Section 8 said:
Could the odd long ball be any worse than watching us meaninglessly pass it back and forth in front of the opposition defence with no clue or guile to break even the shittest defences down. Our tournament was crying out for us to get the ball forward quicker, but the same old slow predictable passing patterns emerged. We managed a massive 4 goals in 4 games against top teams like Wales, Russia, Slovakia and Iceland.
There is a MASSIVE difference between getting the ball forward quicker (which, i agree England needed to do) and the horrible long ball shite Fat Sam plays. The Utd team of Giggs and Beckham got the ball forward quickly, but they didn't play long ball. Ditto the Liverpool side of Sturridge and Suarez. In fact the latter is probably a superb example of fast, bloody effective, counter attacking. THE ONLY tactic Sam knows is hoof long balls at a big target man and pick up the pieces. Now, I admit there is a time when that is an effective tactic. It's something England could have done in the last 15 against Iceland, BUT it should never be your default tactic from minute 1.
Section 8 said:
Leicester won the league playing a mix of passing and direct balls and they can hardly be slated for not playing good to watch effective football. Give the guy a chance as he will have better players at his disposal rather than your run of the mill mid table, relegation avoiding average joes.
Eehhhhh, did you watch Leicester last year? It was effective, but I don't recall anyone EVER saying it as good to watch. Quite the opposite. They got results but by god they were awful to watch.
peekaygee73 said:
I'm not a fan of Allardyce at all, but who should they have appointed? I think I'd like to have seen Hoddle with a decent backroom staff (and, more importantly, someone who's decent at man-management), but even then I'm not sure that would've gone well. Other than that I really can't think of anyone - it says it all when people are talking seriously about Steve ****ing Bruce getting the job. :shock:
Hoddle could never have got the job. You can't sack a man for his comments about disabled people and then ten years later after he has done literally nothing in management, come back and reappoint him. Ignoring his lack of managerial experience in the last ten years, given how overly PC the world has become there was no way the FA could appoint anyone who has openly stated he thinks disabled people are paying the price for sins in a previous life.
I do agree the pool of potential English managers was minuscule. The best appointment would probably have been Eddie Howe, but it's far too early for him. But why not try a non English manager. Cut the Xenophobic BS and appoint someone who wasn't born in England. Not as if English mangers have a good record in the ENGLISH PL. It's NEVER been won by an English manager. That speaks for itself. Ohh and before anyone harps up with "that's cos of all the foreign managers in the PL now." There weren't that many when it started and the English managers still struggled.
peekaygee73 said:
The England job's a poison chalice more than ever these days.
True dat. Mainly it's due to the media and the muppets like Shearer and Ian (never) Wright. They hype England up before every tournament, talking about how they could win it and how many "world class" players they have. When in fact you have a long shot, at best, and if you're lucky 2 players who would make the team of the eventual winners. Yet EVERY SINGLE ****ING TOURNAMENT it's the same "we can win it, no one will wanna play England with X,Y,Z in the team, we're one of the teams to avoid." ****ing wise up.
Then when you don't win it, those same media pundits turn round and slate everyone involved, the manger is suddenly a Wally with a brolly, a Swede etc and the players are all over paid, over pampered, spoilt brats who don't care about their country blah blah blah.
I don't remember England winning anything when Shearer or Wright played, but you listen to them and you'd think they had a collection of World Cup winners medals at home.
Shearer even had the nerve to say that no one in the FA had asked him for his opinions. Why the **** would they Alan? You won nothing as a player for England, won 1 PL title 20 years ago (football has change a bit since then Alan) and your record as a manager is beyond pathetic. Do you want the FA to ask every single ex England international? Or every player whoever won a PL title? Maybe they could ask anyone who the World Cup on Championship Manager?
Watch in two years when England get humped how quickly Shearer and Wright turn round and castigate the FA for not appointing the most qualified candidate/chasing Wenger or some other foreign coach. Conveniently forgetting it was THEY who led the calls to appoint someone based purely on their nationality.
Sorry, but when you allow xenophobic barely literate retards to dictate the criteria for appointing your next manager, you get exactly what you deserve. A retard.
Can you tell i'm not impressed by this appointment and don't like Shearer and Wright? Lol
