Premier League 2020/2021 Thread
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Man Utd have got 25 points from losing positions this season, says a lot. Penalty against Brighton after the final whistle had gone to win 2-3, Southampton and West Ham away were 6 more lucky points. I think no fans has affected teams differently, Man Utd going a year unbeaten away would not have happened with fans in the ground's and they wouldn't get away with playing a back 6 at Old Trafford with fans in the stadium.
Take the Liverpool vs Real Madrid game at Anfield next week, I would fancy Liverpool to turn that around with a full Anfield, doubt they will with an empty stadium.
Take the Liverpool vs Real Madrid game at Anfield next week, I would fancy Liverpool to turn that around with a full Anfield, doubt they will with an empty stadium.
theforceuk said:
Yeah, no fans and ehh no home wins, so far, in 2021. I wouldn't out much money on Pool winning that one by enough to get through, shame as i despise Real as a club.
As for that Utd win against WH, the goal that came from DDG booting it 10 yards off he pitch and the lino being retarded.....that could actually end up costing WH CL footy. I know the game would have been totally different it that was, correctly, disallowed. Utd wud have attacked more etc, but it just shows how tight the league is and how one decision can have massive financial repercussions
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What a great afternoon of football. Important win beating Leicester and another three points for the Hammers. And Spurs lost, got taken apart by Man U in the 2nd half. We've got a good chance of top four now I reckon looking at the remaining games 
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I can see Arsenal winning the Europa League and steeling the 4th place champions league spot. Would be funny if Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool missed out though. Really can't see it. Still think Liverpool and Chelsea will do it.
Robstyley said:What a great afternoon of football. Important win beating Leicester and another three points for the Hammers. And Spurs lost, got taken apart by Man U in the 2nd half. We've got a good chance of top four now I reckon looking at the remaining games
Depends who you support :lol: It is a game of luck sometimes, every single result went against Spurs this weekend. Great weekend for the Hammers as you say, that CL spot is yours for the taking now.
Big problems for us, that's 20 points dropped from winning positions. If we played this 'park the bus' football everybody claims we do, that would put us clear second and five points behind City. The reality is no matter who Jose puts at the back, we can't keep goals out despite scoring plenty.
I'm confused by the uproar around Son yesterday too, the United player clearly poked him in the face, and accident or not, it was a foul! The fact a goal happened to go in afterwards is irrelevant, it would have been a penalty for us at the other end of the pitch.
Despite Spurs taking the brunt of the abuse this weekend, the stats still show this is a shocking PL season. City, West Ham, Chelsea and Liverpool have won three out of five. Leicester, Everton, Arsenal and Spurs have won two out of five. None of those are CL form, it's just a case of who is least bad. Hopefully we start seeing a bit of quality again next season when the fans return.
theforceuk said:
EL is an additional CL spot, so it has no bearing on the race for 4th.
edd_jedi said:
Really?
That's NEVER a foul for me, and I am far far from being a Utd fan. Yes, there is (or looks to be) contact, but ehhh it's a contact sport. Son tries to grab McTomminay and he goes to hand him off. Happens a hundred times a game. Just cos Son falls over holding his face it's a foul? If he handed him off on his forehead and Son didn't fall over, is it still a foul!?
For me that epitomises what's wrong with football and VAR in particular. Man the **** up Son and everyone plays on. Anyone who thinks that is a foul (Spurs fans aside) is turning football into ballet.
That was another shocking weekend for VAR. Between the two goals, for Wolves and Pool, disallowed for a millimetre of someone's arm appearing to be offside (surely when it is that close the fact you can't be 100% sure when the ball leaves someone's foot and the fact cameras aren't super mega ultra high definition, means the margin of error must be a lot more than the off or on-side you are giving!? Either way, it needs scrapped or majorly over hauled), the non penalty for Newcastle when the Burnley boy boots the ball and the Newcastle player heads it (pretty sure Mane got a red card for that a few yrs ago against City and I said then I didn't mind if there was consistency but I knew there wouldn't be, since then, ehhh I don't think anyone else has been sent off for it. Indeed the Burnley boy wasn't even penalised. Yes, Mane booted him in the face and it was a red. But there was no intent and he was looking at the ball, there was no intent from the Burnley boy and he was looking at the ball too. Thus is it only a red if you bust someone? Why then do players get sent off for "Leg breakers" that ehhh don't break a players leg? "Intent" is irrelevant. It's the inconsistency that bugs.)
Then we get the disallowed Utd goal. Which is just a nonsense.
Either VAR/the people operating it is scrapped/trained properly, or football will find fans leaving in droves.
I can't remember a single change that has been a bad for the game.
Almost every fan I know thinks VAR needs scrapped or reformed. The best anyone says is that the people operating it are the problem. Regardless, it is almost universally unpopular. The football authorities have really ****ed this one up.
Robstyley said:What a great afternoon of football. Important win beating Leicester and another three points for the Hammers. And Spurs lost, got taken apart by Man U in the 2nd half. We've got a good chance of top four now I reckon looking at the remaining games
What's WH's run in like? From memory Pool and Spurs, or was it Chelsea, have the "best" run ins. It's gonna be close that's for sure.
Jessie lingard, can't get a game at Utd, cos when he does he is turd, he goes to WH and scores 8 in 9. That's one hell of a turn around.
What odds he ends up at WH permanently next yr along with 30-40m and Declan Rice goes to Utd!?
Utd dont really need another deep midfielder, but since when did logic come into Utd's transfers!?
I agree there's inconsistency, but I don't see how you can say poking someone in the eye is not a foul, even in a contact sport. He clearly moves his arm 'unnaturally', eg it was not just the mechanics of his running, there was a deliberate attempt to block Son with his arm, and it ended up in his face. The broken leg analogy is a good one, no player (well few) mean to break someones leg, but that doesn't mean it's not a foul. Dangerous play is often accidental.
But the McTominay non foul is the kinda thing you see a hundred times a game, and they are never punished. Plus it is in response to Son trying to grab him. Son doesn't try and hold him back and McTominay has no reason to try and push him away.
Just not a foul for me.
I assume you saw the news that Jose wants Fellaini at Spurs!? That is right up there with paying 50m for Andy Carroll, or 40m for Van Der Beek and not playing him.
Just not a foul for me.
I assume you saw the news that Jose wants Fellaini at Spurs!? That is right up there with paying 50m for Andy Carroll, or 40m for Van Der Beek and not playing him.
Run ins:
Leicester: West Brom, Palace, Southampton, Newcastle, Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs
West Ham: Newcastle, Chelsea, Burnley, Everton, Brighton, West Brom, Southampton
Chelsea: Brighton, West Ham, Fulham, City, Arsenal, Leicester, Villa
Liverpool: Leeds, Newcastle, Man Utd, Southampton, West Brom, Burnley, Palace
Spurs: Everton, Southampton, Sheffield Utd, Leeds, Wolves, Villa, Leicester
Much of a muchness I would say, Leicester probably have the toughest end to the season. Still some good games coming up and I think any of the top 8 could still qualify for the CL.
Leicester: West Brom, Palace, Southampton, Newcastle, Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs
West Ham: Newcastle, Chelsea, Burnley, Everton, Brighton, West Brom, Southampton
Chelsea: Brighton, West Ham, Fulham, City, Arsenal, Leicester, Villa
Liverpool: Leeds, Newcastle, Man Utd, Southampton, West Brom, Burnley, Palace
Spurs: Everton, Southampton, Sheffield Utd, Leeds, Wolves, Villa, Leicester
Much of a muchness I would say, Leicester probably have the toughest end to the season. Still some good games coming up and I think any of the top 8 could still qualify for the CL.
edd_jedi said:
I think Pool's is pretty good. A lot of sides who have FA to play for. Not fighting for CL/EL (or Man City who have CL in the bag already) and not fighting to stay up. The relegation fight is all but over. The bottom three, well WBA&Fulham SU are gone, need a miracle run that just won't happen. Fulham have 6 games and a need at least four wins, they have some tough sides to play.
It's gonna be very tight for CL though.
edd_jedi said:
Yeah, I don't quite get what he hoped to achieve. It's more something I would expect from Jose or Fergy to distract from a defeat for their side.
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[mention]weasel[/mention] Yes sorry I read an article that talked about Arsenal winning the Europa League and Liverpool or Chelsea winning the Champions League and finishing outside the top 4, then 4th spot would not qualify.
I don't no what the fuss is about either, McTominay new exactly what he was doing and should have been sen off.
I don't no what the fuss is about either, McTominay new exactly what he was doing and should have been sen off.
theforceuk said:
Aye, the limit is 5 places per country. So if your clubs win EL and CL AND both finish outside the top four then the 4th spot available from the league is lost and the top 3 plus CL and EL winners get in. The latter two plus PL winner would all be seeded in Pool 1 as well.
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weasel said:
I don't no, Real Madrid are supposed to be in a crisis and they are still on for a league and champions league double and PSG are desperate to win it. I'm hoping any way! lol
Real are poor, by Real's standards.
Very similar to the current Utd team. Neither are a "bad" side, but neither stand up when compared with the teams their clubs have had in the last 10-15 yrs.
PSG are great going forward but the play in a league where you can play in second gear and win easily most weeks. Force them to play in 5th gear and they can't do it for 90mins. If you can take advantage of their lapses in concentration when they slip back into 3rd, they are beatable.
They do have a world class forward line though, but for this stage of the CL they are not to be feared.
Very similar to the current Utd team. Neither are a "bad" side, but neither stand up when compared with the teams their clubs have had in the last 10-15 yrs.
PSG are great going forward but the play in a league where you can play in second gear and win easily most weeks. Force them to play in 5th gear and they can't do it for 90mins. If you can take advantage of their lapses in concentration when they slip back into 3rd, they are beatable.
They do have a world class forward line though, but for this stage of the CL they are not to be feared.
It's funny how Jose can lose a game 4-3 and be called 'park the bus outdated football', yet last night Real literally had 10 men in their penalty box at all times, they didn't even try to score once, yet are praised for their 'resilliance' and 'winning mentality' by the commentators. I swear half the people who talk about football don't even watch it.
It would be so typical for PSG to win the CL. Jose is having his worst season ever at Spurs, breaking every negative record. Then Poch wins the CL in his first season away from Spurs. The joys of supporting this team :lol:
It would be so typical for PSG to win the CL. Jose is having his worst season ever at Spurs, breaking every negative record. Then Poch wins the CL in his first season away from Spurs. The joys of supporting this team :lol:
