Comprehensive Guide to Baggies

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IG88

Palitoy-i - photo Courtesy of momike OPEN/NEVER SEALED & being included as these have been confirmed from woolies 99p 8 packs

Palitoy-u - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer NOTE the weapons error - packed with a bespin blaster

Euro-e/B - has to date been found in this baggie with Hong Kong & No COO

ESB-b - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Chris Fawcett this is for me a huge find & a most thankful ease after wanting conformation for years of this baggie, it was speculated that IG88 was also found in this baggie type in the special offer bounty hunters Darth Vader carry case, but till now no conformation, very good to lay this one to rest, But (always a but ain't there) it has now also been confirmed that although this baggie type is specific solely to that special offer bounty hunter edition Darth Vader case, it was not always all 3 figures in this baggie, with ESB-a type also confirmed found in one (Bossk), so with a few fett's having turned up as well as a few Bossk's, so maybe if several of the cases turned up with IGGY in an ESB-a baggie it would make more sense why we never ever seen them come up for sale, this is the first & only confirmed example I have ever seen of this baggie/figure combo, please also see the Special Offer Vehicles & Playsets section (Page 7) for further photos showing all 3 baggies in the case.

Sorry the above reads a little disjointed/confusing I know, so in a nutshell, the bounty hunter vader case is know with all ESB-b baggies, but has also been found with both Bossk & IG88 in ESB-a 1st issue baggies.

ESB-c - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-d

ESB-a 1st issue -Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-e this one is likely as rare if not rarer than the ESB-b

ESB-h - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

 

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Post No - 42

Imperial Commander

Palitoy-a

Palitoy-i PHOTO COURTESY OF DEL

Palitoy-u - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer

EURO-a PHOTO COURTESY OF DEL

Euro-e/A

ESB-a

ESB-c

ROTJ-i

 

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Imperial Hoth Stormtrooper

Palitoy-a

Palitoy-i (open baggie) - photo Courtesy of momike, including this open (never taped) example as they have been confirmed in woolies 99p 8 packs

Euro-a & to date only the 2nd example to have ever been seen, the other is shown in the pre production section as it is one from the find in the 90's with all Q.C sign off card, Courtesy of Dorothée Drouin Franck Gada

Euro-d YPS exclusive (Black G.I.Joe gun) only 2 examples of this baggie have ever been confirmed, as the figure usually came in a paper bag or loose, the figure (loose) was also issued with the standard rifle, but both bagged examples have been with the G.I Joe gun, both reside in black hole collections.

SW-a - Small font

ESB-a - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-c

ESB-d (popy)

ESB-g small font

 

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Post No - 44

Jawa - this ones for you Ed (if you ever come back ) - we miss you!

Palitoy-a

Palitoy-d

Palitoy-i

SW-a - Small font - PHOTO COURTESY OF Andy Clarke, from what we know this baggie was specific to just the Palitoy issue Land of the Jawa's play set & is a very very tough baggie to find, in fact the hardest of all the Jawa baggies to lock down, even I've never managed to find a sealed example to add to the collection, this fact makes me always question the Canadian issued Special Offer Sandcrawler as at lest 2 examples have surfaced with 2 Jawa's in SW-a baggies, the Canadian collectors are 100% convinced that it was only ever issued with GDE 20 back MOC's & the baggies are substitutes, but with the insane rarity of the Jawa in SW-a (likely just as hard to find as a GDE 2 back) it makes me question if indeed GDE at some point had order shortfalls & they could have been issued with the set?? I guess we will never know for sure & it's a subject of divided opinion.

SW-b

SW-d - Small font

SW-f

ESB-c - Small Font

ESB-c - Large Font - all the VCB baggies are considered to be FAKE, but I am showing the examples here that have turned up over the years just for curiosity sake in case one day we ever know more, the only real likelyhood of them being confirmed would be from a sealed "we really do care" replacement.

ESB-c Vinyl cape - UNCONFIRMED & AWAITING AFA APPROVAL EDIT 20/9/15 I never heard anything back, so assume AFA never graded or authenticated this, TBH I am 99% sure this is not a legitimate baggie as it would have (IMO) been found in a SW issue baggie if ever released, but we will see what AFA have to say about it. EDIT 20/09/15- I have now seen a 2nd example of this baggie & got some back story regarding it, as the story goes, a kid got a jawa (cloth cape) on a carded figure, there was some kind of defect with the figure, so the father sent a letter to Kenner, they then sent out a replacement for the son & when it turned up it was a VCJ n an ESB-c baggie, the kid was very upset as it had (a shitty plastic cape) & never even opened it, the figure was then placed in a draw unopened & left, Now I can not confirm its legitimacy, but it's a very plausible story, Kenner using overstock to send out as replacements, this would also tie in the figure being issued in a later ESB era baggie type, but REMEMBER - this can not be confirmed so as before it is pure speculation, though very exciting speculation - 2 more examples found, though no closer to finding out if they are real or fake, but assume fake unless we get some provenance, at least we have images we can actually see now after that tiny image for all these years lol I think we can quite safely say the final pic is of a fake as it's ESB-d & just look at that cape

ESB-d

ROTJ-j

Lots more great & detailed info on Jawa's can be found here - http://madbrownz.blogspot.co.uk/p/blog-page.html

 

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Post No - 45

Klaatu - The Green goblin :lol:

Palitoy-a - Brown Fur

Palitoy-b - White Fur, note the bag within the baggie to protect the skirt, only fond in a few baggie types - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

Palitoy-n - Brown fur

Palitoy-u - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer Brown Fur

Euro-a - Brown Fur & skirt baggie protection

ESB-c - Brown Fur

ESB-h - White Fur

Kenner Internal PHOTO COURTESY OF Gary Borbidge Brown fur (I think) This one came in the same batch as all the other Kenner internal baggies, but had an elastic band securing it, I presume the tape gave way at some point & was replaced with the band, dam shame, but is identical to the other internal baggies, so I felt it worthy of inclusion as its obviously genuine.

 

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Post No - 46

Klaatu Skiff

Palitoy-a

Palitoy-i - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

Euro-a - Meccano red sticker (free figure offer)

ESB-d

 

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Post No - 47

Lando Skiff

Palitoy-a

Palitoy-b photo Courtes of momike

Palitoy-n

Euro-h

ESB-c

ESB-h - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ROTJ-e - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

Kenner internal V1

 

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Post No - 48

Lando Bespin

Palitoy-a- teeth - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Snaggletooth

Palitoy-u - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer

Euro-b teeth

Euro-b teeth - same as above, but with the inclusion of the Meccano red sticker (free figure offer)

ESB-c - No Teeth

ESB-c Teeth

ESB-d Teeth - I (think) both ESB-c & d versions have been found with & without smile/teeth examples from memory

ESB-h No Teeth

 

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Post No - 49

Leai Bespin

Palitoy-a PHOTO COURTESY OF DEL

Palitoy-i (open bag & Turtleneck) PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe Under normal circumstances I do NOT include open baggies in the guide, BUT due to the fact that these Palitoy-i's have been encountered on numerous occasions in this fashion, both on their own with mint figures & accessories as well as no tape residue on the baggies whatsoever & also in sealed woolies 8 packs, I have to assume that they were found both open & in tape sealed formats.

Palitoy-q PHOTO COURTESY OF -Laurence Dyer Error baggie - unpainted foot & also the worlds only confirmed example which traces directly back to Palitoy (3p0 case find)

SW-a - Small font - PHOTO COURTESY OF psybertech This is a very very rare baggie indeed having come only in the ESB figure stand mock up & to date from what I know one of 2 examples know.

Another SW-a - Small font - example, but I am waiting for info on this as it looks like it may have a different family figure in, EDIT 20/9/15 - confirmed different family.

ESB-a - 1st issue (Turtle Neck) - considered a very rare baggie, only ever having been found in one 4 figure MP

ESB-c - Flesh Neck - alternate face sculpt (the fugly one) - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

Excellent guide for the figure can be found here - http://leia.bespin.info/

 

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Post No - 50

Leia Boushh - this one's for you Dennis!

Palitoy-p

Euro-a - Photo courtesy of cantina_patron

Euro-a - same as above, but with the inclusion of the Meccano red sticker (free figure offer) & also a paint applications error figure (unpainted right thigh)

ESB-d - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-h

ROTJ-a

ROTJ-e

ROTJ-h note the second inner baggie for the helmet, only a couple of baggies types came with it - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

 

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Post No - 51

Leia Hoth

Palitoy-l - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer

ESB-a

ESB-c

 

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Post No - 52

Leia Organa

Palitoy-b

SW-a -Small Font

SW-b - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

SW-c

SW-d - Large font

SW-d Small font - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

SW-f

ESB-a - 1st issue

ESB-c

ESB-h / B (narrow Version) & specific to the Wards/Penney/Spiegel- 1982 - 48-62352 - 655-1642 - 57-6253 pack, though seems narrow than a normal ESB-h baggie same as the han from the same pack, Photo Courtesy of Andy Raymond.

 

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Post No - 53

Leia Poncho/Endor

Palitoy-i (open bag) PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe Under normal circumstances I do NOT include open baggies in the guide, BUT due to the fact that these Palitoy-i's have been encountered on numerous occasions in this fashion, both on their own with mint figures & accessories as well as no tape residue on the baggies whatsoever & also in sealed woolies 8 packs, I have to assume that they were found both open & in tape sealed formats.

Palitoy-f Type

Palitoy-f Type B - (reclassification) Same as the ROTJ-j - (woolies 8 pack) but examples have been found open / taped & even stapled, so not technically a ROTJ-j even though the top seal & font are identical, as this was only issued via palitoy, this is a baggie type that till this day I have not created a classification for what with it's multiple incarnations as well as it being identical bar the heat seal to it's kenner counterpart, also found in the endor chase set

Much better image of the above baggie (Palitoy-f Type B) - photo Courtesy of momike - Please see the non kenner guide for further info regarding this one here -

Non Kenner Baggie basic Guide

Please bear in mind that the below rough guide is all my opinion only & put together from many years of cross referencing the baggies I have added to my own collection & had the opportunity to inspect closely. All are Heat Sealed unless otherwise stated. PLEASE NOTE VERY IMPORTANT - ALL BAGGIE...

www.starwarsforum.co.uk

ESB-c

ESB-i

 

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Post No - 54

Lobot This ones for you Mark

Palitoy-a Note the font on this one, it's a well known variation, it is Palitoy-a but as you can see the font is a lot lighter in colour than usual as well as being much finer, another little quandary & something to deal with in future in terms of sub classification / minor variations

Palitoy-k font type B (ex palitoy-p - see non kenner guide) - PHOTO COURTESY OF Laurence Dyer

ESB-c - Small Font

ESB-c - Both White Arms - Small Font

ESB-d - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

 

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Post No - 55

Logray

Palitoy-a photo Courtesy of momike

Palitoy-k - Type A

Euro-i - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-a -1st issue

ESB-h Photo Courtesy of Jake Neilheisel

ROTJ-d - Weapon packed upright

ROTJ-d - With Weapon Packed facing down - Note that this baggie is found with & without the weapon in the baggie as it was found to split the bags, so later example came with the weapon separately, see below -

ROTJ-d - No Weapon

ROTJ-d No Weapon in bag but weapon taped to back of bag - a new one on me, but 100% authentic as it came with a multi pack, god there are too many variations on this baggie & I hate Ewoks :lol:

ROTJ-e

Kenner internal V2

Lili Leddy

 

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Post No - 56

Luke Bespin - This ones going out to you June

Palitoy-a - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer

Palitoy-b

Palitoy-m - I am presuming this is a Palitoy-m baggie that is faded out from dark blue/purple to light blue, but I have my reservations, though the material type & heat seals match, so for now I will class these as m's EDIT - 20/9/15 - seen enough like this now to confirm my suspicions, so indeed a faded Palitoy-m baggie

Palitoy-q NOT IMO Kenner ROTJ-g that they are commonly mistaken for, as most have turned up in the UK & Europe (in fairly large numbers) & the font is a clearly a lot thicker than their Kenner ROTJ-g counterpart, none of these have ever been found in any Kenner issued MP's or other items like the special offers - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

Euro-e/B - Photo courtesy of Scott (snaggletooth)

SW-a - Small text - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-a - 1st issue (Brown Hair)

ESB-a - 1st issue (Blonde Hair) - Photo Courtesy of Sven Schneider

ESB-c - small font (Blonde Hair) - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-d - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

 

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Post No - 57

Luke Farm Boy

Although to date I sadly have no DT example to add to this post (god aren't they expensive) EDIT 5/1/16 DT examples added, it is worth noting that it has been found in both SW-a / SW-c / SW-d & SW-f baggies to date, much confusion why it would have been in a Palitoy-k baggies as the DT figures were never offered in the UK, that mystery has finally been resolved due to a new Kenner baggie classification (SW-f) - please see the new Kenner baggie guide linked on the first post of the guide

Palitoy-l (Dark Brown Hair) note the brighter/darker pink flesh tone on the palitoy version, this is the only know example of this one to date & traces back to a former Palitoy employee I purchased it from directly in my first ever lot of baggies, one of the baggies that got me started on this now long & epic Journey, this is right up there in terms of holy grail's IMO

SW-a (Non DT Version) & Large Text version - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

SW-a (Non DT Version) Small Text version

SW-b

SW-d Large Font

SW-c

SW-f - Photo Courtesy of ALEX PARDI - (DT Version),this can be found with both DT & Non DT saber - see below for non DT

SW-f - Photo courtesy of Gary Borbidge (non DT version)

SW-G which can be found in both DT & Non DT variants - PHOTO FROM GOOGLE IMAGES

ESB-a - 1st issue

ESB-a - 2nd issue (Light Brown Hair)

ESB-c (Dark Brown Hair), NOTE that this baggies has been encounter'd a few times but has never been documented in any MP's or other istems, it is unclear at this time if these are authentic or not, but should be regarded as "questionable"

ESB-c Blonde - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-c Light brown hair Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-g

ESB-h / B (narrow Version) dark brown hair, this being specific to the Wards/Penney/Spiegel- 1982 - 48-62352 - 655-1642 - 57-6253 pack as far as we know, Photo Courtesy of Andy Raymond

ROTJ-a

ROTJ-g PHOTO COURTESY OF SHANE CARTER

ROTJ-i

 

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Post No - 58

Luke Hoth

Palitoy-b - Note that the figure is not discolored in the palitoy baggie, so the material must be of a different type than its Kenner alternative which is almost always found with discoloured limbs?

Palitoy-i - I could use a better photo if anyone has one please, image cropped from a Hoth Rescue play pack, these Palitoy-i's have only been found in the Hoth rescue POTF sets & are always open ended (unsealed)

Palitoy-u Hath Rescue Pack no text baggie - thin very soft material

Euro-a / meccano - red sticker (free figure offer)

ESB-d & to date the only Kenner baggie I have ever seen this figure in, also worth noting that this is IMO the one of the 2 most discolored figures found in baggies as the white in the arms & legs seems to react badly with the baggie, its very hard to find a nice white example, same think with several of the stormtrooper baggies that has a secondary baggie for the weapons included.

 

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Post No - 59

Luke Jedi - This one's for you Shawn & Craig G

Palitoy-a

Palitoy-a /Meccano - same as above, but with the inclusion of the Meccano red sticker (free figure offer)

Palitoy-i - photo Courtesy of momike, OPEN/NEVER SEALED including this open example as they have been confirmed in woolies 99p 8 packs

ESB-d - Blue Saber - tough to find with the Blue Saber, be cautious when considering buying one as many have been faked of late, often the green saber is removed & replaced with a blue through the factory vent holes, this is very obvious if you know what to look for as it widens the vent hole opening significantly, note the size of the vent hole on this confirmed authentic example.

Found in 2 MP's both of which can be found with both versions (blue saber & green saber baggies)

ESB-d with the Green Saber - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-h

ESB-h - Weapons Error, rather an interesting one this, with not just one extra weapon but both saber & palace blaster duplicated in the baggie, photo provided by someone a while back, sadly I can't remember by whom - please get in touch if you would like crediting for the inclusion of the image

ROTJ-a - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ROTJ-h

Kenner internal V2

 

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Post No - 60

Luke X-Wing

Palitoy-(unconfirmed) PHOTO COURTESY OF MARC CARAWAY

Palitoy-q

SW-d - Small font

ESB-a - 1st issue

ESB-c - Small Font

ESB-g - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo

ESB-h

ESB-i Photo Courtesy of Jake Neilheisel

ROTJ-g

ROTJ-i - Photo Courtesy of Andrew Neo