How do you keep your movies and have any of you had Disc Rot ?

[Pomse2001]

I use MakeMKV

https://www.makemkv.com

The beta version is free (and has been for a while). It's got a simple interface and converts DVDs and Blurays quickly.

Thanks mate for the info so mkv is the best ? :?

Personally I prefer MKV, but that's because it'd much more flexible than MP4 and has more features.

You'll find MP4 is supported by more devices than MKV, but MKV has more features and supports more codecs. MKV isn't really an industry standard though, so you might want to check your TV can actually play it before creating too many (most TVs should support MKV, so hopefully it won't be a problem for you).

thanks mate again for the help, I talked with another guy and he say I should make vob files :shock: but I have also talked with a few other guys and they say mkv files

 

[peekaygee73]

Thanks mate for the info so mkv is the best ? :?

Personally I prefer MKV, but that's because it'd much more flexible than MP4 and has more features.

You'll find MP4 is supported by more devices than MKV, but MKV has more features and supports more codecs. MKV isn't really an industry standard though, so you might want to check your TV can actually play it before creating too many (most TVs should support MKV, so hopefully it won't be a problem for you).

thanks mate again for the help, I talked with another guy and he say I should make vob files :shock: but I have also talked with a few other guys and they say mkv files

:lol: Talk to 10 different people and you'll get 10 different opinions.

Happy to help

VOB files are what's on DVDs. My TV won't play VOBs via a hard drive/USB stick so that was another reason for going with MKV. Give the MKV software a go and see what you think. It's simple to use, but drop me a PM if you have any problems.

 

[Pomse2001]

Personally I prefer MKV, but that's because it'd much more flexible than MP4 and has more features.

You'll find MP4 is supported by more devices than MKV, but MKV has more features and supports more codecs. MKV isn't really an industry standard though, so you might want to check your TV can actually play it before creating too many (most TVs should support MKV, so hopefully it won't be a problem for you).

thanks mate again for the help, I talked with another guy and he say I should make vob files :shock: but I have also talked with a few other guys and they say mkv files

:lol: Talk to 10 different people and you'll get 10 different opinions.

Happy to help

VOB files are what's on DVDs. My TV won't play VOBs via a hard drive/USB stick so that was another reason for going with MKV. Give the MKV software a go and see what you think. It's simple to use, but drop me a PM if you have any problems.

Thanks mate I will do a rip today in mkv and buy a harddrive tomorrow so I can test if it work on my tv

 

[Pomse2001]

Personally I prefer MKV, but that's because it'd much more flexible than MP4 and has more features.

You'll find MP4 is supported by more devices than MKV, but MKV has more features and supports more codecs. MKV isn't really an industry standard though, so you might want to check your TV can actually play it before creating too many (most TVs should support MKV, so hopefully it won't be a problem for you).

thanks mate again for the help, I talked with another guy and he say I should make vob files :shock: but I have also talked with a few other guys and they say mkv files

:lol: Talk to 10 different people and you'll get 10 different opinions.

Happy to help

VOB files are what's on DVDs. My TV won't play VOBs via a hard drive/USB stick so that was another reason for going with MKV. Give the MKV software a go and see what you think. It's simple to use, but drop me a PM if you have any problems.

Today I did the first test, it looks like my tv is to old for mkv files but my dvd player also have a usb port so I did a test with that port. But only with a usb stick and it was a cartoon movie I did the test with. It works fine and looks just like the dvd recording and the sound is also the same now I will get a harddrive to do the test some say I should use 2.5 harddrive others say 3.5 harddrive what do you use ?

 

[peekaygee73]

I use two 3.5 hard disks, the latest of which is a Western Digital 6TB disk:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077RV4ZLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Generally, you should get better value for money (in terms of storage space and speed) with a 3.5, whereas a 2.5 will usually be quieter.

I don't actually have my hard drives connected directly to my TV, They're connected to my PC and the TV accesses them over a local network I've set up. Having yours connected directly to your DVD player should be fine though.

 

[Pomse2001]

I use two 3.5 hard disks, the latest of which is a Western Digital 6TB disk:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077RV4ZLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Generally, you should get better value for money (in terms of storage space and speed) with a 3.5, whereas a 2.5 will usually be quieter.

I don't actually have my hard drives connected directly to my TV, They're connected to my PC and the TV accesses them over a local network I've set up. Having yours connected directly to your DVD player should be fine though.

thanks mate, the only thing I still fear is even with backup is it safe with so much on a hard drive :? on a dvd or a blu-ray disc then you always see on the reading side of the disc if there is any damage like rot, but I guess you can't see damage on a hard drive ? :?

How long do you keep a hard drive before you move the stuff to a new hard drive ? and is it safe just to choose copy the files with windows to another hard drive ? or is there a more safe way to do it ? :?

 

[bender76]

I have a NAS system in my local network... 12 terrabytes mirrored in RAID 1 keeps plenty of mkv´s and others... If one (of 4) Harddiscs crashes I only need to replace it with a new emty one thats the same size and the NAS does all the work... Watch all my movies with a RaspberryPi 3 with KODI runnig, which costs about €60, can directly access my NAS server and plays almost all codecs... You see the problem with mkv is it is not really a codec but a container format that can contain a number of video and audio codecs like MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.264, HEVC, AC3, DTS, MP3,... KODI, in my case on a RaspberryPI is freeware and you can update it from time to time to support new codecs, very easy.
Man, sorry I would love to explain it to you more specific but I do have some problems with english, hope I could help a little 8)

 

[Pomse2001]

I have a NAS system in my local network... 12 terrabytes mirrored in RAID 1 keeps plenty of mkv´s and others... If one (of 4) Harddiscs crashes I only need to replace it with a new emty one thats the same size and the NAS does all the work... Watch all my movies with a RaspberryPi 3 with KODI runnig, which costs about €60, can directly access my NAS server and plays almost all codecs... You see the problem with mkv is it is not really a codec but a container format that can contain a number of video and audio codecs like MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.264, HEVC, AC3, DTS, MP3,... KODI, in my case on a RaspberryPI is freeware and you can update it from time to time to support new codecs, very easy.
Man, sorry I would love to explain it to you more specific but I do have some problems with english, hope I could help a little 8)

Thanks mate for the info

 

[Pomse2001]

About movie cases made of bad plastic that damage the dvd disc, then keep an eye out for cases that maked this cirkles, you can clean them but it will come back again and again. It is easy to spot them on black cases. It is only something I have heard from some movie collectors.

 

[Pomse2001]

and here are a picture of the plastic sleeves that I have used for my dvd and blu-ray disc with recordings from tv. I have tried to point out the damage on this blu-ray disc. This blu-ray disc has only been in this pocket for 2 years and I have found more than 50 that looks like that :shock:
I also have another type of plastic sleeves and there is no damage on the blu-rays in this sleeves :shock:

 

[Pomse2001]

I use two 3.5 hard disks, the latest of which is a Western Digital 6TB disk:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077RV4ZLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Generally, you should get better value for money (in terms of storage space and speed) with a 3.5, whereas a 2.5 will usually be quieter.

I don't actually have my hard drives connected directly to my TV, They're connected to my PC and the TV accesses them over a local network I've set up. Having yours connected directly to your DVD player should be fine though.

Any idea how long such a hard drive can work before I have to replace it ? :?

 

[peekaygee73]

I use two 3.5 hard disks, the latest of which is a Western Digital 6TB disk:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077RV4ZLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Generally, you should get better value for money (in terms of storage space and speed) with a 3.5, whereas a 2.5 will usually be quieter.

I don't actually have my hard drives connected directly to my TV, They're connected to my PC and the TV accesses them over a local network I've set up. Having yours connected directly to your DVD player should be fine though.

Any idea how long such a hard drive can work before I have to replace it ? :?

It really depends on a number of factors, including manufacturer, drive type, etc... but this article should be quite useful.

https://www.prosofteng.com/blog/how-long-do-hard-drives-last/

As recommended by bender76, if you have a NAS set up with RAID capability you're in a much better position to minimise potential for data loss due to drive failure.

 

[Pomse2001]

I use two 3.5 hard disks, the latest of which is a Western Digital 6TB disk:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077RV4ZLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Generally, you should get better value for money (in terms of storage space and speed) with a 3.5, whereas a 2.5 will usually be quieter.

I don't actually have my hard drives connected directly to my TV, They're connected to my PC and the TV accesses them over a local network I've set up. Having yours connected directly to your DVD player should be fine though.

Any idea how long such a hard drive can work before I have to replace it ? :?

It really depends on a number of factors, including manufacturer, drive type, etc... but this article should be quite useful.

https://www.prosofteng.com/blog/how-long-do-hard-drives-last/

As recommended by bender76, if you have a NAS set up with RAID capability you're in a much better position to minimise potential for data loss due to drive failure.

3 to 5 years is not long, I had hoped for 20 years :lol: any info about what NAS set up with RAID capability is ? :?

 

[peekaygee73]

Hard drive life does vary depending on how much you use them.

NAS and RAID? This could start to get technical Lars

NAS is a 'Network Attached Storage'. It's basically a unit that contains a number of hard drives, and the unit is connected to a network. Having it on a network allows it to be accessed by multiple devices.

RAID is 'Redundant Array of Independent Disks'. If you have a NAS system as above, configuring it for RAID allows you to store the same data across multiple hard drives. Doing this means that if one of your hard drives fails you can still access all your files as they would've been stored on your other hard drive(s).

 

[Pomse2001]

Hard drive life does vary depending on how much you use them.

NAS and RAID? This could start to get technical Lars

NAS is a 'Network Attached Storage'. It's basically a unit that contains a number of hard drives, and the unit is connected to a network. Having it on a network allows it to be accessed by multiple devices.

RAID is 'Redundant Array of Independent Disks'. If you have a NAS system as above, configuring it for RAID allows you to store the same data across multiple hard drives. Doing this means that if one of your hard drives fails you can still access all your files as they would've been stored on your other hard drive(s).

ok, thanks. So it is just the same as if I buy 2 hard drives and copy the same files to both hard drives ? :?

Ok now I have a new problem. I have just bought the tv series Xena at a garage sale and I checked the dvd disc and they looked fine. When I got home and cleaned them I noticed under the light that there is a little bit of beginning disc rot on all 6 dvd in that box :shock: But it looks like they still work. I have some unused dvd and blu-ray disc, so I was thinking about doing a copy of them to save the season before the dvd disc does not work anymore. I found a freeware program on the internet and did a copy of one dvd, but the dvd was to big to fit on a normal dvd, they are dvd-dl size 8 gb each so I used a empty blu-ray disc. The blu-ray disc with the copy works fine on my computer with the menu etc. etc. but on my dvd player on the tv it does not work correct, I can't choose anything in the menu, but I can go behind and choose the vob file, but the danish sub titles is unreadable. Any idea what I have done wrong ? have I used a wrong program for this ? :? how can I get it to work on my dvd player and make a copy that work 100% as the original :? Why I ask is I still want to keep my original movies it is only my tv recordings that I want to move to hard drives

 

[peekaygee73]

Hard drive life does vary depending on how much you use them.

NAS and RAID? This could start to get technical Lars

NAS is a 'Network Attached Storage'. It's basically a unit that contains a number of hard drives, and the unit is connected to a network. Having it on a network allows it to be accessed by multiple devices.

RAID is 'Redundant Array of Independent Disks'. If you have a NAS system as above, configuring it for RAID allows you to store the same data across multiple hard drives. Doing this means that if one of your hard drives fails you can still access all your files as they would've been stored on your other hard drive(s).

ok, thanks. So it is just the same as if I buy 2 hard drives and copy the same files to both hard drives ? :?

Ok now I have a new problem. I have just bought the tv series Xena at a garage sale and I checked the dvd disc and they looked fine. When I got home and cleaned them I noticed under the light that there is a little bit of beginning disc rot on all 6 dvd in that box :shock: But it looks like they still work. I have some unused dvd and blu-ray disc, so I was thinking about doing a copy of them to save the season before the dvd disc does not work anymore. I found a freeware program on the internet and did a copy of one dvd, but the dvd was to big to fit on a normal dvd, they are dvd-dl size 8 gb each so I used a empty blu-ray disc. The blu-ray disc with the copy works fine on my computer with the menu etc. etc. but on my dvd player on the tv it does not work correct, I can't choose anything in the menu, but I can go behind and choose the vob file, but the danish sub titles is unreadable. Any idea what I have done wrong ? have I used a wrong program for this ? :? how can I get it to work on my dvd player and make a copy that work 100% as the original :? Why I ask is I still want to keep my original movies it is only my tv recordings that I want to move to hard drives

At a very simplistic level a NAS is kind of the same as 2 hard drives with the same content, but the NAS does all the management of the drives itself. If you know someone who's technically minded and can help you with buying and setting up a NAS then that's definitely the preferred option.

A DVD player can only read DVD discs; it can't read a Blu-ray disc. You either need to purchase some dual-layer blank DVDs or get some software that resizes the content of a dual-layer DVD to fit on a single layer DVD.

 

[Pomse2001]

Hard drive life does vary depending on how much you use them.

NAS and RAID? This could start to get technical Lars

NAS is a 'Network Attached Storage'. It's basically a unit that contains a number of hard drives, and the unit is connected to a network. Having it on a network allows it to be accessed by multiple devices.

RAID is 'Redundant Array of Independent Disks'. If you have a NAS system as above, configuring it for RAID allows you to store the same data across multiple hard drives. Doing this means that if one of your hard drives fails you can still access all your files as they would've been stored on your other hard drive(s).

ok, thanks. So it is just the same as if I buy 2 hard drives and copy the same files to both hard drives ? :?

Ok now I have a new problem. I have just bought the tv series Xena at a garage sale and I checked the dvd disc and they looked fine. When I got home and cleaned them I noticed under the light that there is a little bit of beginning disc rot on all 6 dvd in that box :shock: But it looks like they still work. I have some unused dvd and blu-ray disc, so I was thinking about doing a copy of them to save the season before the dvd disc does not work anymore. I found a freeware program on the internet and did a copy of one dvd, but the dvd was to big to fit on a normal dvd, they are dvd-dl size 8 gb each so I used a empty blu-ray disc. The blu-ray disc with the copy works fine on my computer with the menu etc. etc. but on my dvd player on the tv it does not work correct, I can't choose anything in the menu, but I can go behind and choose the vob file, but the danish sub titles is unreadable. Any idea what I have done wrong ? have I used a wrong program for this ? :? how can I get it to work on my dvd player and make a copy that work 100% as the original :? Why I ask is I still want to keep my original movies it is only my tv recordings that I want to move to hard drives

At a very simplistic level a NAS is kind of the same as 2 hard drives with the same content, but the NAS does all the management of the drives itself. If you know someone who's technically minded and can help you with buying and setting up a NAS then that's definitely the preferred option.

A DVD player can only read DVD discs; it can't read a Blu-ray disc. You either need to purchase some dual-layer blank DVDs or get some software that resizes the content of a dual-layer DVD to fit on a single layer DVD.

Oh sorry my mistake, it is a blu-ray player that I have.