POTF v Tri Logo

Leemcl

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It would seem that POTF MOC are worth quite a bit less than Tri Logo cards in Europe, if it is true then would the reverse be the case in US & Canada with POTF being worth more there ?

I am asking as I have Carded POTF EV9D9, R2 Pop Up & A-Wing figures which I was considering swapping for Tri Logo but it seems so expensive to do

Also was POTF ever sold in the U.K. I thought not but a friend of mine seems to have a childhood card back that he claims came from a shop in greater London.

Views....
 
POTF and Trilogo last 17 are for the most part on a par with notable exceptions being Yak and Anakin, the others can also have significantly different values, Niko, Jawa and Gam Guard being the biggest I think - as for potf being sold in the UK I've not got a clue
 
They were sold over here- just as the regular Kenner cards were earlier on. However, don't think they were available in great numbers as popularity was on the wain by then.
 
The US had a much bigger market for the POTF line, hence why the cards are somewhat cheaper in most circumstances. Anakin only appeared as a mailaway, and both him and Yak only appeared on POTF in Canada.

The L17 Trilogo at the time were easy to get hold of.... and pretty much still are.. however it's the clear bubbles that Trilogos have is what collectors seem to want.. POTF yellow very easily.

Yak only commands the premium due to not being available in the US, and of course, everyone wanted him.. same as the Blue Snaggletooth here... although that premium is now a bit ridiculous as they are everywhere now thanks to the interweb.
 
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I am fairly lucky in that these do not seem to be very Yellow at all, to the naked eye not at all on EV9D9 or A-Wing and minimal if any on R2 although the photo adds a shade in that example picture.

It's good to know POTF did make it over to Europe at one stage, if the prices are similar it must be a case of waiting for the prices to match and then taking a deal. There is a really nice EV9 Tri Logo on eBay at the moment but way off on prices.
 
There is no way the POTF and Trilogo are on a par! The POTF cardbacks are falling due to the yellowing bubbles and they are not very nice.. The Trilogo market is booming, ev9d9 and R2 if you can find them would sell for double what you would get for the POTF cards EASY!

Good luck :roll:
 
Namelesswarrior said:
There is no way the POTF and Trilogo are on a par! The POTF cardbacks are falling due to the yellowing bubbles and they are not very nice.. The Trilogo market is booming, ev9d9 and R2 if you can find them would sell for double what you would get for the POTF cards EASY!

Good luck :roll:
On the same line of thinking anakin tri logo is 50 quid and potf is 6-7 grand. Tri logo yak a grand, potf yak 5 grand, the only difference is a couple of hundred if that on your comparison
 
In terms of the Last 17, other than the two notable exceptions, they're not a million miles apart. However, yes, R2 and EV are a bit apart. R2 on POTF seems to be (all prices in £ GBP) 250 or so but on Trilogo is nearer 400. EV on POTF is around 130-140 but on Trilogo is more like 200. Han Carb on POTF is 150 or so but on Trilogo is more like 200. A-Wing Pilot, Dignitary, Barada are all slightly lower on POTF but only by a few pounds.

Those are quite nice clear bubbles but it's quite widely accepted that POTF bubbles are absolute nightmares and proper time bombs. You have to treat a Trilogo very badly before it starts to yellow. I do have one, though.

If I was you, I'd make the most of the weak pound and target the US market whilst the bubbles are that good. You should do well and probably be able to pick up the Trilogo equivalents over here for what you get for them.
 
So the old coin on the card v the big bubble :?:

Well from my UK experience and most prob a US take on it too, back in the mid 90s when I seriously started collecting the Tri-logo was a cheap crappy option as opposed to the POTF line which was where most of the hype was :!: I always chuckle remembering the 1st issue Tomart's Price Guide To World Wide SW Collectibles and seeing some loose figures with a higher price listing than the same figure mint sealed on a non-mint Tri-logo card :lol: It's worth noting that the general feeling was that most Tri MOCs were sub par condition compared to the standard domestic MOC :!:
Now the Yak, Anakin and other rare foreign POTF MOCs i.e. AT-AT Driver and Nikto were always an outstanding higher price but I rem seeing a Han Carb for over £200 in 96 because of the hype :!:

So as everyone knows the Tri MOC has from then on become more and more liked and respected and from a UK/Euro standpoint the POTF has declined with today's price for a last 17 Tri on many occasions being higher than its POTF equivalent and here r my thoughts on why;

Availability. Like most vintage lines so much more has surfaced because of the internet etc and near perfect condition Tris have become very getable(apart from a couple ie Amanaman etc)@ and finding a mint Tri is a beautiful thing 8)

Variation. Collectors have come to realise the really cool differences between some Tris and their domestic counterparts i.e. Different colours used in the backing card particularly with the last 15, picture variations like the same picture flipped i.e. Jawa or a completely diff picture i.e. Leia Hoth 8) How bout that lovely glowing green on a Tri Rebel Commando cardback compared to the horrible browny stony colour on the domestic cardback :!:

More vintage design. The Tri backing card has most of it taken up with a scene from the film set just like its vintage domestic counterpart apart from the POTF MOC which is much more like the later MOCs i.e. POTF2 :!:

Yellow bubble. Most Tris have clear bubble and u only find a handful with tinged bubbles. On the other hand if u see a clear bubble POTF, initially the alarm bells start ringing :!: In fact lately, legit and graded clear bubble POTF is going for big money in the US which is mad IMO as I don't understand anyone banking on a clear bubble on a card belonging to the most notorious of all vintage lines for yellow bubbles :!:

My last point from a completist view is that today it is much tougher to put a POTF set of last 17 together than Tri-logo because of Anakin and Yak :!:

Me personally regarding the last 17, I started down the POTF path but thankfully quickly changed to Tri-logo particularly when I realised I was going to b able to put a near mint set together 8)


My twopence worth.
 
palitoyjunky said:
So the old coin on the card v the big bubble :?:

Well from my UK experience and most prob a US take on it too, back in the mid 90s when I seriously started collecting the Tri-logo was a cheap crappy option as opposed to the POTF line which was where most of the hype was :!: I always chuckle remembering the 1st issue Tomart's Price Guide To World Wide SW Collectibles and seeing some loose figures with a higher price listing than the same figure mint sealed on a non-mint Tri-logo card :lol: It's worth noting that the general feeling was that most Tri MOCs were sub par condition compared to the standard domestic MOC :!:
Now the Yak, Anakin and other rare foreign POTF MOCs i.e. AT-AT Driver and Nikto were always an outstanding higher price but I rem seeing a Han Carb for over £200 in 96 because of the hype :!:

So as everyone knows the Tri MOC has from then on become more and more liked and respected and from a UK/Euro standpoint the POTF has declined with today's price for a last 17 Tri on many occasions being higher than its POTF equivalent and here r my thoughts on why;

Availability. Like most vintage lines so much more has surfaced because of the internet etc and near perfect condition Tris have become very getable(apart from a couple ie Amanaman etc)@ and finding a mint Tri is a beautiful thing 8)

Variation. Collectors have come to realise the really cool differences between some Tris and their domestic counterparts i.e. Different colours used in the backing card particularly with the last 15, picture variations like the same picture flipped i.e. Jawa or a completely diff picture i.e. Leia Hoth 8) How bout that lovely glowing green on a Tri Rebel Commando cardback compared to the horrible browny stony colour on the domestic cardback :!:

More vintage design. The Tri backing card has most of it taken up with a scene from the film set just like its vintage domestic counterpart apart from the POTF MOC which is much more like the later MOCs i.e. POTF2 :!:

Yellow bubble. Most Tris have clear bubble and u only find a handful with tinged bubbles. On the other hand if u see a clear bubble POTF, initially the alarm bells start ringing :!: In fact lately, legit and graded clear bubble POTF is going for big money in the US which is mad IMO as I don't understand anyone banking on a clear bubble on a card belonging to the most notorious of all vintage lines for yellow bubbles :!:

My last point from a completist view is that today it is much tougher to put a POTF set of last 17 together than Tri-logo because of Anakin and Yak :!:

Me personally regarding the last 17, I started down the POTF path but thankfully quickly changed to Tri-logo particularly when I realised I was going to b able to put a near mint set together 8)


My twopence worth.

Good summary of current situation and the old situation. One of the biggest U-turns in collector opinions in the entirety of the hobby, I think: from parriah and despised to appreciated and sought after.
 
Incidentally, I am now considering this switch. I have 11 of 17 on nice potf cards. Missing the 4 ewoks and the 2 big boys.

Anyone want to trade, hit me up.
 
I'd love to do a POTF run but know I could never afford Anakin or Yak, so there's no point starting. I do think they are very cool looking cards. It annoys me how expensive POTF trilogos have become the last few years, they are amongst the most common trilogos. I guess it's because the loose figures along are worth so much now.
 
MarkG said:
The US had a much bigger market for the POTF line, hence why the cards are somewhat cheaper in most circumstances. Anakin only appeared as a mailaway, and both him and Yak only appeared on POTF in Canada.

I just want to correct this statement. There is some debate as whether Yak was ever released in Canada. Most of the stock was sold off by Kenner Canada to Europe & Australia. I don't think Anakin was ever available to Canada. Not even as a mail away figure. The only ones that have evidence for sure is Paploo & Lumat and they were released on ROTJ 77 backs, but not pictured on the back. I have the MOC Paploo, and the cardback for Lumat. Also there is an old add from Sears Canada Wishbook for Luke Stormie & Han Carbonite.

http://www.tantivexi.com/t585-yak-face-the-offer-that-never-was-but-who-said-there-was-an-offer

http://web.ncf.ca/cn333/yakface.htm
 
Anyone finds a pop up R2 on a POTF card for £250 let me know, the cheapest I've seen is about £450.

I'd say £250 is the going rate for a mint loose one. :shock:
 
theforceuk said:
Anyone finds a pop up R2 on a POTF card for £250 let me know, the cheapest I've seen is about £450.

I'd say £250 is the going rate for a mint loose one. :shock:

I was about to say I've seen a fair few, but, in fairness, that was pre the pound falling on it's arse. I guess add another 20% now. However, they are out there. Some dude had about 30 up for sale as a job lot. Think they averaged about £215 each?
 
ScruffyLookingNH said:
theforceuk said:
Anyone finds a pop up R2 on a POTF card for £250 let me know, the cheapest I've seen is about £450.

I'd say £250 is the going rate for a mint loose one. :shock:

I was about to say I've seen a fair few, but, in fairness, that was pre the pound falling on it's arse. I guess add another 20% now. However, they are out there. Some dude had about 30 up for sale as a job lot. Think they averaged about £215 each?

I'm sure Iain Zanderson has had a couple for sale in the last couple of years for well below 250. Something Ive noticed about POTF last 17 is the price carded is in some cases the same as loose, or only a little bit more.
 
ScruffyLookingNH said:
theforceuk said:
Anyone finds a pop up R2 on a POTF card for £250 let me know, the cheapest I've seen is about £450.

I'd say £250 is the going rate for a mint loose one. :shock:

I was about to say I've seen a fair few, but, in fairness, that was pre the pound falling on it's arse. I guess add another 20% now. However, they are out there. Some dude had about 30 up for sale as a job lot. Think they averaged about £215 each?

That is good, have a look on eBay what some people are asking for both POTF and Trilogo. Your right though if your patient then I'm sure you will get one for a sensible price. :)

I agree on the loose price being the same as some MOC, put this down to the flipping 'U' graded loose last 17.
 
Leemcl said:
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I am fairly lucky in that these do not seem to be very Yellow at all, to the naked eye not at all on EV9D9 or A-Wing and minimal if any on R2 although the photo adds a shade in that example picture.

It's good to know POTF did make it over to Europe at one stage, if the prices are similar it must be a case of waiting for the prices to match and then taking a deal. There is a really nice EV9 Tri Logo on eBay at the moment but way off on prices.

I had a look at the EV9 trilogo in the flesh last night that's on ebay. The seller's not far from me. Nice example, little dent on top right of bubble and bit of a wave. He's going to keep it at that price and if no takers will bring the price down in a month. He's got great stuff to list.
 
Thanks for the heads up on the in person viewing. When I say "way off" I mean way off my budget....as looked a good buy and it would seem to be the case.

My POTF MOC probably would struggle to £200 at the moment which leaves me £150 shy without considering any fees


I hate being sensible !
 
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