Should SWFUK Ban the Sale of U-Graded Items?

Should SWFUK Ban the Sale of U-Graded Items?

  • Yes! They are evil!

    Votes: 47 83.9%
  • No! They are still evil but what's done is done!

    Votes: 9 16.1%

  • Total voters
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(and i don't mean banning carpets. I think they are fine tho should probably be posted in the 'general sales' section if anything)[/quote]

Anyone trying to sell carpets in the Star Wars sale thread should get a straight red card.
 
I understand a ban on selling U-graded vintage stuff would be a good thing
But what about modern U-graded MOCs I don't see any problem with that,
I have several - no damage done...
 
Even this one ?
 

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Bootyhunter said:
I understand a ban on selling U-graded vintage stuff would be a good thing
But what about modern U-graded MOCs I don't see any problem with that,
I have several - no damage done...

Think they should be included too IMO.

I wouldnt be interested in a Modern U Grade myself. Not sure about the other guys who collect modern on here?

As I mentioned before there is always ebay :)
 
I should mention that I didn't buy them because they were U-graded
A few years back when some lines were being released in the states before the UK it was simply a case of buying ASAP and some of them happened to be U-graded. Seems a bit daft to put a complete ban on the sale of modern items.

I fully support the banning of vintage stuff for all the reasons already mentioned.
 
As I stated on page 1, totally against U Grading as a practice and voted for it to banned, but will the forum also be banning 'the consequences' of the practice such as cardbacks with sliced bubbles? Where is the line likely to be drawn?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Vintage-LAST-17-R2D2-POP-UP-LIGHTSABER-CARD-WITH-SEALED-COIN-/111606870799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fc49b30f

Clearly this item is (by the description's open admission) only available because of it being U graded. I found it while looking for R2 pop-up to help complete my MOC run (it looks frickin' good to me, can't believe its been sliced to be graded!!!), but it highlights the other end of the process and that money is still being made in a less obvious way by destroying perfectly good vintage items...
 
Sorry is this a 'known' seller, wasn't outing anyone (although I think there may already be a thread for that elsewhere), it was just a question about where the line is eventually drawn as I know there are cardback collectors on here and a big chunk of that media has to have come from somewhere if its in exceptional condition...

I'm not for a moment suggesting in anyway that all CBs come from this route; they don't, mine are a combination of my own (battered and drawn on childhoood ones) and ones through here.

I'm also not suggeting CB collecting is wrong either.
 
The cardbacks/bubbles are a side effect of the u-grading process, people who u-grade aren't doing it
to profit off the cardbacks particularly. Also, how do you prove if a cardback was u-graded or just opened
carefully back in the day (many were sliced all the way round, skiced at the top/bottom etc), there is
no real way of telling.

Obviously there's also common sense. If a known U grader posted and came on with 20-30 cut bubble or
bubble/coin still attached cards, you could be pretty sure where they came from.

cheers Jason
 
I voted Yes, because i also think we should mainly focus this to U-graded figures which have been taken from from Moc's or baggies.
I don't have so much of a problem with a brown or plain white mailer box which is opened, as long as the contents e.g. figure in bag is U-graded as as a figure in Bag and not have the bag aswell opened.

The cardback with sliced bubble above is the main issue, that was a perfectly nice moc before, clean card, unpunched, undented bubble (only slightly yellow, but so common on potf).

I don't think the sale of u-graded minirigs or mailers should be banned here, but that my opinion about it.

lets face it, this display's better then a white sealed box....
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But i am all in favour for saving moc's and baggies, no matter if its a cut curd or absolute beater.

I once posted on RS, imagine if UKG and AFA stop ugrading, so no extra u-graded figures ever come in circulation again, and then loose figure collecters start buying u-graded figures to crack open to display as loose mint figures in their collections... I guess then the people who collect u-graded figures would be complaining and bitching about it, but yet they refuse to understand now, that they are now doing exactly the same to moc and baggie collectors...
 
Talk about, open a can of worms, just ban 'U' graded items being sold on here and you need permission off a mod for something you think is fine like a baggie or modern MOC. Simple.
 
SAVORY100 said:
As I stated on page 1, totally against U Grading as a practice and voted for it to banned, but will the forum also be banning 'the consequences' of the practice such as cardbacks with sliced bubbles? Where is the line likely to be drawn?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Vintage-LAST-17-R2D2-POP-UP-LIGHTSABER-CARD-WITH-SEALED-COIN-/111606870799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fc49b30f

That is shocking! no excuse for opening that up.
 
Couldn't agree more!
Totally gutting that I have a small list of MOCs yet to get and while searching this destroyed one turns up.. the cardback is better than many other MOCs I have!!! :evil:
 
Someone on here would probably buy that R2 card and bubble, then put a pop up R2 back in it and display it as a MOC.

So it's completely differant to buying or selling a 'U' graded figure IMO.
 
Why do the mailers get a U designation when they are still in their baggies. Surely giving them a grade without U would solve some dilemmas?
 
edd_jedi said:
SAVORY100 said:
As I stated on page 1, totally against U Grading as a practice and voted for it to banned, but will the forum also be banning 'the consequences' of the practice such as cardbacks with sliced bubbles? Where is the line likely to be drawn?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Vintage-LAST-17-R2D2-POP-UP-LIGHTSABER-CARD-WITH-SEALED-COIN-/111606870799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fc49b30f

That is shocking! no excuse for opening that up.


Seconded. That is, sorry WAS a beautiful MOC. God knows what possesed him to destroy that. It doesn't look like the bubble was cracked.
 
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