Richard_H
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Picture Rooney going to Barca. Scores about 10 goals and then signs for Spurs. That a close analogy.
But yeah - nobody in the last 20 years.
But yeah - nobody in the last 20 years.
Premier League Discussion Thread Season 2014-15
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PGowdy said:So utterly sick of being a Spurs fan. Literally any other team is better to Support. Cos we are the worst of our "group" always underachieving. Forever punching below our weight. Always falling short of the others. Always finishing below our hoped for position. Can that really be said about any other club? Even if you support QPR you get the excitement of beating teams "you shouldn't beat", a relegation battle that even if you lose you get the excitement of promotion a year or 2 later. Spurs are forever the incessant dunces of their proverbial classroom and not a season has gone by in 10 years when i didn't wish i supported someone else.
I completely lost interest in football from about 1997-2007 for that very reason - Spurs finished mid-table every single season. It was boring. Never good, never bad, just average. Like you say at least relegation battles are exciting. I could honestly only name a couple of Spurs players from that decade.
But I think you're being a bit harsh to be honest, the last 6-7 seasons have been far better. There are 14 other teams in the Premier League that would love to finish 4th-6th every season. Like I've said before not every single team can win the league, it's mathematically impossible. So for most people, supporting a team means taking the rough with the smooth. Spurs get a lot of stick, and then you remember 'big' teams like Arsenal that everyone wanks over who finish 1 or 2 points better most seasons. Spurs really aren't far off where you want them to be, it just feels it.
As for signing no big players, they had the most expensive player in history two seasons ago, got to take a bit of pride in that. They've had loads of good players over the years, I don't even know who most of these over-rated 50 or 60 million foreign players are. A solid team is always better than one individual, I'm not saying Spurs have that but as Utd have proven aimlessly spunking money on superstars is hopeless.
edd_jedi said:
It's won Chelsea the league 3 times and Man City twice so i think the evidence suggests otherwise.
Also, i'm not talking about "having good players" Spurs have had loads (lost them all to bigger teams but still had loads). I'm talking about making the big signing when needed and when the players are there to buy. It always seems to be someone else buying quality. We have the money we just don't bother.
It goes from bad to worse - Danyy Welbeck now to sign for Arsenal. Spurs just really not interested in improving are they. :roll:
Good signing for Arsenal. Welbeck is talented and a good back up striker with pace and a decent finish on him. Not a world beater but a necessary signing of the right kind of player. Just as it would have been if anyone half competent was running Tottenham. Oh, well.
Good signing for Arsenal. Welbeck is talented and a good back up striker with pace and a decent finish on him. Not a world beater but a necessary signing of the right kind of player. Just as it would have been if anyone half competent was running Tottenham. Oh, well.
PGowdy said:
You think!?
I think it's one of the most underwhelming signings of recent years! Arsenal have needed a striker all summer. It was pretty obvious that they only had Giroud and when he got injured Wenger stuck his head in the sand and did nothing for a week before panicking and buying the last available striker for a ridiculous price.
16 million for someone who was never more than a squad member (first reserve) at Utd? FFS they could have had Balotelli for that money! I'm not saying I think Balotelli is amazing, but if given a choice between the two I know who I would rate higher. They could even have had TWO Loric Remys! But NO! They wait until everyone is sold and then over pay for a boy with a strike rate that is at best mediocre.
Wenger amazes me some times. You boys think it's hard supporting Spuds, I'm not sure that other lot from North London are any easier to support. I quite like Arsenal as a team/club, probably mainly cos they aren't Utd or a rich man's play thing, but **** me they are frustrating to watch and I don't envy their fans having to put up with Wenger's stubbornness. Any other club would have sacked him or slapped some sense into him long ago.
On that note, Spuds. Unless I've missed something, They didn't sign a striker? So they have Adebayor and Harry Kane. When the next transfer window opens they have exactly two weeks to sign a replacement for Adenayor or they are playing with Harry Kane as their only striker while the ACN is on. Daniel Levy should be sacked for that.
It's been a glaring weakness in their squad since they sold Defoe and he has done nothing. It's not like there has been a shortage of strikers moving either. Supporting Arsenal may be frustrating but I feel sorry for you Spuds fans. Levy may be good at getting top dollar for the players you sell, but it seems he's had his fingers burnt last summer and has now decided to buy no one. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Spuds have ZERO chance of making the CL spots now.
PGowdy said:
It didn't happen to either club over night though - people seem to forget City were a Championship side a decade ago. It took YEARS of throwing money at the club to get them to where they are now. I don't buy the theory that one amazing striker makes up for a **** team - what about RVP at United? Or Bale at Spurs, a closer to home example? You need to build a team from the ground up IMO, then finish it off with expensive toppings. Not hope a couple of big signings will cover up the mess. Look at Southampton last season, they finished 8th with a team nobody had ever heard of.
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weasel said:
you are not wrong :roll:
I'm hopeful Wellbeck will come good but a massive gamble on Wenger's part. Balotelli is overrated and temperamental, but there's been loads of other options for Spurs and Arsenal this summer - crazy
The worst thing about Wenger is that he also sold another defender yesterday rather than replace Vermaelen - that is madness. Now only three centrebacks for a season :shock:
He'll pull some French speaking African kid out of nowhere and insist he is as good as WC winning Mertesacker or Koshelny or whoever is injured. Even though the kid is nothing but raw potential, and not very good raw potential at that!
Or he'll play Abu Diaby...............for 2 games, until he gets injured, again, again, again, again, again, again!
Or he'll play Abu Diaby...............for 2 games, until he gets injured, again, again, again, again, again, again!
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16M for Wellbeck is a good deal even though he may not be a superstar. With the likes of Doyle and Long going for 10 and 12M in the past, it's decent business. He does have a goal every other game record which isn't bad and probably a better rate than Giroud. A 3rd of his United appearances were as a sub so looks a bit **** on paper.
Falcao could be a master stroke as it's give the oppotunity of playing Rooney behind the front two which I think maybe his best position. Saying that, where does it leave Mata who is one of few other quality players.
Falcao could be a master stroke as it's give the oppotunity of playing Rooney behind the front two which I think maybe his best position. Saying that, where does it leave Mata who is one of few other quality players.
I think 16 million is a bit steep for Wellkack but nothing too bad, allowing for his age, the fact he was signed from a rival and the old 'English premium'. I just don't think the guy is any good. Surely Arsenal could have found a better option than him?
I agree if you compare the price to what Shane Long went for then it's a great deal, but Shane Long is NEVER EVER EVER worth twelve million quid. That's a case of Hull knowing Saints had tonnes of money and taking them for a ride. It's probably double what he's worth. In fact I think it's double what Hull paid for him 6 months previously. Did his record at Hull, four goals in 15 games, warrant a doubling of his price? Did it ****!
He'll still scores goals at Arsenal, who wouldn't with that midfield behind you? But I suspect in a few years he'll be quietly shipped out to someone else for 8million when Arsenal actually get round to signing a decent striker.
I agree if you compare the price to what Shane Long went for then it's a great deal, but Shane Long is NEVER EVER EVER worth twelve million quid. That's a case of Hull knowing Saints had tonnes of money and taking them for a ride. It's probably double what he's worth. In fact I think it's double what Hull paid for him 6 months previously. Did his record at Hull, four goals in 15 games, warrant a doubling of his price? Did it ****!
He'll still scores goals at Arsenal, who wouldn't with that midfield behind you? But I suspect in a few years he'll be quietly shipped out to someone else for 8million when Arsenal actually get round to signing a decent striker.
On a slightly unrelated note, can anyone explain to me why we need a round of international fixtures now? :roll:
The World cup finished eight weeks ago!? FFS could FIFA not let the various leagues run for a few weeks without a pointless round of friendlies? I doubt any players, bar those who will be making their debuts, are mad keen to traipse off round the world for a waste of time game, and I'm pretty sure most fans are tired of international football, and the managers have just spent the guts of a month with the players during the WC. The fact they are expecting an attendance of 40k speaks for itself. Less than half full for a home friendly at the tail end of summer.
But then when did FIFA ever exhibit any common sense?
The World cup finished eight weeks ago!? FFS could FIFA not let the various leagues run for a few weeks without a pointless round of friendlies? I doubt any players, bar those who will be making their debuts, are mad keen to traipse off round the world for a waste of time game, and I'm pretty sure most fans are tired of international football, and the managers have just spent the guts of a month with the players during the WC. The fact they are expecting an attendance of 40k speaks for itself. Less than half full for a home friendly at the tail end of summer.
But then when did FIFA ever exhibit any common sense?
Richard_H
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Er - isn't Switzerland a Euro qualifier and not a friendly?
Still pointless though.
And I'm gutted with Wellbeck but will give him a chance
Still pointless though.
And I'm gutted with Wellbeck but will give him a chance
Dark Sith Lord
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weasel said:
Yep Switzeland Monday Night. No idea why.
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I don't think that Wellbeck is too bad a signing,
IMHO Man U have took a huge risk spending all
that cash on three players especially if they don't
get champions league next year :roll:
IMHO Man U have took a huge risk spending all
that cash on three players especially if they don't
get champions league next year :roll:
Dark Sith Lord
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29067406
What the ****? Ronaldinho to basingstoke? :roll:
What the ****? Ronaldinho to basingstoke? :roll:
Dark Sith Lord
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A great start for Northern Ireland with a win away in Hungary. Most be backed with a home win against the Faroes tho
Richard_H
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And Ireland. Love to see the home nations do well. If England don't win H and A each game they want to hang their heads in shame. Look at the group! Our toughest match is away to Switzerland who are mostly PL fringe players.
Dark Sith Lord
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Yes Ireland too.Cc4rhu said:
I completely agree. I keep hearing people say their worried we will qualify due to our lack of goals.
If we dont qualify top of this group. England as a footballing nation might as well pack its bags and give up!
