Upcoming Vectis auction/toy shop find

Auctions by their nature are a gamble. Many, many times I have seen auction houses advertise lots as being 'unique' or 'only one known' for more to turn up not long after the auction. In this particular situation I feel that Vectis have acted incorrectly to the detriment of collectors and especially the vendor of the 24th auction.
 
OTB Records said:
Auctions by their nature are a gamble. Many, many times I have seen auction houses advertise lots as being 'unique' or 'only one known' for more to turn up not long after the auction. In this particular situation I feel that Vectis have acted incorrectly to the detriment of collectors and especially the vendor of the 24th auction.

I think where Vectis got it wrong was by putting silly high estimates on some items that were unrealistic and raising expectations. I think the auctions went better than I expected and I believe the rumours wouldn't have affected the prices. Remember the bids could have been left long before the rumours surfaced. But I agree Vectis should provide better information at the right time , which is now please.
 
It wasn't vague. I just disagree with you.

I really don't think it made the slightest difference.

I gatee though that vague info from an auction house doesn't seem professional though.
 
had nobody seen the ex palitoy rep (82) from Essex
selling his collection with vectis? two garages full of
stuff but the artical is just about action man at the moment! :eek:
 
Please forgive me if I have got the situation wrong but this is how I am reading it:

1. Vectis take a wonderful collection of figures from a vendor and promote them with great vigour.
2. Vectis go to great lengths to promote the rarity of the Palitoy Fett. It makes a lot of money - good for the vendor and Vectis.
3: The vendors pieces were split into two auctions with a dedicated Palitoy sale being held on 24 February 2015.
4: Shortly before the 24th auction Vectis announce that they have discovered a full rep's box of factory fresh figures intimating that they are all on Palitoy cards.

If the above is correct then I feel personally that Vectis have made a great error in their actions as described in point 4. Why do this? What good can come of it especially for the vendor of the 24th auction?
 
Maybe I'm not being clear. I'm not disagreeing that vectis have been wrong in what they have done as you stated above.

However I do not believe that it has had any effect on the auction that took place earlier this week. The fact that they did not meet estimates in many cases is more an indication that the estimates were too high, not that Vectis' actions hampered them. Luke bespin for up to £5000? One sold on eBay for less than £900 a short while ago. The fact that the vectis one went for more than double that would strongly suggest that vague statements and possibilities had no effect. If a major palitoy collector was waiting for a piece and it was in this auction they would not risk missing out on it based on unconfirmed information and vague possibilities.
 
Andyclarke said:
There seems to be some perception from some forum members that the seller is always entitled to the highest price. What about a buyer who might be so desperate for a piece that he breaks the bank to land it only to find out another comes along a month later that goes for a fifth of the price. I definitely feel sorrier for them.

Seconded!
 
spoons said:
jedisearcher said:

Wow!

Shame its mostly sports stuff but some great pieces 8)

I don't think it's mostly sports stuff, it'll be everything it's just the sports stuff is the rarest. I guess there could be a lot more Star Wars then other than the Sealed 48 case of 12 backs and the Palitoy Death Star case. I'm not sure people on the forums realise just what amazing finds are coming out.
 
Vectis have another auction coming up in April that includes Palitoy, so we will not be finding out the contents of the mystery box until that has been completed.

cheers Jason
 
It's a fine line but people need to remember collecting isn't all about personal profit, if the community learning about an amazing find rather than it disappearing into a black hole collection means a few quid less to a dealer or auction house that's a sacrifice worth making IMO. Unless you have no care for the hobby itself of course.
 
Andyclarke said:
spoons said:
jedisearcher said:

Wow!

Shame its mostly sports stuff but some great pieces 8)

I don't think it's mostly sports stuff, it'll be everything it's just the sports stuff is the rarest. I guess there could be a lot more Star Wars then other than the Sealed 48 case of 12 backs and the Palitoy Death Star case. I'm not sure people on the forums realise just what amazing finds are coming out.

That's good - any idea why a loose Judo suit is expected to fetch £1,000. They are not that rare, I didn't understnad the 'not supposed to exist' bit.
 
That's good - any idea why a loose Judo suit is expected to fetch £1,000. They are not that rare, I didn't understnad the 'not supposed to exist' bit.

.........and Vectis begin their hype. They love to pluck numbers out of the air to suck us in. To be fair it does seem to work!
 
mr_palitoy said:
Vectis have another auction coming up in April that includes Palitoy, so we will not be finding out the contents of the mystery box until that has been completed.

cheers Jason

Well that ones doomed lol :roll:
 
jedisearcher said:
Well that ones doomed lol :roll:

Looking at the pictures I posted I think they are probably a few years apart in terms of Star Wars and ROTJ lines and I expect there will be very little crossover. Perfect for Vectis and everyone else I would guess.
 
An auction house is there to make money. They try to get money for your item and take a commission. I deal at auctions a lot (non toys) and hear this greed thing being thrown about. I think its harsh. They are legit businesses, with employees to pay and offer a service where VAT, buyers premium etc is always clearly stated.

From personal experience, the internet is pulling the old auction ways into the social media we are all probably familiar with. A lot of auction houses operate on what I would call, 'old fashioned ways'. Because these business are often long established and that can be hard to admit that the old formula that may have served for a century needs changing. The live auction will die off where a load of old people gather for a day in a room, sit on crappy chairs and stick their hand up now and again. The problem I have with auction houses, is the descriptions and the expertise.. and that's across the board. I'm not sure if the 'sold as seen' works any longer with the wider modern world. [Unless its a box of stuff and that's always a fun gamble. I've gambled a bit on auctions and had some utter triumphs you probably wouldn't believe. And that's the fun and thrill of an auction. ]

The auctions of Vectis and in some part Astons have really got people thinking about toys and their worth. Is it good for the hobby? No idea. I do prefer to deal with people like Iain for my collecting. But the auction houses are out there sourcing this stuff, travelling the country to put this stuff on sale. And lets face it, a lot of us have bid on them. Having spoken to Vectis quite a bit recently, I find that they admit their imperfections and take everything on board. I like that from a business. They are adjusting, learning, responding.

I love watching this hype about what is coming, maybe its just me, I like the tease then the reveal.
 
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