Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

[benny100]

Fascinating stuff Jason, be great to hear more about collecting from pre ebay days. And to echo, be great to see some pics of your collection.

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Awesome post Jason. Welcome to the forum

 

[Joe]

Jason, could you address the issue of you being involved in dealing with fake props over the years? I have heard that same story time and time again with regards to why you shouldn't be trusted and I always wanted to know the specifics. You seem quite happy to explain certain things so now is as good a time as any to ask.

As for the Grey limbed Snowtroopers: It's been widely accepted as a ******** story from the get go, same thing with the gold hat "Debenham's special" bespin guards and the proto R2's (that I hear came from you too). I still don't believe they are anything other than customs and I hope people don't take your word for it based on the story you gave on here. The main reason that people who discover interesting variants/prototypes or anything else of real importanceand worth in this hobby are taken seriously is that they can back up their claims with provenance and a solid story..not just "Oh I used to buy them up whenever I could because they were interesting and I could flip them and double my money" - that says jack **** about them actually being legit.

I'm not going to buy into the "I didn't make much profit so they can't have been fake" line either. If you made £18-20 profit on each figure that's pretty decent money for a piece of crap. You can't ask £100's for junk because sooner or later people get suspicious, but if you sell a lot of junk cheaply you can turn it into a good earner and even if people work out it is actually junk they don't feel all that bad because "oh it was only £30..never mind".

The reason for my scepticism is simply due to the fact that almost everyone who I trust and regard as valuable assets to the community and our hobby think you are a bit more than just a "cheeky chappy" Jason..

You have to admit that for one of the big boys your name is associated with a lot of negativity. I don't see Sansweet having the same issue and I can only assume that's because he wasn't caught out selling duff items like yourself.. :roll:

 

[tiefighterboy]

Woof :lol: :lol:

Actually I stopped reading after this statement

wow there are some great stories on here that i have just read some of you guys should be writing the new Star Wars films as fantasy seems to be your strong point

 

[palitoyjunky]

Jason Joiner, I don't know all the details about your alleged dodgy past regarding grey limbed Hoth Troopers and fake film props etc etc, but what I do know is that it is not good practise to promise someone provenance on pieces they have bought from you and not deliver :? Then keep promising again and again and still not deliver :evil:

You should be ashamed of yourself

 

[Palifan]

I was wondering when some of the longer forum members were going to chip in, I just remember reading many pages on Jason and was very surprised to see his comment the other day.

Ian

 

[Joe]

I'm a little disappointed at everyone giving him a round of applause for his post tbh. Having loads of toys doesn't make anyone a credible source of information or even a nice guy.. :roll:

The only thing I got from that post is that Jordan might have been confused about the Yak Face baggies originating from Jason, which is something I suppose but it certainly hasn't cleared up anything else I have heard his name associated with.

I wonder if we will ever get another reply..

 

[itfciain]

Jury is obviously out - but you can't knock the guy for coming on here

Will be interesting to see some more posts from 'ace'

 

[Joe]

Will be interesting to see some more posts from 'ace'

 

[x-pack]

Is this even Jason Joiner posting? I have to admit that my initial thought was that this maybe someone's idea of a joke, especially after the first few lines basically having a dig at forum members :?

Personally I know very little about the guy. Elstree Empire was fantastic but then there was this massive let down of the second one being cancelled despite being advertised on the program :roll: I don't blame Jason for that but, you know, it wasn't best.

 

[mr_palitoy]

Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

Is this even Jason Joiner posting? I have to admit that my initial thought was that this maybe someone's idea of a joke, especially after the first few lines basically having a dig at forum members :?

Personally I know very little about the guy. Elstree Empire was fantastic but then there was this massive let down of the second one being cancelled despite being advertised on the program :roll: I don't blame Jason for that but, you know, it wasn't best.

It's the same style as his showmasters forum posts and the bit about him being dyslexic shows in this and his other posts so I don't doubt that it his him posting.

Jason

 

[x-pack]

Oh ok :?

Strange to come on and be so abrupt. Just surprised me really that a guy who is apparently an associate of Gary Kurtz, who put on a show like Elstree and who is such a renowned collector of spectacularly rare pieces would bother to sign up on here, make one post like that, and then disappear. I mean, why?

Think I need to know more about Mr Joiner

 

[Grant_C]

Ive let him know of the post.

 

[ace]

it seems i am having issue posting any replies to peoples posts

i do nto quite know what i am doing wrong in posting a response

 

[ace]

Ok, cool 8)

Nice update and congrats on Elstree Empire Day Hope to hear more from you Jason.

Shame Elstree 2 never happened. Was looking forward to that

 

[ace]

Palitoy Jawa.

I've said those words to often recently :lol:

well it dose exist and for the nay sayers now others have come out and have been seen also , its a very cool thing that one or two of them have lasted all this time bearing in mind back then they were the hot toy , its amassing really.

i do wonder if this is the only complete set in the world ? with the large head Han , the Jawa cloth cape in a R2 bubble and i have a sand person with a painted nose also which i have never seen anywhere else ?

maybe someone else can tell me if there has been a loos one found with a painted nose ?


happy collecting jason

 

[JuniorChubb]

:?:

 

[tiefighterboy]

Quit smoking all that crack.

 

[tiefighterboy]

Palitoy Jawa.

I've said those words to often recently :lol:

 

[tiefighterboy]

Palitoy Jawa.

I've said those words to often recently :lol:

 

[tiefighterboy]

This is fun.

GO

****

YOURSELF

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Bramistuta25]

This is fun.

GO

****

YOURSELF

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[tiefighterboy]

**** it

 

[Bramistuta25]

**** it

:lol:

 

[tiefighterboy]

**** it

:lol:

Much better than that RS thread....thanks Loverboy. :lol: :lol:

 

[mr_palitoy]

Well, this thread has taken a turn to the weird.



Jason

 

[tiefighterboy]

Well, this thread has taken a turn to the weird.



Jason

Not sure what is going on..maybe Ace has been hitting the bottle..but what the hell...might as well have fun. :wink:

 

[ace]

Is this even Jason Joiner posting? I have to admit that my initial thought was that this maybe someone's idea of a joke, especially after the first few lines basically having a dig at forum members :?

Personally I know very little about the guy. Elstree Empire was fantastic but then there was this massive let down of the second one being cancelled despite being advertised on the program :roll: I don't blame Jason for that but, you know, it wasn't best.

ok i am getting the hang of this silly me , ho well on with the responses.

hi X pack this is me jason , i do not know anyone else that that can mess up responding in the wrong place to a lode of messages with out knowing till i was half way down the response

anyway yes its me , i am glad you liked the Elstree Empire day and we did have an agreement with the studio to run another but they change there mind so we had to cancel , no tickets was put on sale and no one lost out so that was that , we do plan to run another event like this in the future but not at the studio so maybe we will see you soon ? jason

 

[ace]

Jason

ace was my star wars arcade name when you had to put in the 3 digest at the end of the game , it go's to level 999 i think if i remember rightly i did it in around 5 hours twice in my life, lost youth when i did not have better things to do

i even took walter and food into the sit-down so i did not get hungry , i was lucky to own one form 1987 and had all my mates around to play on it with all nighters i was 17 and had one in my bedroom , at that time life could not have been any better the good old day