PL 2016-2017 Thread
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Burnley performance today was great to watch, super free kick from Brady, Burnley deserved to nick it TBH. A. Chelsea with only 2 attempts on target says it all. Lot of teams would do well to take a leaf out of their book
Does the Burnley draw hold some hope for a title challenge? The lack of three points for Chelsea must have a glimmer of hope for the chasing pack... Spurs do have a run of nine winnable games ahead (so they'll draw eight and lose one), but it might not be totally over. Not sure of Arsenal or others next bunch of games.
At the other end, Leicester look to be on the greasiest slide the world has ever seen, I can't see them finishing outside of the bottom three now.
At the other end, Leicester look to be on the greasiest slide the world has ever seen, I can't see them finishing outside of the bottom three now.
I still think it's far too early to be saying anything is certain yet. With 14 games left Sunderland could mathematically win the title still! I think this weekend's results have proved just how close it is going to be. Leicester seem doomed though, how can you go 6 weeks without even scoring one goal!? Swansea looked very good against them.
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Man City move to within 8 points of Chelsea if they win at Bournemouth tonight? Still very difficult for anyone to catch Chelsea IMO, but you never no.
That Arsenal goal should never have stood, deliberate or not you can't score with your hand!!!
Leicester City are going down with Sunderland and Palace. :?
That Arsenal goal should never have stood, deliberate or not you can't score with your hand!!!
Leicester City are going down with Sunderland and Palace. :?
Richard_H
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If it didn't hit his hand it would have hit his body. He's not transparent. I could understand if his arm was sticking out to one side or something.
I think the photo from this article pretty much clears it up:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/12/alexis-sanchez-goal-against-hull-clear-handball-should-have/
If the ball doesn't hit his hand it's either going over his head or off it and over the bar. Who wants to put money on Arsenal coming second on goal difference at the end of the season :lol:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/12/alexis-sanchez-goal-against-hull-clear-handball-should-have/
If the ball doesn't hit his hand it's either going over his head or off it and over the bar. Who wants to put money on Arsenal coming second on goal difference at the end of the season :lol:
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I agree it would have gone past him but if ball to hand is not an offence then the goal correctly stands? As one of the pundits said, possibly even Curtis Davis, it's tough to take but if your team scores it then you'd celebrate, if you are on the side conceding then you'd appeal.
spoons said:For it to be handball it has to be deliberate. If that happened anywhere else on the pitch there would be no debate. Refs, pundits and players never seem to know the rules of the game - why was the ref apologising. He got it right!
From the FA
'Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.'
Mind you if the goal was against Arsenal I'd be moaning too
Totally agree that Gibbs was lucky but Arsenal were due some luck there. If that was Xhaka he would have been sent off just for looking at the player :lol:
I'm not 100% sure but I THINK, if one side gains an advantage as a result of the hand ball, ie the direction of the ball being altered, then you can call it back and give a free kick, even if it was ball to hand and totally unintentional. I could be wrong, and **** knows I've seen enough given and not given to know referees don't seem to have a consistent opinion on it.
I think it's fair to say if it goes for you, you take it and deep down know you have been a tad fortunate, and if it goes against you, you are left cursing your luck.
Richard_H
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men v boys tonight. Bye Arsene.
Packed the team with mediocre midfielders and persisting with a 'world class' midget in goal - writing was on the wall from the start.
Packed the team with mediocre midfielders and persisting with a 'world class' midget in goal - writing was on the wall from the start.
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Surely that's it for Wenger now?
And that's why I honestly couldn't care less about getting in to the Champions league. It's embarrassing for the FA. No English teams are anywhere near good enough to win it at the moment unless through blind luck like Leicester winning the title last season.
2nd or 3rd in the league, group or knock out stages in the CL, who cares it's all still losing :lol:
2nd or 3rd in the league, group or knock out stages in the CL, who cares it's all still losing :lol:
theforceuk said:
It has to be. Even an incredibly stubborn bastard like him must realise now that he is not taking the team forward in any way shape or form. Quite the opposite in fact. That was embarrassing. I'm not an Arsenal fan and I was embarrassed for them. The really sad thing is Bayern didn't even play that well. Once Koshelny went off Arsenal just imploded.
Surely someone of Wenger's experience, or someone on that Arsenal side (they do make the CL every year so it's not like they don't know anything about football) should have the wherewithal to turn round and say "ok lads, keep it tight for 10 here, just sit in and frustrate them". Break Bayern's momentum and give your new CB a chance to feel his way into the game. Clearly not.
In his post match Interview Wenger said it was hard to explain!? I'm sorry, you what now!? You mean you didn't see it coming!? Pretty sure every other football fan did!
Fairly sure if you scrolled back though this thread someone will have pointed out Arsenal's habit of beating the dross and rolling over against the big sides, only for them to then beat some more dross, Wenger to talk about mental strength and then a decent side comes along and humps them. And repeat. If it wasn't so god damn repetitive and dull it would be funny. The only way it will change is when Wenger goes. He's been there too long and passed up too many chances to try and fix it now.
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I've just heard on the radio that he's already been offered a new contract and it's still on the table!
Saw a funny post on Facebook saying it's amazing how Arsenal have managed to have the same season for 12 years in a row. :lol:
Saw a funny post on Facebook saying it's amazing how Arsenal have managed to have the same season for 12 years in a row. :lol:
theforceuk said:
Yeah, I'd heard that. Sums Arsenal up.
In their defence, a lot of clubs would be happy with CL football every year (hell, I'm a Liverpool and I'd be happy with it) but it's the fact that they never get near challenging for the thing, nor do they get near a PL title challenge. Finishing 3rd or 4th is all well and good, but when was the last time they were, realistically, still in the title race in March!?
Richard_H
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That's the problem right there.
Football board of directors run clubs like a business. Arsenal 'the brand' is very successful. As long as it continues to be as successful then their won't need to be change.
City and Chelsea are different. Money is virtually no object therefore they can drive for success every season.
Football board of directors run clubs like a business. Arsenal 'the brand' is very successful. As long as it continues to be as successful then their won't need to be change.
City and Chelsea are different. Money is virtually no object therefore they can drive for success every season.
