Will the UK leave the EU ?

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I have to say that I am gutted about the result that we got but honestly don't think a petition will help in the slightest

We know that 48% of the people in this country (that voted) didn't want this but even if all of them sign the petition then we know what they wanted anyway. People are disillusioned enough with politics without having the one result that they honestly thought they would make a difference in taken away from them. The leavers came from a wide spectrum of society and although there was certainly a racist / xenophobic undercurrent, it is wrong to say that everyone was voting because of that

The fault lies with all of us that are now wise after the event - if we felt so strongly about remaining then it was our job to convince others around us - we, a bit like the remain camp, didn't do that and now have to face the consequence
 
SAVORY100 said:
Anyway in a slightly different turn of events:

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/25/petit...ts-1-million-signatures-5965795/?ito=facebook

Most popular petition in UK history is underway. Might make things interesting...
I voted Remain, and the result yesterday really got me down, but it's got to the stage where I think the country gets what it deserves.

If some people are stupid enough to listen to politicians without doing research then whinge about not realising what they'd voted for the day after, then it's just tough. Perhaps people will start paying more attention and thinking for themselves.
 
I really don't know what to say. I am shocked that people voted to leave and amazed that shortsightedness of that decision.

For those that voted on the grounds of immigration alone you've been led up the garden path if you think leaving the EU will change that. At the end of the day without being part of the EU free trade zone the UK economy is goosed and the people in Brussles know that, they also know that without the UK allowing free movement it puts undue pressure on their own economies so take one guess what the EU will demand of the U.K. To keep its favourable trade deals...yes that's the one, freedom of movement, along with half a hundred bits of legislation.

You might say, so what? Screw Europe we don't need them... But we do, not only are they are biggest trading partner, but all the US and Global banks that have the headquarters in the UK because of friendly access to the single market. Take that away and you wipe out a healthy percent of the nations economy, wow, that's a good idea. But that's ok because house prices will fall and small business will be less constricted, only so what. With the majority of the nations wealth gone, no one will be able to afford houses and services because they will be out of work.... See the problem.

A vote to leave Europe was really a vote to wipe out half the uk wealth.

When something is broken, and the EU is certainly that, you don't stick two fingers up at it and run away like a petulant child, you work for reform and change from within, you simply can't change something when you aren't part of the conversation and right now the only conversation going on is how to kick the UK out of Europe quickly, a conversation the UK aren't invited to.

People voted to leave Europe and now watch as major business vote to leave the UK and we are plunged into a recession once more, only this time no one will be around to help. Very sad.
 
peekaygee73 said:
SAVORY100 said:
it's got to the stage where I think the country gets what it deserves.

I too have that opinion. We are clearly a country that is far more right wing, selfish, and inward thinking than ever expected. It a shame a massive amount of people have to be subject to the repercussions of such a wave of exclusive thinking.

I do think remain would win a 2nd referendum which makes the whole situation a farce and a false result.


PS: 2nd referendum petition is at 2 million already. Amazing amount. People are clearly worried.
 
Section 8 said:
peekaygee73 said:
SAVORY100 said:
it's got to the stage where I think the country gets what it deserves.

I too have that opinion. We are clearly a country that is far more right wing, selfish, and inward thinking than ever expected. It a shame a massive amount of people have to be subject to the repercussions of such a wave of exclusive thinking.

I do think remain would win a 2nd referendum which makes the whole situation a farce and a false result.


PS: 2nd referendum petition is at 2 million already. Amazing amount. People are clearly worried.

Try not to let it get you down to much I mean you sound really upset by the result, but whats done is done there will be no 2nd referendum regardless of the petition so I think everyone just needs to accept it and move on.

Also you can not label everyone who voted OUT me included as selfish and right wing as we were entitled to our vote just as you were yours..
 
We have just handed all of our laws to the Tory far right.

Delivered and served by the people most likely to be affected by their draconian policies.

And they did it on a pack of lies.

****ing depressed.

The issue was bipartisan and for those that thought they were giving it to the bankers and politicians. Its the wrong interpretation. Our future has been destroyed.

I'm Welsh, British, European.

I'd like to be middle-easturn, Asian, African and all the others, but really my values, laws, morality and ethics are Welsh, British and European.

Its good to travel.
 
Day 1:

1. Nigel Farage went on the tele and retracted the (false) claim that we send £350 million per week to the EU that would now be re-directed to the NHS and said Vote Leave should never have made that commitment to voters in the first place. Yesterday, this commitment was on the side of Vote Leave busses across the country. Exit polling indicates additional funding for the NHS was cited as a reason for leaving by nearly 80% of leave voters.

2. Daniel Hannan MEP retracted the (false) claim that leaving the EU will lead to drastically reduced immigration into Britain. Exit polling indicates this was the second most cited reason voters gave for leaving the EU. Would have been nice if Vote Leave had bothered to be honest with voters about both of these matters before today.

3. S&P, the only rating agency still giving the UK a AAA credit rating, confirms it has placed that rating under review for downgrade. It appears a downgrade is much more likely than not. Borrowing costs to fund Britain's large deficit are set to increase markedly.

4. Sterling collapsed to its lowest level against the USD in three decades, the biggest single day drop in the history of the currency. It is the third biggest single day drop in any currency ever. It is currently $1.36, down an incredible 13 cents against the dollar in less than 24 hours from a high of $1.49 yesterday.

5. Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland's first minister, has said a second independence referendum is "highly likely". Scots will likely vote on dismembering the United Kingdom in the next few years, which will fuel uncertainty and economic turmoil.

6. Sinn Fein and various others in Northern Ireland call for a border poll on reunification.

7. Spain calls for co-sovereignty over Gibraltar.

8. More than £1.5 trillion in wealth was wiped out across global markets in just a few hours this morning, the single greatest wealth destroying event in stock market history. That's 187 years' worth of British contributions to the EU. Seems worth it to get that money back from Brussels though.

9. The FTSE 100 (largely multinationals) fell more than 8% and the FTSE 250 (which reflects mostly British firms rather than multinationals) fell more than 12%. Both steadied after Mark Carney declared that the Bank of England would not hesitate to intervene to instil stability, the same sort of intervention that Mario Draghi had to make to save the Euro during the Greek crisis and that the G7 had to make to save the global economy after the collapse of Lehman. Brexit is an event that ranks alongside those crises in terms of effects on global markets.

10. Ultimately, the FTSE 100 finished down 3% and the FTSE 250 down 7%. Hundreds of billions of pounds has been wiped off people's ISAs and pension funds. Banks in particular have been hammered.

11. David Cameron resigned without mapping out any plan for implementing the results of the referendum. Boris Johnson is odds on favourite to be our next Prime Minister. In October.

12. Labour MPs have moved for a vote of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn which will be considered by the party on Monday.

13. The presidents of the European Council, Commission and Parliament told us to invoke Article 50 and leave as soon as possible and the settlement negotiated by David Cameron earlier this year is now void.

14. Nigel Farage claimed that independence was achieved "without a single bullet being fired", just one week after Jo Cox was murdered on the street in broad daylight. With a gun.

15. Numerous reports of immigrants, and native Britons who happen to be brown, being told to "go back home" in the street and on the Tube, the vote to leave apparently having been taken by some as an indication that most of the country now thinks this sort of thing is acceptable, rather than profoundly un-British and utterly awful.
 
and finally.

The NHS is paid for by tax. If you want to make someone pay, go after the fecking tax dodgers!

See ASDA, E.On and Barcleys etc....

http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ethicalcampaigns/taxjusticecampaign/taxavoidancerankings.aspx
 
Saw a story about Polish people being told they are vermin tonight on the news.. :cry:
 
i must apologise to all the remain guys as i've helped **** our country by voting out!
Love all the negative comments about Boris also, he is actually a very intelligent buffoon!
 
Its ****ing awful. I wouldn't mind finding out what others think, but that was the worse cinema outing since Batman and Robin. We did laugh all the way home though, heckling the **** out of it.

I don't know where to start :? :lol:
 
Grant_C said:
Its ****ing awful. I wouldn't mind finding out what others think, but that was the worse cinema outing since Batman and Robin. We did laugh all the way home though, heckling the **** out of it.

I don't know where to start :? :lol:

:lol: :lol: Batman and Robin.. I'll have nightmares tonight now you have mentioned that. :?
 
Basically anyone in a top EU job who is British is going to leave and get a better job abroad, for two reasons.

Reason 1 - They were passionate about bringing Europe together.

Reason 2 - Money talks and our currency will take years to recover fully.
 
What would happen if vote was:

15,000000 vs 15,000001

Would that still mean we knock the cards over?
 
skywalker said:
Try not to let it get you down to much I mean you sound really upset by the result, but whats done is done there will be no 2nd referendum regardless of the petition so I think everyone just needs to accept it and move on.

Also you can not label everyone who voted OUT me included as selfish and right wing as we were entitled to our vote just as you were yours..
Genuine question - what was it that made you vote out?

It's 48 hours since the decision became official. For many of us it's not as straightforward as 'accept it and move on'. This is seismic and there are so, so many unknowns that the ramifications of this are going to be felt for at least the next 5-10 years.
 
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