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lejackal said:
Don't worry about whether you deserve it or not, if you win it you win it simple as that.
I'm glad in a way Man Utd have got Chelsea, the ties we've been getting has started to get a bit embarrassing.
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Don't worry about whether you deserve it or not, if you win it you win it simple as that.
I'm glad in a way Man Utd have got Chelsea, the ties we've been getting has started to get a bit embarrassing.
Very strange timing.
They do look like a sinking ship in the PL, but that IS their level. They were/are one of the 5 or 6 weakest sides in the PL, they have simply reverted to type this season after a massive massive overachievement last season. It just goes to show you that B.O.D's will do anything to try and stay on the PL gravy train.
I do think the players have to kop a hell of a lot of the blame but no club is gonna sack all of it's playing staff mid season.
The timing gets me though, why do it midway through a CL knockout game and AFTER the transfer window has closed? Why not a month ago?
They do look like a sinking ship in the PL, but that IS their level. They were/are one of the 5 or 6 weakest sides in the PL, they have simply reverted to type this season after a massive massive overachievement last season. It just goes to show you that B.O.D's will do anything to try and stay on the PL gravy train.
I do think the players have to kop a hell of a lot of the blame but no club is gonna sack all of it's playing staff mid season.
The timing gets me though, why do it midway through a CL knockout game and AFTER the transfer window has closed? Why not a month ago?
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In hindsight they should have taken all the big money offers for players in the summer and brought in a few dependable will keep you in the league at all costs types and some young and hungry types for a bit of flair. Oh, and accepted going out of of Europe in the group stages
Yeah I'm really baffled by it, as you say they're not even out of the CL yet! They should have at least waited until/if that happened. It seems winning the league was a poisoned chalice, I bet if they finished tenth last season and were 17th now he wouldn't have been sacked. Just goes to show last season was blind luck.
Typical Spurs performance in the Europa League last night, 65% possession and 25(!) shots yet somehow still managed to lose. Even with ten men they were still the far more dominant team.
Typical Spurs performance in the Europa League last night, 65% possession and 25(!) shots yet somehow still managed to lose. Even with ten men they were still the far more dominant team.
edd_jedi said:
Yeah, they dominated and had tonnes of shots but not that many clear cut chances.
That tackle by Alli was atrocious. That was a true leg breaker/career ender. It may have been an accident and he doesn't have a history of doing stuff like that, but that's the sort of tackle that a 3 game ban isn't even close to enough punishment for.
Not sure if getting knocked out was a good result for spuds or not. The Europa league is a distraction, BUT it has a CL spot for the winner and there aren't that many good sides in it this year.
Spuds can now concentrate on the PL but given how pish they have been in Europe this year, if I was the FA I'd save them the embarrassment and ban them from qualificiation! lol
Leicester FFS don't do it.
There are hundreds of better managers out there than Woy. FFS you just sacked one. Another is in temporary control of the team. If you want to go back to soulless "what are we meant to be doing again?" football......why did you sack Ranieri?
Appointing Roy Hodgson is like driving a car towards a cliff, slamming on the breaks and stopping just in time, getting out walking up to edge and shooting yourself in the head. :roll:
Ohh and Liverpool, that was absolutely ****ing pathetic.
There are hundreds of better managers out there than Woy. FFS you just sacked one. Another is in temporary control of the team. If you want to go back to soulless "what are we meant to be doing again?" football......why did you sack Ranieri?
Appointing Roy Hodgson is like driving a car towards a cliff, slamming on the breaks and stopping just in time, getting out walking up to edge and shooting yourself in the head. :roll:
Ohh and Liverpool, that was absolutely ****ing pathetic.
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lejackal said:
Good read that, City should put some effort towards filling their stadium for next home game as well. :lol:
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Should be two more sending offs in this match. The stamp was terrible, and the elbow was clearly intentional.
Only seen the highlights if the Utd game. I actually agree with Danny Murphy, i'm not sure the stamp is deliberate. It's not pretty and he probably could have taken more extreme measures to avoid Ibrahimovic, but he only glances down then is looking at the ball the rest of the time. Not saying he didn't mean it, just saying I don't think we can be sure it was deliberate.
The elbowing in the other hand, looks very deliberate. It's totally a case of him getting revenger for the stamp but still it shouldn't be allowed to go unpunished. I'd say two retrospective bans are coming.
Ohh and that penalty Utd got was a joke. That's the definition of the kind of soft penalty they get when they aren't winnign at OT. Yer man is in the air trying to block a ball that's 3 yards away, what is he supposed to do with his hands?
Wenger is doing his best to get himself sacked.
Resting your best player in an away game against a top four rival. Genius. Especially as you have a CL game in midweek which is the ****ing definition of 'dead rubber'. No chance Arsenal will beat Bayern by four, so they are already out. Why save your best player for a game that is already lost and forfeit 45 mins if him playing in a game that will have a big baring on whether you make the CL again? I just don't get it.
Wenger said he wanted to rest Sanchez so Arsenal "could be more direct."
Four points.
1) Since when have Arsenal played 'Direct' football! Not since ****ing. George Graham left
2) Ok, if you wanna try it, but ehhh saying you're going to do it and then NOT doing it, they didn't play any long balls at all it was the usual short passing, is ****ing daft.
3) What's wrong with telling Sanchez to be direct and just run at Liverpool's notoriously soft backline? He's pretty bloody good at that sort of thing.
4) Eehhh pretty sure everyone knows how to beat Liverpool. FFS Wolves figured it out, surely someone like Wenger should have picked up on it. You sit deep, make yourself hard to break down and catch them on the break. You know, using fast, tricky, skillful players like ooohhh Sanchez :roll:
I like Arsenal as a club, but **** me Wenger frustrates the life outta me. Either he's too stubborn to admit he got it wrong, or he genuinely thinks that tactic would work and that they actually played more direct. I dunno which it is, but it's getting to the stage now where he's embarrassing himself. Time to go Arsene.
The elbowing in the other hand, looks very deliberate. It's totally a case of him getting revenger for the stamp but still it shouldn't be allowed to go unpunished. I'd say two retrospective bans are coming.
Ohh and that penalty Utd got was a joke. That's the definition of the kind of soft penalty they get when they aren't winnign at OT. Yer man is in the air trying to block a ball that's 3 yards away, what is he supposed to do with his hands?
Wenger is doing his best to get himself sacked.
Resting your best player in an away game against a top four rival. Genius. Especially as you have a CL game in midweek which is the ****ing definition of 'dead rubber'. No chance Arsenal will beat Bayern by four, so they are already out. Why save your best player for a game that is already lost and forfeit 45 mins if him playing in a game that will have a big baring on whether you make the CL again? I just don't get it.
Wenger said he wanted to rest Sanchez so Arsenal "could be more direct."
Four points.
1) Since when have Arsenal played 'Direct' football! Not since ****ing. George Graham left
2) Ok, if you wanna try it, but ehhh saying you're going to do it and then NOT doing it, they didn't play any long balls at all it was the usual short passing, is ****ing daft.
3) What's wrong with telling Sanchez to be direct and just run at Liverpool's notoriously soft backline? He's pretty bloody good at that sort of thing.
4) Eehhh pretty sure everyone knows how to beat Liverpool. FFS Wolves figured it out, surely someone like Wenger should have picked up on it. You sit deep, make yourself hard to break down and catch them on the break. You know, using fast, tricky, skillful players like ooohhh Sanchez :roll:
I like Arsenal as a club, but **** me Wenger frustrates the life outta me. Either he's too stubborn to admit he got it wrong, or he genuinely thinks that tactic would work and that they actually played more direct. I dunno which it is, but it's getting to the stage now where he's embarrassing himself. Time to go Arsene.
Bizarre choice to leave Sanchez out but Arsene has a reputation for being completely deluded, he's the only person connected with Arsenal who thinks they have been genuine title challengers in the last decade. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he genuinely expects to get passed Bayern this week. Credit to Liverpool though, bossed both Spurs and Arsenal in a matter of weeks.
I thought Spurs were going to blow it against Everton yesterday, bloody lucky to come away with a win and really shouldn't have been close
I thought Spurs were going to blow it against Everton yesterday, bloody lucky to come away with a win and really shouldn't have been close
I think it's harder to call now than it was at the beginning of the season. Forgetting positions for a second and going purely on CL qualification I think City and Chelsea will get two of the spots, but god knows about the other two. United are probably least likely but at only one point behind Arsenal it's certainly not game over yet.
As Leicester proved last season and Chelsea are proving this season, the extra games are a poisoned chalice though so I'm really not bothered.
As Leicester proved last season and Chelsea are proving this season, the extra games are a poisoned chalice though so I'm really not bothered.
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It probably will be tight, but to be honest I can't see Man City missing out and I can't see Spurs not finishing in the top 4 now either. Then you have Liverpool, I really find it hard to see them blowing it as well. Out of the top 6 Arsenal and Man Utd look the least likely to finish in the top 4 IMO.
Everyone keeps saying if Chelsea win their next game then they have won the league, ok they are massive favourates. But for me it's more to do with if Man City keep winning or not. The longer the gap stays at 8 points the more the pressure will build on Chelsea and anything can happen in 11 games.
I remember Man Utd had an 8 point lead with 6 games to go and were 4-2 up at home to Everton, drew that game 4-4 and lost the league on goal difference.
Everyone keeps saying if Chelsea win their next game then they have won the league, ok they are massive favourates. But for me it's more to do with if Man City keep winning or not. The longer the gap stays at 8 points the more the pressure will build on Chelsea and anything can happen in 11 games.
I remember Man Utd had an 8 point lead with 6 games to go and were 4-2 up at home to Everton, drew that game 4-4 and lost the league on goal difference.
robpmarsh
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Any Arsenal fans in?
I'm not usually one to defend Arsenal but that red card was bizarre. It probably was a penalty and yes Arsenal should have had one before that too, but to give a player a yellow and then change it to a red is baffling, especially under the circumstances. As I've said before I think the double punishment penalty/red should only be allowed in extreme circumstances, it just kills games.
Saying that, as soon as they were down to 10 and the game was lost I think dignity should have been the instructions from the sideline, Arsene definitely cocked that up. The last few Bayern goals were comical, it was like watching a testimonial.
Saying that, as soon as they were down to 10 and the game was lost I think dignity should have been the instructions from the sideline, Arsene definitely cocked that up. The last few Bayern goals were comical, it was like watching a testimonial.
