rob71 said:
The thing is though, he didn't do a bad job at Everton with the players / money he had. I find it hard to believe that he would go from being a half decent to a totally inept manager as soon as he goes to Man U... it's as if he's suddenly believed the media etc saying he's completely out of his depth and totally lost the plot.
You're right and you're wrong, IMO.
Moyesy did very well at Everton. I think he did a superb job of making a team that could compete against the biggest sides in the league on a budget of whatever Bill Kenwright found down the side of the sofa. BUT, and here's where I think you're wrong, that is very different to managing Man Utd (self proclaimed "biggest club in the world"). Building a team that is hard to beat and that is/was very attritional (and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way) is totally different to running a club full of superstars and players who have won everything going. Utd are also a club that have over the years, much as it pains me to say it, played some very attractive football. So the fan want/expect to be entertained.
Moyes is effectively having to deal with players whose motivation is totally different to those that he's used to. At Everton I suspect there was, with the greatest respect, a degree of "if you play well you'll get a move to a 'bigger' club" where as that isn't the case with Utd. There are only a handful of bigger clubs than Utd, and even that is debatable. The Utd players are on £100K+ they have already made it (in footballing terms). I don't think Moyes has quite figured out how to inspire them week in week out.
That's not to say they are blameless, the lack of fight on Sunday (well, all season really) has been glaringly obvious. Some of those players should be ashamed to collect any salary at all. I also suspect there is a degree of taking the foot off the gas now Fergy is away. Again though, Moyes needs to stamp that out. Drop a big name player if he is under performing and be public about why you did it. Don't reward your under-performing, "i love utd, i wanna leave, i love utd, i wanna leave" centre forward with a £300K a week salary!
A lot has gone wrong at Utd since Fergy left. Not all of it Moyes fault, but he has made, and continues to make, a lot of very very poor decisions.
If you disagree that he's out of his depth, watch ANY of his pre/post match interviews this season. Then watch any of Fergy's from the last 10 years. Hell, watch some of Wenger's, Mourinho's, or Rafa's! Compare and contrast!
