Picturegate on RS

[itfciain]

This about sums it up for me - Great post Grant

"Having read through this thread. My opinion is that alot of people here are making mountains out of moles hills. Were talking about pictures of toys for goodness sake. Pictures that people have uploaded to a public domain for everyone to look at should they choose to. Id see some peoples points a little better if it were private pics that were meant to be kept PRIVATE and not shared on a public message board. To the guys making all the fuss about virtually nothing have you got nothing better to worry about or do with your time."

 

[wbobafett]

For me its mainly about two reasons:

1. I wasnt informed and so I feel cheated. Im not even sure if I would delete my pictures (besides my private ones on RS), when I would have been informed I would "gift" my pictures to RS when uploading them there.

2. Dont forget who earns money on that site by clicks! If someone makes money with your property and without your permission you should be mad IMO.

I hope this doesnt turn into a Joe_Y discussion again. That leads nowhere. This is about general photohosting terms on RS.

just my 5cents

 

[itfciain]

JoeY - who ?

I understand what you are saying but don't think it is really a big deal at all - as people have pointed out in the RS thread - if you upload pictures to Facebook or similar sites then they become their property. If RS had a similar rule then I am surer 90% of posters would still upload their pictures.

I don't see what people are getting so upset about - what do they think RS will do with their pictures - and as Grant says - why load up pictures to a public site if you don't want people to see them forever ?

 

[weasel]

I can see why people are getting pissed off, if I uploaded pictures to a website and they then suddenly decided they owned them, I'd be pissed off. It's fine if they have it in the terms and conditions when you join or if it's advertised on the site/included in a link or email when you first upload, but to just randomly decide this would seriously piss me off.
I don't think I ever limelighted on RS, and the only pictures I have on there are in my FS thread so I don't mind what happens to them, but even so I don't like the arbitrary way this has all been decided from up on high.

PS, I freely admit to being an obsessively private person (as anyone who has looked at my pictures on Facebook, all four of them, will know). That probably explains my feelings on the matter.

 

[wbobafett]

I understand what you are saying but don't think it is really a big deal at all - as people have pointed out in the RS thread - if you upload pictures to Facebook or similar sites then they become their property. If RS had a similar rule then I am surer 90% of posters would still upload their pictures.

Might be true....but you know if you upload on facebook. (And btw thats the reason I have no pictures uploaded there).

This is more about "boss can do what he wants" attitude that annoys me!

Of course the pictures are public and I cannot control (nowhere) what happens to them : saved/linked/reuploaded elswhere/copied/changed and reuploaded......that **** happens and everybody knows.

Still I think I should have the right to delete them over RS whenever I want. And I still think I should have been informed if not!

 

[Josh]

Why does it matter if he removes them? No one one would say boo if it was just "another" collection that was being removed I bet. So who is really making the fuss here? I think you gotta say BOTH sides if anything :|

If I was Philip, I would of just said "Fine, take the pictures". He is just making things worse when he should of been a little more diplomatic about things, given the atmosphere around there at the minute and all.

 

[tiefighterboy]

They are pictures of toy collections...not personal artwork or proffesional photography......and I think people are really get worked up about this for reasons other than stated. This will be my only post...so this ship does not sink on you guys. :wink:

 

[plantman]

i agree with Josh, he should have just let him remove them, but my stance on it is the same as Grants, who cares, they are pictures of toys thats all.

if you really dont want people to see them dont show it, because anyone can copy any picture off the internet anyway.

it really is just a mountain out of a molehill....pretty boring and pointless.

 

[mr_palitoy]

It's my most popular thread on RS by a long way. lol

I don't think Mr Wise legally has a leg to stand on. The owner of the photos has asked for them to be removed from his site, and he has refused. I'd expect lawyers will be involved shortly.



Jason

 

[BlueDog]

I opened a Facebook account about a year ago as most other cartoonists I know had done the same, never really had an interest in it just thought I'd best keep up with the times. I uploaded a **** load of my cartoons only to find out that Facebook reckons they own the copyright to all images on their site. I promptly removed them and my FB page sits vacant.

The thing that stands out to me with this whole RS deal is Philips arrogance towards the members on his site, sure I can understand he wants to keep the content as it forms an integral part of RS as a resource, but seeing as things have been so heated I think the way he has handled himself is disgraceful. He should have taken the higher ground and basically said so be it and good riddance to Joe-Y.

This is over more than just pics of people's toys, there are heaps of threads on RS which include members showing their artwork, professional and amateur artists alike, also members that have created their own guides and dioramas the list goes on. I'm fairly certain these people will be wanting to know if Philip all of a sudden believes he owns the copyright to their work.

When Philip posted his comment about Joe-Y's departure I felt like a school kid being chastised by his teacher.

The whole thing stinks.

 

[Grant_C]

The reality of the situation is that both sides have ****ed up. Everyone in the community is going to miss out because if it and there is no framework where a group of posters that feel pissed, can get together and release a 'white paper' to the RS Mods showing their issuies and desires to start putting a building block to recftify the situation. Bitchy threads are just going to make the Mods feel marginalised on their own site, which will make them feel backed in a cornor and they are going to react, poorly no doubt.

I would suggest that all those that feel pissed about pictures/joey/site design etc, should get together and write a professional document that they can all sign that diplomaticly shows the problems and how they feel would be the way forward. Threads are more like a yelling crowd and less coheirent. I would ask the mods to read the white paper and come back with some answers to their suggestions.

Repeat process.

The man isn't the guy who yells **** the loudest, its the one you makes the first positive step to a resolution.

My 2 cents.

 

[Josh]

Why don't we just move this down to OT now? OR are we asking what the policy here is?
Quite frankly I am sick of reading about this ****. Plenty of other forums you can be moaning about likes and dislikes on the subject...unless of course you're trying to get an answer out of Edd on where he stands, but it doesn't look like you are.

Can I interest you in some titties?

 

[BlueDog]

:lol: Nice titties Josh.

Why is is whenever someone is sick of reading about something they want it shut down or moved? If you don't wanna read it then don't ****en read it!! :lol: :lol:

 

[tundra9]

TITTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[itfciain]

:lol: Nice titties Josh.

Why is is whenever someone is sick of reading about something they want it shut down or moved? If you don't wanna read it then don't ****en read it!! :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: as Liam would say - SECONDED

 

[Josh]

It is just going to turn into the same **** as the other day.

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And now a pic of an elephant sticking it's trunk up another elephants arse coz it is real hungry.

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

:lol: Nice titties Josh.

Why is is whenever someone is sick of reading about something they want it shut down or moved? If you don't wanna read it then don't ****en read it!! :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: as Liam would say - SECONDED

:lol: :lol:


and gues what

"The man isn't the guy who yells **** the loudest, its the one you makes the first positive step to a resolution".

Seconded! :mrgreen:

 

[Josh]

Aw shut up Liam. Go wish James Gallo Happy birthday on RS or something will yah :lol:

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Aw Josh! Now now :mrgreen:

I dont him either TBH. But he deserves a Happy Birthday Thread for Gods Sake.

 

[shawn_k]

Why does it matter if he removes them? No one one would say boo if it was just "another" collection that was being removed I bet. So who is really making the fuss here? I think you gotta say BOTH sides if anything :|

If I was Philip, I would of just said "Fine, take the pictures". He is just making things worse when he should of been a little more diplomatic about things, given the atmosphere around there at the minute and all.

I agree Josh. In this situation there really isn't a person clear in the right as mistakes have been made on both sides. The main issue isn't really about photos, but Phillip's attitude about the whole situation in the heat of the moment.

I also feel that thing about making money that everyone is running with now is a joke. Have we ever paid to use RS? The service has always been free to anyone. I'd bet a lot of the money they make on clicks, generally pays their bills for bandwidth, power, the recent server upgrades, etc. Remember when everyone used to complain about RS being down during certain hours. Well that cost money/time to fix.

I'm not saying the way its been done is right though as it certainly should be laid out in the terms when signing up or in the photo hosting area. People have a right to know if that is how their photos/data is being used.