monkey_roo
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^ ha! indeed! only there are significant threads of the film that have nothing to do with the book 
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grinchy
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I love films, just finished watching the hobbit on blu ray, love it, hope to see the next movie this week sometime, also watched bridgeon the river kwai, a classic movie which looks great on blu, as well as adywans version of star wars, a brilliant fan edit of the movie,
lastly for this week i watched dances with wolves, not everyones cup of tea but i like it and an ace soundtrack
lastly for this week i watched dances with wolves, not everyones cup of tea but i like it and an ace soundtrack
monkey_roo said:^ ha! indeed! only there are significant threads of the film that have nothing to do with the book
True. I think a fair bit they padded out from the appendices/appendixes. Tho Legolas and his bird make no appearance in the book. No idea why they felt they needed him in it, or why he needed a bird.
weasel said:monkey_roo said:^ ha! indeed! only there are significant threads of the film that have nothing to do with the book
True. I think a fair bit they padded out from the appendices/appendixes. Tho Legolas and his bird make no appearance in the book. No idea why they felt they needed him in it, or why he needed a bird.
Jackson using directorial privelage, which has credible logic, showing once again he is a fan of the books and as such would have reasoning behind the inclusion of Legolas
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/legolas-is-the-thread-between-lord-of-the-rings-and-the-hobbit/
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Hobbit is fantastic, has always been my fav book of all time.
The first instalment is fantastic can't wait to see the next one
Bridge is a classic, fantastic film
I thought Costner was great in Dances With Wolves, in a similar vein ( not as good as ) a Dustin Hoffman Film called Little Big Man...if you havnt seen that I would advise to watch it...great film
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The inclusion of Legolas and the creation of Tauriel are quite the master stroke.
I don't want to give anything away but both are very relevant to the story Jackson is telling and also allow for deeper connections to what he has already done.
I don't want to give anything away but both are very relevant to the story Jackson is telling and also allow for deeper connections to what he has already done.
The wonderful world of Tolkeins creation...genius 8)
Hmmmm.
I despise directors who decide to re-write or "improve" (ie ruin) stories that have been successful books. The list of altered scripts that have benefitted from the (unwarranted) re-write is minute. In fact I'm struggling to think of ONE!
I am legend and World War Z are two that instantly spring to mind as having been ruined by Hollywood directors ******* about with them.
If the Titanic had been a story in a book and had been made for the first time now, I'd put a lot of money on the two main characters surviving.
Why **** about with things? Is it impossible to tell the story as it was? It's popular cos it's a good story, you're onto a winner, don't **** about with it!
Now you've started me on Hollywood re-writing the history of the Second World War. Oh look the American's captured the Enigma machine in 1941 (in U157)! Ehh NO! They didn't! The British captured it in 1941, when they were fighting on their own cos America was sitting at home deciding what to do while eating Pumpkin pie!
Hitler dies in a Paris Cinema in 1944 (Inglorious basterds)? Sorry, no! Would have been nice if he had, god knows how many millions of people would have survived the war, but it didn't happen like that. Those millions died, and changing it to make it look like a load of Yanks managed it some how is little other than an insult to the dead.
Sorry, rant over.
I just despite the re-writing of great books or stories to suit Hollywood's agenda. Leave it alone! If you wanna write a great story, how about trying something NEW and, here's a new word for Hollywood....ORIGINAL! Something other than Superman 57 the re-re-reboot or yet another comic book movie!
Will let you know what I think of the Hobbit and Legolas being in it, but as you might have guessed, I'm not a fan of what Jackson has done.
I despise directors who decide to re-write or "improve" (ie ruin) stories that have been successful books. The list of altered scripts that have benefitted from the (unwarranted) re-write is minute. In fact I'm struggling to think of ONE!
I am legend and World War Z are two that instantly spring to mind as having been ruined by Hollywood directors ******* about with them.
If the Titanic had been a story in a book and had been made for the first time now, I'd put a lot of money on the two main characters surviving.
Why **** about with things? Is it impossible to tell the story as it was? It's popular cos it's a good story, you're onto a winner, don't **** about with it!
Now you've started me on Hollywood re-writing the history of the Second World War. Oh look the American's captured the Enigma machine in 1941 (in U157)! Ehh NO! They didn't! The British captured it in 1941, when they were fighting on their own cos America was sitting at home deciding what to do while eating Pumpkin pie!
Hitler dies in a Paris Cinema in 1944 (Inglorious basterds)? Sorry, no! Would have been nice if he had, god knows how many millions of people would have survived the war, but it didn't happen like that. Those millions died, and changing it to make it look like a load of Yanks managed it some how is little other than an insult to the dead.
Sorry, rant over.
I just despite the re-writing of great books or stories to suit Hollywood's agenda. Leave it alone! If you wanna write a great story, how about trying something NEW and, here's a new word for Hollywood....ORIGINAL! Something other than Superman 57 the re-re-reboot or yet another comic book movie!
Will let you know what I think of the Hobbit and Legolas being in it, but as you might have guessed, I'm not a fan of what Jackson has done.
Totally get what your saying bud, and agree in principle, rewrites, and unnecessary inclusions, but then we had omissions previously, for example Tom Bombadil.
Legolas father, Thranduil the king Is included in line with the books, so in a way it would be harder to explain legolas not being there than his inclusion.
Also serves to accomplish the link of legolas aversion to Dwarves, into the LOTR story and the relationship change toward Gimli
So all in all I think it works for me
Having said all that, the decision to provide this offering as a Trilogy, at least gives more for the filmgoer to watch, and needed threading to do this, so I fully understand both sides of the argument, for me, personally I am fine with it, but as always need to watch the film first
Legolas father, Thranduil the king Is included in line with the books, so in a way it would be harder to explain legolas not being there than his inclusion.
Also serves to accomplish the link of legolas aversion to Dwarves, into the LOTR story and the relationship change toward Gimli
So all in all I think it works for me
Having said all that, the decision to provide this offering as a Trilogy, at least gives more for the filmgoer to watch, and needed threading to do this, so I fully understand both sides of the argument, for me, personally I am fine with it, but as always need to watch the film first
Not sure how to rate that.
Very good film, great non stop action, no boring songs or any of that crap. On that level brilliant film, if you like the other hobbit/LOTR's you'll like this one. The ending is a bit crap, but then it's always going to be when you make one book into three films. Still not sure it needed Legolas and his bird (who would get it, all day long). If you didn't know they weren't in the book you wouldn't guess, but i'm still not convinced they needed to do it.
All in, great film, well worth a watch, you won't be disappointed. Though i still maintain it would have been as good without Jackson ******* with it.
Very good film, great non stop action, no boring songs or any of that crap. On that level brilliant film, if you like the other hobbit/LOTR's you'll like this one. The ending is a bit crap, but then it's always going to be when you make one book into three films. Still not sure it needed Legolas and his bird (who would get it, all day long). If you didn't know they weren't in the book you wouldn't guess, but i'm still not convinced they needed to do it.
All in, great film, well worth a watch, you won't be disappointed. Though i still maintain it would have been as good without Jackson ******* with it.
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Watched Percy Jackson and the sea of monsters last night. Enjoyable enough but very played down, I thought the first was better. I think watching any fantasy genre film after the hobbit was always going to be a bad option. The film played out as simple and one dimensional without any sense of danger etc. all very nice to watch but somehow forgettable, a third film is due out in 18 months and I hope they just increase the complexity a bit and not just play for action sequences.
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Went to see the hobbit yesterday and throught it was very good indeed. All action and nowhere near as slow as the last one. A strong 9 out of 10 imo
grinchy
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Watched the sequal, thought it was really good, only thing that bugs me about this and the first hobbit is the use of cg orcs, the main orc bad guy azog, just looks of to me, the scaring on his boddy looks painted on, to much of a highlight on the wounds, i'd have prefered more practical effects, but thats the makeup fx guy in me.
Storywise it left you wanting more which is great, bad we to wait another year to see what happens next, roll on the extended edition
Storywise it left you wanting more which is great, bad we to wait another year to see what happens next, roll on the extended edition
Stormtrooper37
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Saw second installment of the Hobbit on Saturday, I actually found it quite boring in parts way too long and drawn out, I actually couldn't wait for it to end :!:
6/10
Conclusion THE BOOK IS FAR BETTER, IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT :|
6/10
Conclusion THE BOOK IS FAR BETTER, IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT :|
I've said it before, give the French film "Tell No One" a go.
Written by the excellent American author Harlan Coben. It was the first Coben book i read. I now own 23 of his titles.
The book was going to be turned into a Holywood movie but Coben didn't like what they wanted to d with it so he told them what to do with themselves.
It one several awards (French) and is a thrilling film you can watch with your chick or with a group of lads. I've done both.
Go on, promise yourself you'll look for it.
Written by the excellent American author Harlan Coben. It was the first Coben book i read. I now own 23 of his titles.
The book was going to be turned into a Holywood movie but Coben didn't like what they wanted to d with it so he told them what to do with themselves.
It one several awards (French) and is a thrilling film you can watch with your chick or with a group of lads. I've done both.
Go on, promise yourself you'll look for it.
grinchy
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went to see 12 years a slave yesterday, thought it was really good, bit brutal in parts, definately not safe for kids, but definately worth a watch,
Also finally watched raiding the lost ark, a filmumentary on the making of raiders, if your a fan and haven't seen it give it a watch
http://vimeo.com/36011979
he also has done the same with star wars empire and jedi, again if you like making off stuff watch these
Also finally watched raiding the lost ark, a filmumentary on the making of raiders, if your a fan and haven't seen it give it a watch
http://vimeo.com/36011979
he also has done the same with star wars empire and jedi, again if you like making off stuff watch these
Watched American Hustle last night. Good film made better by strong performances from the leading 4. Non of whom i've ever been that bowled over with in the past (save Bale in The Fighter). Bale especially puts in a stellar performance in the lead role and is a strong contender for the Best Actor Oscar next month.
Stargeezer
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Went to "12 Years a Slave" the previous weekend and must say it's defenitly a must see.
It's a typical Oscar type winning movie, but you'll get sucked into the story and feel for the guy.
It's a typical Oscar type winning movie, but you'll get sucked into the story and feel for the guy.
grinchy
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that captain phillips worth a watch? looks ok from the trailer.
I watched enders game, not bad, i only watched it as harrison ford was in it, the whole time he was on screen i kept thinking yeah he could pull Han off again
I watched enders game, not bad, i only watched it as harrison ford was in it, the whole time he was on screen i kept thinking yeah he could pull Han off again
grinchy
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TwistedMetal
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Just watched ' Lone Survivor ' it was the most moving film I have seen in a long time, even at the end of the movie when it shows pics of the real soldiers it brought a tear to my eye, words can't express the respect I have for the real men that were sent out on that mission and the courage these men have.
Now about the film 10/10 amazing from start to finish, when the **** hit the fan all I was thinking was I wish Rambo would pop up and help these guys out
Now about the film 10/10 amazing from start to finish, when the **** hit the fan all I was thinking was I wish Rambo would pop up and help these guys out
