SWFUK.
sith-smith said:
:lol:
Ok-
To many chiefs in the kitchen, and some haven't gone to chef school.......or been trained in......France :?
tiefighterboy
Grand Master
Make a sock account. I have 10 of them :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have 10 of them :lol: :lol: :lol:Thanks Jason, while it doesn't prove or disprove the existance of the VCJ Palitoy it does prove there are more of these out there than just the examples known that haven't come from the hands of this so called legendary faker.
One of the "scammers" is Jason Joiner.
I met him last year and don't know him or the history.
He has seemed to upset quite a few collectors and im not sure why.
All I found was the selling of a Superman prop that was fake. Joiner claimed he didn't know.
Im not sure if this story is even true.
Some clarity on why people call Joiner a "scammer" and drag his name through the mud would be great.
I met him last year and don't know him or the history.
He has seemed to upset quite a few collectors and im not sure why.
All I found was the selling of a Superman prop that was fake. Joiner claimed he didn't know.
Im not sure if this story is even true.
Some clarity on why people call Joiner a "scammer" and drag his name through the mud would be great.
mr_palitoy
Sith Lord
Maulster79 said:
I only know of Jason through Showmasters and a number of the cons and Massive Events TV show tie ins that he is involved in and he's only ever come over as a nice chap in the dealings I have had with him. I think a lot of the scams happened when he was more of a star wars collector many years ago. These days he's more into props than action figures, and meeting celebs through his work.
cheers Jason
itfciain said:
:shock:
VC Paligate: Part One. The Good, The Bad and the Vinyl Cape Jawa.
Drakon
Jedi Knight
jedisearcher said:The RS thread makes depressing reading. The amount of morons reading only the most recent comments and then throwing in something that's already been answered is retarded. It took them 4 pages to agree that AFA had never said they wouldn't grade another VCJ, just that it was unlikely that another one would turn up, and then some other buffoon goes and raises it all over again ....
Clearly sending it to AFA would limit its value because of the crushing so the seller won't do it, but oh no, it's a fake, can't be graded by AFA, touch ups, it's already been graded so clearly something is amiss (yes, someone said that) etc etc ...
I don't normally swear on posts, but some of those guys are ****ing idiots.
Feel better now
Chris,
I hope that wasn't thrown in my direction.
We all know that the forum is a place for discussing topics...not to sling mud...but it can getting ****ing rowdy around here when we all start drinking and jumping in with the mob. I love this forum because it is told how it is and not much is held back. Another great point is we all share one thing in common.....Star Wars toys.
Jason,
I respect you as a collector and as a person that has a vast knowledge of Palitoy SW items. Please understand that my posts were not directed at you in a negative matter whatsoever. It was just a difference of opinion on a piece that has not been seen before (out of the UK ....small group) in the community. It is tough to swallow that another fell right out of the sky once that one was graded by AFA. Can you see if Vectis can shed some more light on this piece?
I am not sure why the piece wasn't sent to UKG but this does not discount the great job both companies do.Keep in mind that AFA has to grade the piece if they can't prove it is a fake. Do you get what I am trying to say?
Guys....I will jump in the fray here because I feel like I need to defend myself as one of the posters. I am not looking for a fight or to prove that anybody is wrong. As much as anybody else I want to believe this is true. I am just looking at this from a different direction. I have a difference of opinion. Yes I know a bit about the Torres situation and about Palitoy(not as much as Jason or Gary)
The provenance on this piece and the one that was graded is not as clear as we would like it to be. I think we are all in agreement on this. Torres is known for doing some shady ****....end of story.
There is more I can go into detail on but I see no reason. It can be read on the RS thread. I just don't want to turn this into a mud slinging match. It is good to know that we can still find great topics like this to discuss in the community.....and the while learning new things.
I do want to end this post with an invite to those that are game. In two years the next Celebration is going to be held in the states in CA....hit me up during rooms sales and let's have some ****ing beers. We can talk more about this then. You have plenty of time to plan and put money away for the Con so get with it. VIP tickets are sold out.
mr_palitoy
Sith Lord
They'll be like a dozen MOC examples by then at the rate we're going at now...
:lol:
Jason
:lol:
Jason
