poncho
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my god.....just been on RS and saw this article
http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1109803/
http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1109803/
repro figures galore
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itfciain
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I saw that on FB earlier.
I have to admit that I don;t buy the comment the OP put on RS about him thinking there were loads of fakes out there at the moment. Having bought literally 1000's of figures in the past through years I can assure you that there is not a shortage of figures and most can be bought loose for £1-£. Therefore I don't see the value in making reproduction versions of loose figures - weapons maybe - but not figures -and the effort that would go into making them exact replica's would not be reflected in the price that you could charge for them
Not saying it isn't possible - but not sure it is worth it
I have to admit that I don;t buy the comment the OP put on RS about him thinking there were loads of fakes out there at the moment. Having bought literally 1000's of figures in the past through years I can assure you that there is not a shortage of figures and most can be bought loose for £1-£. Therefore I don't see the value in making reproduction versions of loose figures - weapons maybe - but not figures -and the effort that would go into making them exact replica's would not be reflected in the price that you could charge for them
Not saying it isn't possible - but not sure it is worth it
I've known of the Chinese manufacturers for a while i think i mentioned it once. I'm pretty certain, tho i many be wrong, these companies don't actually have these figures made and ready to go. They are merely advertising the fact that they can make/manufacture plastic figures to order. Again, i could be proved wrong on that. Their listing pic is clearly of a genuine vintage figure. There are, tho, other sellers tho who have the fake white and black stormtroopers made and ready to go and also larger Gentle Giant Stormtrooper copies.
Having said that I must say i don't think it's a brilliant idea for collectors to start posting links to where to buy these things on every social media network and forum they can think of.
Having said that I must say i don't think it's a brilliant idea for collectors to start posting links to where to buy these things on every social media network and forum they can think of.
poncho
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i removed the direct link too the crappy Chinese sitePGowdy said:
ponchobelt said:
Cool. I don't think there's anyone on here who would attempt to buy these but this is a public site and literally anyone googling "reproduction star wars figures" would be met with a wash of links from RS, TIG, here, Facebook etc telling them where and how they can get them manufactured in large quantities.
I do think the furore over that particular supplier is a bit of a storm in tea cup. I don't think they are genuinely manufacturing those figures tho with enough money and the right manufacturer you can get anything made as Mark Poon showed everyone. For the most part tho, it's really not worth the effort, time, money, risk etc.
JuniorChubb
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Begun the Clone Wars have :?
Shocking, I think (hope) Iain and Pete are right as in they are not out there in mass numbers or waiting on the shelves ready to go, and as mentioned in the RS thread the images are more than likely to be original figures.
What we need is to get our hands on one of each before they take off, well those that do take off because as mentioned some figures there is no market for...
At least loose original Klaatus will always be cheaper and more readily available than their copies.
Shocking, I think (hope) Iain and Pete are right as in they are not out there in mass numbers or waiting on the shelves ready to go, and as mentioned in the RS thread the images are more than likely to be original figures.
What we need is to get our hands on one of each before they take off, well those that do take off because as mentioned some figures there is no market for...
At least loose original Klaatus will always be cheaper and more readily available than their copies.
There are many things that tell me they do not have figures actually made. It may even be a totally fake post just designed to draw people in. There are many companies that do that on alibaba.
Firstly those are pictures of genuine vintage figures and most of them are not in the best nick. If the company had the figures manufactured they would have pictures posted of them. Also, if this company were making these figures, who the **** is ordering 500 Klaatus??
Also, look at their shop and all the other items they manufacture for a start they appear to be complete with genuine photos of produced items. Secondly, said items are tacky, poorly made crap. No way does that company have the skills, machinery and expertise to produce genuine [looking] vintage Star Wars figures complete with accessories and weapons.
I have messaged the company expressing an interest in their Star Wars figures and asked them to send me pictures of any figures they have in hand. I already know what will come of it but let's just wait and see.
Firstly those are pictures of genuine vintage figures and most of them are not in the best nick. If the company had the figures manufactured they would have pictures posted of them. Also, if this company were making these figures, who the **** is ordering 500 Klaatus??
Also, look at their shop and all the other items they manufacture for a start they appear to be complete with genuine photos of produced items. Secondly, said items are tacky, poorly made crap. No way does that company have the skills, machinery and expertise to produce genuine [looking] vintage Star Wars figures complete with accessories and weapons.
I have messaged the company expressing an interest in their Star Wars figures and asked them to send me pictures of any figures they have in hand. I already know what will come of it but let's just wait and see.
JuniorChubb
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Hopefully whatever is produced will not fool a collector once the product is in hand.
Certain figures would be easier than others, the Fake Stormies are good quality so Hoth Troopers could be harder to spot as well as other 'one coloured' figures. As soon as the paint jobs get more complexed the fakes will be easier to spot from pictures rather than waiting to get a hands on feel.
Lets see what you get Pete, or hopefully what you don't get.
Certain figures would be easier than others, the Fake Stormies are good quality so Hoth Troopers could be harder to spot as well as other 'one coloured' figures. As soon as the paint jobs get more complexed the fakes will be easier to spot from pictures rather than waiting to get a hands on feel.
Lets see what you get Pete, or hopefully what you don't get.
JuniorChubb said:
Believe me when i tell you that the only reason they got those Stormtroopers so unbelievably close is because they had an expert deeply involved at every stage of production. I bought some dodgy mugs from China recently. They were a really basic design and the company i got them from was a pretty big one and they couldn't even get the basics right.
I'm quite confident in saying that none of the figures pictured in their listing have ever actually been produced. And that is not a new listing. I saw it 2 yeas ago. And several others like it. Always with borrowed/nicked/googled pictures of actual, fairly poor condition and incomplete figures. (Side point:wouldn't they know Vader comes with a cape and sabre if they were actually producing them for someone in the west???)
JuniorChubb
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PGowdy said:
8) You have certainly boosted my confidence.
naughtyjedi
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Remember to start production of half decent replica star wars figures you would need
injection molding machine
the molds themselves - these can be reasonably pricey
a way to paint multiple colours
assembly
obviously certain manufacturers would have this stuff already, but theres a cost for the plastic, labour..
to make it worthwhile your cost per figure would need to be around the 10p mark so you could charge £2-£4 wholesale, then shipping per vast quantity. To justify that you would need to produce enormous quantities to make good money. I've seen these 'large market sites' and its usually 5000 or so minimum order... the only figures worth doing would be yakface, because his loose value is so high and he's only so few parts in comparison to a klaatu (skirt).
injection molding machine
the molds themselves - these can be reasonably pricey
a way to paint multiple colours
assembly
obviously certain manufacturers would have this stuff already, but theres a cost for the plastic, labour..
to make it worthwhile your cost per figure would need to be around the 10p mark so you could charge £2-£4 wholesale, then shipping per vast quantity. To justify that you would need to produce enormous quantities to make good money. I've seen these 'large market sites' and its usually 5000 or so minimum order... the only figures worth doing would be yakface, because his loose value is so high and he's only so few parts in comparison to a klaatu (skirt).
tiefighterboy
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Pomse2001 said:
They mass produced them...they live and breath. :x
tiefighterboy
Grand Master
Easy in hand and up close...hidden in a lot.....no one would know.
Dark Sith Lord
Grand Master
I HATE REPRO
There is millions of loose figures out their. Is their really a need for this?? :twisted:
There is millions of loose figures out their. Is their really a need for this?? :twisted:
tiefighterboy
Grand Master
Dark Sith Lord said:
Same as the need for repro six pack boxes.
By the way, as i first suspected/knew(cos it was blindingly obvious), this company does not and can not produce these figures. Got a bullshit message form them asking me what size models i needed. I replied asking what size is normal. They replied 'most of our customers prefer 6inch figures'.
