PL 2015-16 Chat

[SAVORY100]

I know as a Spurs fan I should be gutted, but actually as its Leicester, it weirdly feels fine...
Agree with Edd that there is a real fear the wheels could come off proper now and Spurs, with no hope of coming top collapse in spectacular style and could end up 4th hoping for a Liverpool loss.. seems a ridiculous notion, but then so does the idea of Leicester being champions of England!

 

[itfciain]

I had money of Spurs winning as I honestly thought Leicester would fall away but they just kept grinding out the results. Last night was a big one for Spurs - they bossed the first half and should have won

I think if they'd have done so then it would have been a lot closer as it could easily have been down to two points after next weekends games.

Still like the rest, I am happy that they will win it - for me it is great for English football and great for the Premiership - shows that an unfancied team can still put a winnings squad together

 

[edd_jedi]

Apparently Alli is out for 3 games for punching a West Brom player on Monday? I watched the game and didn't see it. Oh well that's definitely game over then

 

[weasel]

Apparently Alli is out for 3 games for punching a West Brom player on Monday? I watched the game and didn't see it.

You and me both. From what I've heard he definitely did it, there is video footage so he's fooked. 3 game ban it is.

 

[theforceuk]

I've seen it cheeky little jab to the stomach, at least he'll be fit for England. :lol:

Vardys out of the Man Utd game as well isn't he?

 

[edd_jedi]

Shame, he's definitely hot headed, has got in a few scuffles before. Hope he grows out of it quickly. Amazing that both him and Vardy, arguably two of the most important players in the league right now, have done something so silly at this critical stage of the season.

 

[edd_jedi]

Well somebody may as well say it... It's all over! :lol:

As a Spurs fan I'm obviously gutted, but as I said last year after the first few winless games Spurs blew it long before last night. You don't win a title by beating the champions away from home with two games left, you win it by beating the **** teams at the start of the season. And Spurs failed to do that. Too little too late.

Genuinely happy for Leicester, I think it's a shame they won the league by another team not winning, would have been much better to see them beat Utd last weekend or Everton this weekend. Although they have deserved it, I'd like to think their fans are modest enough to realise this season wasn't just about their success, it was just as much dictated by the abysmal form of Chelsea, City and to an extent Utd and Arsenal. If any of the previous three years champions had shown any kind of form, it would have been a very different season (and that goes for Spurs too - as you may remember I didn't think they would make top four.)

Can they do it again next year? Depends if the changes at Chelsea and City have any impact.

 

[SAVORY100]

I look at it with (quite) a few thoughts really...

Congratulations to Leicester, they may not have been the best team, but were without doubt the most consistant and on that basis, they are well deserved champions. I'm disapointed as a Spurs fan to not win, of course I am, but oddly (most people don't get it and have tried to wind me up), I'm really pleased Leicester did win, it is at the very least a new name, at the most a fairytale come true.

- Will Leicester be found out in Europe? ... probably, their way of playing isn't likely IMO going to suit winning European games.
- Will they win (or challenge for) the title next year? ... unlikley, they'll have much better prepared teams waiting for them.. the tail of the season started to show that and more to come I'm sure.
- Was the Spurs coming second story almost a fairytale too.. well it would have been if Leicester didn't win it, but suddenly as mid table/Europa team against Leicester, Spurs were classed as a giant.. despite it being 55 years since they topped the table, love the media's lack of recognition for that point...
- Fearful that Spurs will now fall to 4th at best? ... yep, more worried about that than I was about winning the league, sadly one was always more likely than the other in my pessimistic head!
- Disgusted by the pathetic fighting and palying collapse of the second half last night? ... yep
- Is a draw away at the champions a failure? ... not really, despite their shocking form, its not one at tehg start of the seaon many (any) teams/fans or manager wouyld have written three points alongside.
- Happy to be put of of the misery of when will Spurs have no more time to catch them? .... more than you can imagine! :lol:

 

[edd_jedi]

- Was the Spurs coming second story almost a fairytale too.. well it would have been if Leicester didn't win it, but suddenly as mid table/Europa team against Leicester, Spurs were classed as a giant.. despite it being 55 years since they topped the table, love the media's lack of recognition for that point...

Yep this pisses me off too. Not just the media, all the dickhead sour Arsenal and Chelsea fans too (which Facebook is full of.) Despite both of the above having huge success over the last decade (or slightly longer ago in Arsenal's case) neither could stand the thought of London's undrerdog team Spurs doing well. Spurs have succeeded for exactly the same reason Leicester have - young players and hard work.

- Fearful that Spurs will now fall to 4th at best? ... yep, more worried about that than I was about winning the league, sadly one was always more likely than the other in my pessimistic head!

Agreed I still don't think second is in the bag, all really depends on the Arsenal/City game this weekend.

 

[weasel]

Aye, fair play to Leicester, they deserve that title and what a fairy tale it is.
Yeah, their maximum points total wouldn't have won the title in any of the past 4 years, but that doesn't mean ****. The history books don't say "got lucky when everyone else was ****" they just say "Champions".
I do feel for Spurs, had it not been for Leicester, I'd have loved them to win it. Assuming Liverpool didn't, obviously. They have a good young team with a very good manager. I thought they'd struggle with only Kane as a recognised striker, but they didn't. It would have been interesting to see how they coped if he was out for a few months but anyway. Maybe Daniel Levy will spend a few quid on a decent back up striker in the summer. Ie, not yer man Son. He's ok, solid squad player, no more.

The last 15-20 mins of that game last night were brilliant viewing, from a masochistic point of view. Two teams with zero interest in playing football, both just wanting to bust the other team and or get them sent off. Great entertainment, but a piss poor advertisement for the PL. Especially as it was two of it's "bigger" sides.
I hope Pochetino is giving Dembele a ****ing boot in the hole today. WTF that muppet was thinking when he tried to gouge Coasta's eye I'll never know. Yes, costa is a ****, but don't do something that they are going to catch on camera that will result in you getting banned and your team having to finish the season without it's two central midfielders. Idiot.

I felt sorry Clattenburg trying to referee that game last night. Had I been in his shoes there would have been 4 players left on the pitch at full time. Walker, Dier and a few others were bloody lucky not to see red. As soon as players crowd round the ref, as Chelsea seem to do 6 times a game, it should be a yellow for each and everyone of them. First time half a dozen players get booked in one go will be the last time players crowd the ref. It's as simple as that. Ditto for waving an imaginary card. "What's that? You want a card? Here you go, here's a yellow for you. Now **** off and do your job playing the game and leave me to referee."

On another note, **** or bust on Thursday now Jurgen! What's that saying about all your eggs?

Ohh and Kolorov.............

https://twitter.com/YourMCFC/status/727041142668283906

Now THAT is not giving a ****. Don't think we'll see him at City next year,

 

[edd_jedi]

Yeah it wasn't far off a Royal Rumble! Walker is a liability, he started it all IMO with a few stupid challenges. If he'd been subbed at half time, I don't think it would have all kicked off. He's done it in games before too. I think a new right back wouldn't be the worst investment for Spurs over the summer.

Agree about Son, don't rate him at all. For every goal he scores, there are five he should have scored. He looks like he has no idea what he's doing whenever he has the ball, unlike Dembele or Alli. He's not as **** as Soldado who managed to be in the wrong place most of the time, but he's not great.

 

[theforceuk]

Yeah congratulations to Leicester what a story and agree on the points thing doesn't matter how many you win it with no one else has been as good as them at getting results. I to wanted Spurs to win it but just new last night when Chelsea scored the first that was it.

Not sure I liked how Chelasa whent about it at the end running the ball into the corners, they need to finish as high as possible so why weren't they going for 3 points? Also celebrating like they had won the league not Leicester!

 

[edd_jedi]

Not sure I liked how Chelasa whent about it at the end running the ball into the corners, they need to finish as high as possible so why weren't they going for 3 points? Also celebrating like they had won the league not Leicester!

Yep exactly, nothing but sour grapes. I'd expect that pathetic behaviour from Arsenal, but since when have Spurs and Chelsea been rivals!?

 

[weasel]

That sums Chelsea, as a club, up. Thoroughly dislikeable.

Now we have Chelsea mark 2 in the shape of Atletico in the CL final. If Real (THE most dislikeable club in the world, putting aside local rivalries and my dislike for a certain club in Old Trafford) beat City tonight there's no danger of me watching the final. A bunch of poncey/cunty over paid prima donnas with the biggest narcissist in world football in their team, playing for club who think nothing of tapping up anyone they want and who "sell" their training ground to the local Council only to buy it back for 200million Yo-yos less, against Atletico and their horrible brand of Mourinho-esque football. I'd actually rather watch interference. Genuinely.

 

[weasel]

Well done City. How NOT to make a CL final, have no shots on target in 90 mins!
It doesn't take a genius to work out if you don't attack never mind shoot YOU AINT GOING TO ****ING SCORE!

In the 93rd minute, with 90 seconds left to get the 1 goal they needed to make the final they still had 4 defenders at the back playing sideways passes and rolling it into and getting it back from the midfield. Genius absolute genius!
I don't like long ball football, but with 90 seconds left of a CL semi final, one of those defenders shud have been subbed for Bony (assuming he was even on the bench) or at the least he should have been sent up front to make life difficult for the other teams CB's. There is a time and a place for Fat Sam style football, 90 seconds to go in a CL semi final and one goal needed for progress IS THAT ****ING TIME! Instead they played lovely square passes on the half way line. How exactly is that gonna win you a game?

Not so much out with a wimper as out without even trying. In the biggest game in your clubs history! Pathetic.

 

[theforceuk]

I was happy to see City whimper out last night and agree the whole night seem to be a none event for them. I have to disagree on the Athletico Madrid view though. Ok they play a similar style to Leicester and like Leicester they have small resources compared to all the teams they are competing with but most importantly for me they know how to defend, only conceaded 16 goals in the league.

I suppose what would have been the final that was best for football would have been Barcelona, Buyern Munich but Athletico found a way to knock them both out, you have to give them some credit. Problem is now Real Madrid will probably beat them in the final.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Athletico Madrids possible achievements will eclipse Leicester's it's not the same, but their are comparisons considering Athletico have reached two CL finals in 3 years and won a league title. I think of it a bit like Everton doing the same.

 

[weasel]

Not sure if the Leicester comparison is in reply to one of my comments. I compared them to Chelsea under Mourinho. No arguments they can defend, I just find their brand of football, the niggling fouls, the time wasting, the attritional nature of it, mind numbingly boring and incredibly frustrating to watch. I won't be watching the CL final cos I hate both clubs. Atletico just cos of their current style of play. Real cos they are a hateful bunch of tossers. I want them both to lose.

What about Pool last night? I missed most of it, sadly, but it sounds like a great performance. One game away from Alberto Moreno "playing" in the CL. Now that's a scary thought.

 

[theforceuk]

No nothing to do with your Leicester comments I was just mindfull of my own comments on Leicester last week on how I don't think they play a good brand of football and I would be contradicting myself by saying Athletico winning the CL is a good thing.

Thing for me is when Athletico play sides like Barcelona they have to play to their own strengths otherwise they will get destroyed. The two finals Utd played against Barcelona they tried to match them in the attacking department and got destroyed but in the 2008 semi final Man Utd played like Athletico and won 1-0 over two legs. Now for me as a supporter the semi final was much more entertaining than the two finals because we won!

Yeah you have to hand it to Klopp and Liverpool in general don't no what it is about that club but they have a romance with European football which is hard to explain. CL qualification is the main thing out of that trophie, although it's what football is all about for me winning trophies and a great night for the fans. Liverpool seem to be able to do both play attacking football and win, although would like to see them play that way against one of the big boys. It's where Klopp came unstuck at Dortmund, got to the CL final and lost heavily.

 

[edd_jedi]

Yeah I didn't watch the City game but from what I've heard it was surreal, why would you not even bother trying? It's not like a league match where conceding 5 goals could have consequences, if you're in a cup game you have to throw caution to the wind and go for it. That's why they're often better matches to watch. Congrats to Liverpool, didn't watch it but great result.

Predictions for Sunday? Spurs either need to win themselves or for Arsenal to lose to guarantee second (well, unless City score 10 goals in two games which isn't out of the question!) But I actually think it will go to the last match, it's not Spurs's style to do things comfortably (how hard are they kicking themselves about that West Brom draw right now.) So I reckon a draw with Southampton and Arsenal will win.

With Liverpool fairly likely to get in to the CL via Europa, what does that mean for 4th?

 

[Cazza]

Got a feeling that 4th spot would effectively be given to Liverpool, should they win the Europa. Would be seriously gutted if we actually managed to bag 4th, only for that to happen!