The imaginatively titled Premier League 21/22 Thread

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Ten Haag looks a good appointment. On paper he is what Utd need. If he is allowed time to mould/sort the team out then UItd have a chance of challenging again. The problems will come from a squad who don't care, most of whom are overpaid and know no one else will pay them half as much so if they get sold they take a huge wage cut, hence it's in their interest to get the manager fired. Plus a Board who know FA about football or are primarily concerned with finances and not football.

Still, I step in the right direction for Utd, sadly lol.

Agreed on Lampard. That was a daft appointment to start with. He has no track record of relegation fights. In fact his track record is bang average. He took sides to exactly where you would expect them to be. That's NOT what you need when you are fighting relegation. To think the Everton fans graffitied their own training ground saying they didn't want the other fella who was in the running, despite him having won leagues and having shown he had a clue how to manage. I bet they are regretting that now.
Still given how much money they have wasted over the last 3 or 4 years it's hard to have any sympathy for them. And boy are they ****** when they go down, financially they are properly ******. They are chancing their arm by claiming they are still JUST inside PL finance rules, but take away the PL TV money and reduce gate receipts and suddenly **** gets real. They'll do well to get rid of most of the ***** they bought as well. Plus I doubt they put relegation release clauses or wage reduction clauses in their contracts.

Ohh and that 1st penalty they got was a joke. Gordon feels a little contact, takes two steps then LITERALLY swan dives. THAT'S NOT A PEN. THAT'S A DIVE! VAR looked at it and saw no reason to over rule. You have to wonder WTF those boys smoke. Contact does not equal a foul. Taking 2 steps then swan diving kinda gives away that the contact wasn't enough to knock him over. Still, good old VAR.


Ohh and nice of Chelsea to defend like Everton last night too. They will do well to get through now.
 
Boy, the ref last night was absolutely abysmal. And as for VAR... The game is clearly corrupt, when you have a ref stopping play for fake cramp (in the first half!) and other miscellaneous fake leg injuries. He even let Lyon retake a foul throw! He sends Cresswell off for the lightest of touches when their striker is running away from goal and Bowen is flattened by a clear as day foul (way worse!) in the same phase of play. Dembele is a complete scumbag, with his wink after Cress got his marching orders. Then Bowen gets booked for pretty much nothing.

Also, how on earth is it fair that French teams can sign players out of window from Russia/Ukraine, to play in the last few games of the season, yet English clubs aren't allowed?
 
Premier league ruling last month. He was due to go to Southampton from what I read
 
Yeah, I think the German league had similar issues. Not sure if they allowed it or not.

As for the WH game, I only saw bits of it. The ref did seem to stop every time a Lyon boys went down, the ref in the Chelsea game did the same on Wed night. Hopefully that's just two idiot refs who buy every attempt to break up play, if it's going to become more common then games are going to last 4 hours and ET will be longer than the half itself.

I'm kinda on the fence on the pen. I can see both sides of it. Demebele was going away from goal, from the 2 views I saw, so you can certainly argue it's not a 'clear goal scoring opportunity' as the angle is tight. But then WTF do UEFA count as 'clear goal scoring opportunity'. There is a BIT of contact, but probably not quite enough for Demebele to go down like he did, and the wink proves he was at best exploiting the situation or at worst cheating. But, at the same time, Cresswell has to know if he puts his arm on him the chances are he will go to ground and as the last man he is a world of trouble. I'm not sure there was a huge amount he could do, beyond getting into position sooner, but as soon as he reaches for Demebele he is asking for trouble. At least he had the sense to do it outside the box! By the rules of the game it probably was JUST ABOUT a red, but a very very soft one. A "European red" not the sort you would see in the PL. But I also think VAR should probably have told the ref to go and look at it again, as it does look a bit more of a dive in slow mo, and the wink says a lot. If I was a WH fan I would be pissed it was given, but I can see why it was.

I missed the second half so no idea on Bowen's booking and I don't remember the incident where he was cleaned.
 
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One game at a time territory feels very much more like the wheels are off territory at the minute. Spurs in the box seat for 4th but the game in hand and the derby could still make all the difference.
 
Yep the North London merry go round is in action again, a few weeks ago we were a laughing stock and you'd won five games on the bounce. Things can change quickly, I would put money on there being more twists and turns yet!

And how ridiculous were Kane and Son today, is there any better attacking pair in the world?
 
I didn't see the City - Pool game but I'm assuming the score line and table shows there is virtually nothing in it this year! Should be an interesting run in. It's been a while since there was any real drama on the last day, would be nice.
 
Think City are big favourites for the league now, much easier run in, Liverpool looking good tho, can see Liverpool winning all remaining games so will be fascinating.

As for top 4 I think Spurs are in pole now. Every time you think one of them has turned a corner the wheels seem to come off. Will probably be more twists.

As for Man Utd I can't believe the lack of effort. I would be annoyed as an Everton fan as they were really bad as well and Lampard lives to fight another day, they are still likely to go down, to late for big Sam?
 
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We were truly awful yesterday, against a Brentford side that were merely ok. We looked completely spent, which is quite worrying.

Thought Man City were definitely the better side, Liverpool had a great start to the second half and really made the most of their good spell. Gonna be close!
 
Great weekend for Spuds @edd_jedi!

Arsenal beaten, WH beaten, Utd beaten and Wolves beaten.
Bad results for all four. Utd were shambolic from what I heard/saw. A pure testimonial performance. Certainly what the **** AWB is doing for the goal I do not know, that's the definition of lackadaisical jog back into something approximating where a RB should be positioned, a token half effort at pressing and then nothing. Shockingly bad. Ronaldo slapping a kids phone out his hand too, and then offering to bring him to Ot to watch a game. 1) the kid is an Everton fan, so has no interest in going to OT. 2) you're on £500kpw buy the poor bastard a new phone you knobber.
Arsenal where in prime spot for fourth now lost 3 in 4 games.

WH tried to have their cake and eat, they should probably have prioritised the EL, but now they have an extra game in the legs of their small squad AND they dropped points. Thursday is a very big game for them now as top four is probably gone, they have City still to play and would need to win all their other games.

As for City Pool. Horrible. Two hours of ******* torture. City played Pool off the park in the first half. Pool had 1 decent chance as well as the one they scored. Whilst City didn't exactly have a bucket load, the game was played 10 yards from Pool's box.
Second half was a bit more even. One of those games, I'm not sure either side deserved to lose, but if you had to pick a winner, it was City. Then again they were at home and they have spent £500+m since Klopp took over Pool.

The FAC this weekend might be a bit more even. City's record an Anfield is pish, as is Pool's at the Etithad.
I do think one or both of them will drop points between now and the end of the season, so I don't think it's all over. But I saw something that said City had a 66% ish chance of winning it. I'd say that's about right, if anything possibly a little low.
 
Yes apart from Chelsea winning 6-0 everything else went Spurs' way last weekend, so it makes up for the reverse situation a few weeks back. With 7 or 8 games left I think there's still going to be plenty of twists not only for the title but also for 4th-7th, looks like Wolves have blown it now but the rest could all end up anywhere.
 
Chelsea were a bit unlucky last night, that disallowed Alonso goal could have gone either way. Ultimately they paid the price for some individual errors. Mendy in the 1st leg and Rudiger slipper for the winer. Fine margins like that decide games at this level.

Some result for Villareal, although the fact they had a total of 2 shots on target across both legs sums up exactly what the result was, the definition of daylight robbery.
 
Liverpool have basically had a buy to the final from the group stage! Man City luck that is. Man Utd have had harder runs in the Europa League. lol
 
Liverpool have basically had a buy to the final from the group stage! Man City luck that is. Man Utd have had harder runs in the Europa League. lol
Stop reading Man U fan forums!

I had that exact same guff from a blinkered bitter Utd fan earlier in the week.
Pool had one of the hardest groups in the group stage. Seriously, go and look and the groups and tell me which ones are harder than Pool's!
They had the Spanish champions (Atleti), the Portugese champions (Porto) and the Italian runners up (AC). Whatever way you want to dress that up those are the champions/runners up of the second, third and sixth best leagues in Europe.
And Pool beat them all home and away. Does the fact Pool beat them suddenly make them easy games?

The fact City struggled against Atleti shows you how fecking horrible and hard they are to play.

Then Pool had Inter in the 2nd round who are currently top of Serie A, granted it ain't the league it used to be, but ehh they are no mugs.

I will give you Benfica being one of the kinder draws in the quarters and Villarreal being the surprise package of the tournament. Albeit Villareal have duffed out Juve and Bayern. But the group and 2nd round games were by no means a bye.

Looking like City in the final, if the bookies are right. That will NOT be fun.

Ps, anyone see the end of the City Atleti game? Jesus.
 
Nice bit of fishing! lol. What you on about @weasel hard group stage??? AC Milan pensioners, Spanish pub league champions and Portuguese farming champions.
Yeah I did watch the end of the Man City game and was cheering for City. Mainly because I believe they are the only team that can stop Liverpool winning it, also because it was funny to see Athletico get some of there own medicine. Them complaining about the time wasting and faking injury is like Boris complaining about other people having lock down party's.
 
I knew you were fishing, I just decided to play along!

Agreed on Atleti being hypocritical ******s, but then that whole club is just horrible. As I might have said once or twice.
 
Probably 2-1 Harry Maquire own goal and he gives away a penalty in the last minute.

Do you reckon Liverpool had a harder run in the league cup than the CL @weasel?
 
Amazing night in the Europa! I feared for us after that first leg and dreadful display at the weekend, but I couldn't have been more wrong. We were brilliant 👏 Moyes has done a truly phenomenal job.

Barca going out. Rangers going through. Awesome!
 
Burnley sack Dyche for taking Burnley exactly where they should be given the squad they have
 
Sean Dyche sacked. Strange timing. Why now, why not a month ago. Surely too late to save themselves now? Fat Sam is the obvious choice, similar brand of football etc.
 
Yeah amazing for West Ham, and Barca knocked out! Didn't see that coming. Sad times for Burnley, big Sam won't be able to save Burnley and Everton. West Ham Rangers final?
 
Amazing night in the Europa! I feared for us after that first leg and dreadful display at the weekend, but I couldn't have been more wrong. We were brilliant 👏 Moyes has done a truly phenomenal job.

Barca going out. Rangers going through. Awesome!
Yeah, great result for WH and good to see. If I was a WH player I would have celebrated every goal in front if Dembele and if I was marking him I would have been in the winking ***** ear the whole time. Slap it right up him, and the Lyon Twitter team.

Frankfurt are a solid side, so are WH, that will be no easy game. I'd love to see WH win it. If they do they get seeded in pot 1 for the CL, and given how the CL is set up/rigged, that should all but guarantee a second round game at least. There's a good chance one of Pool and City won't be seeded in pot 1, unless one wins the CL and the other the PL.

The question is do they now prioritise the EL and risk their PL form dipping? Given they have Chelsea, Frankfurt, Arsenal, Frankfurt, that's a fecking tough run for a reasonably small squad.
 
Probably 2-1 Harry Maquire own goal and he gives away a penalty in the last minute.

Do you reckon Liverpool had a harder run in the league cup than the CL @weasel?
Ehhhhh, I can't remember Pool's worthless cup run, Chelsea, Arsenal and ehhh (thanks mr google) Leicester, Preston, and Norwich.
Preston and Norwich are both *****, Leicester and Europa conference standard, Chelsea are solid, Arsenal are inconsistent. I'd have to say the CL run was harder. Chelsea are better than any side we have played in CL, but Atleti and Inter are prob on a par with Arsenal, if not better, and Porto/AC are better than Leicester. I would say Villareal are probably a more streetwise Leicester.

Liverpool have had a few easier CL ties, but they are 'easy' by CL standards, where as Norwich and Preston are just easy.

Had Bayern beaten Villareal, I doubt we would have been having this conversation. People would have been pointing out how tricky a run Pool had had, bar Benfica.
 
Ehhhhh, I can't remember Pool's worthless cup run, Chelsea, Arsenal and ehhh (thanks mr google) Leicester, Preston, and Norwich.
Preston and Norwich are both *****, Leicester and Europa conference standard, Chelsea are solid, Arsenal are inconsistent. I'd have to say the CL run was harder. Chelsea are better than any side we have played in CL, but Atleti and Inter are prob on a par with Arsenal, if not better, and Porto/AC are better than Leicester. I would say Villareal are probably a more streetwise Leicester.

Liverpool have had a few easier CL ties, but they are 'easy' by CL standards, where as Norwich and Preston are just easy.

Had Bayern beaten Villareal, I doubt we would have been having this conversation. People would have been pointing out how tricky a run Pool had had, bar Benfica.
Easiest CL run in living memory! Don't know why you keep biting, Liverpool and City are the best teams in the world at the moment and will probably both be in the final. CL is just a cup competition at the end of the day. 😉
 

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