How do you keep your movies and have any of you had Disc Rot ?

[Pomse2001]

When I started to buy original movies and sometimes record them in the tv in 80s on VHS. In about year 2000 I choose to throw all my VHS out, but not before I recorded it all over on DVD. A few years ago I saw some spots on 1 of my original movies and on some of my disc that I have used to record on from tv. I read about it and people called it Disc Rot :shock: I have always used RW disc, so I could delete and record again and again just like VHS tapes. Later I learned after all this Disc rot that RW does only live half the time as R disc :shock: I was lucky and I could save most of the disc with rot, but I also lost a few good movies and episodes from tv series that I could not replace with danish subtitles I also learned it was only one brand so far Memorix :roll: most of my disc is philips and so far there is no rot on them. A few years ago I changed to Blu-Ray from Verbatim, I have read Blu-Ray last even longer, but then again I read on the internet about some original blu-ray movies where people allready had rot on them :shock: I know a guy who have moved all his movies to a hard drive. But that was only to get more space :lol:

I must admit I would miss the cool covers on my original DVD and Blu-Ray movies, but I have thought about the ones I have recorded in TV to move them to a hard drive. Some of my friends just say netflix etc. etc. but as I always say to them what if I want to see a movie one day that is not on netflix or any other sites. I also prefer to see movies with danish subtitles because I do not understand every english words and sometimes they talk so fast in movies so I do not understand what they say unless I have subtitles.

So how do you guys do it ? How do you guys keep your movies and have any of you had Disc Rot ?

 

[Clarkspie&chips]

Anything I own that's unique, like camcorder vids or rips from old vhs is saved on my hard drive and a back up drive.
That stuff is one of a kind so I won't take any chances of losing it.

 

[Pomse2001]

Anything I own that's unique, like camcorder vids or rips from old vhs is saved on my hard drive and a back up drive.
That stuff is one of a kind so I won't take any chances of losing it.

Thanks mate, also an idea I have thought about, hard drive and a back up drive.

How do you then see it if you add it to a hard drive. Do you just add the hard drive with a usb to your tv ? I have never tried this before

 

[Clarkspie&chips]

How do you then see it if you add it to a hard drive. Do you just add the hard drive with a usb to your tv ? I have never tried this before

Yep that's it! Easy peasy if you've got a modern telly.

 

[Pomse2001]

How do you then see it if you add it to a hard drive. Do you just add the hard drive with a usb to your tv ? I have never tried this before

Yep that's it! Easy peasy if you've got a modern telly.

Thanks, it is not new. But there is a USB port on the TV.

 

[stormcab]

Anything I own that's unique, like camcorder vids or rips from old vhs is saved on my hard drive and a back up drive.
That stuff is one of a kind so I won't take any chances of losing it.

A DVD recorder is good. Then you can just plug a camcorder or VHS player in and record digitally in one quick step. Then easy to rip onto PC and stored forever. I have 2 4TB drives. One is a clone of the first, and I keep it at my Uncle's. So if I have a fire, it's all backed up off site. Files are very unlikely to fail. I can still open files from college 20 years ago. As long as it's digital you'll always be able to view it.

 

[theforceuk]

I just keep mine in their cases, never had any problems.

 

[Pomse2001]

Anything I own that's unique, like camcorder vids or rips from old vhs is saved on my hard drive and a back up drive.
That stuff is one of a kind so I won't take any chances of losing it.

A DVD recorder is good. Then you can just plug a camcorder or VHS player in and record digitally in one quick step. Then easy to rip onto PC and stored forever. I have 2 4TB drives. One is a clone of the first, and I keep it at my Uncle's. So if I have a fire, it's all backed up off site. Files are very unlikely to fail. I can still open files from college 20 years ago. As long as it's digital you'll always be able to view it.

Thanks, sounds like a good idea with 2 drives, where one is the clone of the first and I should keep one at another persons house if I have a fire or maybe a break-in where they will steal a drive just to sell it for money.

My blu-Ray recorder can't use so big drives even 1 TB is to big it says :shock: But i have read something about maybe I can add it to the TV :?

 

[Pomse2001]

I just keep mine in their cases, never had any problems.

if you talk about original dvd movies cases, then I have heard something about some cases are made of bad plastic that makes some kind of gas that makes damage to a DVD disc, there can go years before you can see the damage. It starts with small black spots on the disc or a fog all over the reading side of the dvd. You can remove the fog if you clean the dvd but not the black spots, that is disc rot.

I have heard if you move your finger up and down on the cases and can see on the cases where your finger have been on it, then they are made of bad plastic that can damage your dvd disc, but I can't confirm if it correct :? Also some times when you buy a dvd in a black case then you can see some spots inside the black case that can look like oily, I have also heard that is also cases made of bad plastic :?

Most of this type of boxes can you see where your fingers have been.

Most of this type of boxes can you see where your fingers have been, but you can also find them with oily spots inside the box and if you remove the spots with a cloth then the spot sometimes come back a few weeks later.

This type of case have I not seen or heard anything bad about

 

[theforceuk]

Never new that Lars, interesting. None of mine are faulty, that said some I probably haven't watched for 10 - 15 years. :?

 

[edd_jedi]

Writeable optical media (CD-R, DVD-R etc) are sadly a terrible way of storing data. They can start to degrage after only a few years. I have lost irreplaceable files on burned discs only a few years old. I now keep all of my music/films/CDs etc on hard disks or in cloud storage.

 

[Pomse2001]

Never new that Lars, interesting. None of mine are faulty, that said some I probably haven't watched for 10 - 15 years. :?

The same here, I also have movies that I have not seen 10 or 15 years, so I have to check my dvd for damage and the boxes. The last couple of years I have bought DVD movies on garage sales and there I have seen this spots on the boxes and rot on a dvd and also the fog on the dvd.

If I find some with the spots or rot again then I will take some pictures of it and add to the thread.

Maybe you should check your dvd movies :wink:

 

[Pomse2001]

Writeable optical media (CD-R, DVD-R etc) are sadly a terrible way of storing data. They can start to degrage after only a few years. I have lost irreplaceable files on burned discs only a few years old. I now keep all of my music/films/CDs etc on hard disks or in cloud storage.

most of mine are on DVD-RW i have heard they only last up to 20 years and DVD-R should last up to 40 years. But then again as you write they can start to degrage after a few years, maybe it is also the quality or the brand :? so far it is only my memorix DVD-RW that I have problems with, my philips does not have the same problems yet.

Great to know you also keep them on hard disk or in the cloud storage, I have never thought about the cloud. Is the cloud safe ? I think what if the company in the cloud go bankruptcy or they lose your items in the cloud can you then get it back ? and is it something you have to pay for every month or every year to use ? :?

 

[Pomse2001]

Can I use any drives for my movies on the tv or is it special drives that I need ? :?

 

[Mini99]

Can I use any drives for my movies on the tv or is it special drives that I need ? :?

Have a look at the TV spec's to see what it will accept, I believe that sometimes the size of the drive can be an issue on older tv's.

 

[Pomse2001]

Can I use any drives for my movies on the tv or is it special drives that I need ? :?

Have a look at the TV spec's to see what it will accept, I believe that sometimes the size of the drive can be an issue on older tv's.

It does not write anything about size but it write that I can see movies on it from a hard drive :?

 

[Pomse2001]

Any idea about how to rip a dvd or a blu-ray disc and get the same quality from the disc on a harddisk ?

I have heard some say MKV format is the best others say MP4 :?

 

[peekaygee73]

I use MakeMKV

https://www.makemkv.com

The beta version is free (and has been for a while). It's got a simple interface and converts DVDs and Blurays quickly.

 

[Pomse2001]

I use MakeMKV

https://www.makemkv.com

The beta version is free (and has been for a while). It's got a simple interface and converts DVDs and Blurays quickly.

Thanks mate for the info so mkv is the best ? :?

 

[peekaygee73]

I use MakeMKV

https://www.makemkv.com

The beta version is free (and has been for a while). It's got a simple interface and converts DVDs and Blurays quickly.

Thanks mate for the info so mkv is the best ? :?

Personally I prefer MKV, but that's because it'd much more flexible than MP4 and has more features.

You'll find MP4 is supported by more devices than MKV, but MKV has more features and supports more codecs. MKV isn't really an industry standard though, so you might want to check your TV can actually play it before creating too many (most TVs should support MKV, so hopefully it won't be a problem for you).