Palitoy ESB carded values

[palitoyjunky]

30 back, never seen.

45a £800+
41 £900+

Though this is largely guess work as I have not seen any of these for sale in a long time. Especially the 41 back, of which I only know of one

The last 45a Jawa that sold that I know of went for £900 some time last year I believe, it was sold along with some other tough 45a's!
Wouldn't surprise me if a 41 Jawa went for considerably more than £900 but then again being so scarce (at the mo) ie many prob wouldn't know it's rarity and significance(though that little Pali logo on the front would excite a few) so if one came up for sale and the right people were not around Could go cheap!!

Darren Simpson reckons a 30 Jawa is out there along with a Luke??!!

 

[mr_palitoy]

30 back, never seen.

45a £800+
41 £900+

Though this is largely guess work as I have not seen any of these for sale in a long time. Especially the 41 back, of which I only know of one

The last 45a Jawa that sold that I know of went for £900 some time last year I believe, it was sold along with some other tough 45a's!
Wouldn't surprise me if a 41 Jawa went for considerably more than £900 but then again being so scarce (at the mo) ie many prob wouldn't know it's rarity and significance(though that little Pali logo on the front would excite a few) so if one came up for sale and the right people were not around Could go cheap!!

Darren Simpson reckons a 30 Jawa is out there along with a Luke??!!

My palitoy matrix uses testimony from Darren, David Tree etc for the 30b entries for the uber rare first 12/20 characters. I have 30b Jawa down as existing on that basis.

cheers Jason

 

[Lee Gregory]

There are bargains out there to be found,you just have to be either very quick,or lucky. The Palitoy's that BT had for sale the other week is proof of that.

I honestly think.that a lot of collectors are hoarding Palitoy,in the sense that they are not willing to sell anything, this then gives the impression to a 'new' collector that just because a card has a Palitoy logo to the front of the card it must be rare. I haven't got a link but two 'common' 41 bks, Han Hoth and ATAT Driver both recently fetched £500 on ebay in afa 75 condition. It wasn't that long ago I remember an afa 85 ATAT Driver struggling to sell at a price of £325.

I pretty much agree with Gary though,if you aren't too concerned with condition,you should be able to pick up a few items with a bit of luck and patience. I managed to pick up a 41 bk yoda off ebay the other month for £100, ok the the bubble has a good dint to the top right and some fool cut the top right corner of the card,but you have to take what you can,when it becomes available and then upgrade at a later date. That's the way I have always collected and mostly it has served me well.

 

[palitoyjunky]

30 back, never seen.

45a £800+
41 £900+

Though this is largely guess work as I have not seen any of these for sale in a long time. Especially the 41 back, of which I only know of one

The last 45a Jawa that sold that I know of went for £900 some time last year I believe, it was sold along with some other tough 45a's!
Wouldn't surprise me if a 41 Jawa went for considerably more than £900 but then again being so scarce (at the mo) ie many prob wouldn't know it's rarity and significance(though that little Pali logo on the front would excite a few) so if one came up for sale and the right people were not around Could go cheap!!

Darren Simpson reckons a 30 Jawa is out there along with a Luke??!!

My palitoy matrix uses testimony from Darren, David Tree etc for the 30b entries for the uber rare first 12/20 characters. I have 30b Jawa down as existing on that basis.

cheers Jason

I do not doubt their existance J, Darren himself apparantly owns 6 12 back characters on 30B's including Vader and Han and I know of a Ben and DSC that sold for around £90 a piece a fair few years ago!!

 

[spoons]

Han Hoth and ATAT Driver both recently fetched £500 on ebay in afa 75 condition. It wasn't that long ago I remember an afa 85 ATAT Driver struggling to sell at a price of £325.

Bimey - anyone want to buy a Han Hoth

 

[mr_palitoy]

I do not doubt their existance J, Darren himself apparantly owns 6 12 back characters on 30B's including Vader and Han and I know of a Ben and DSC that sold for around £90 a piece a fair few years ago!!

Didn't realise he had so many! I saw his Chewbacca in the Palitoy Archive at Celebration Europe.

Good score on the Ben and DSC. I would say Ben is the most common, followed by Han Solo and DSC.

cheers Jason

 

[sith-smith]

If it's the 45a Jawa that sold back in 2011, it was me that sold it.

The 30 back as far as I know is only a cardback, though I may have misheard. I don't doubt its existence and if Darren said it and has seen it, then I would say it is true.

I only know of one 41 back Jawa...in fact it is sat here next to me! Though I doubt it is the only one in existence. However, I do not want this to start into an all out what's rare etc thread on Palitoy as this is not the purpose of this thread.

I think Heith can do what he wishes to do. It will cost some serious money, though I think time will be more of the problem than money. There are a number of characters in the set that are going to be really tricky, as for some reason they have always been hard to get on any card. Some will pop up ocassionally on eBay, or listed on a forum like this. At other times there will be all out sales as people sell there entire collection. Both of these have always happened. I can think of at least 5 times since 2004 when large collections of 30 backs have appeared for sale. It's just a waiting game. I still maintain that these pieces are becoming more common rather than rarer. It's just as Lee say people are hoarding, and now so many people are trying to collect them

If it would help him, and it would be interesting to see what people think, we could always do a list in order of which will be the easiest and round rough prices. Anyone want to go first? :?

 

[Lee Gregory]

Well go on then Gaz, I'll start by listing the easy ones and what I would consider a fair price in c9/ afa 80 condition.

45 a
Black Bespin Guard £125
Tie Pilot £250
ATAT Commander £200
4LOM £200

41bks
ATAT Driver £250
Han Hoth £250
Lobot £250
Ugnaught £250
2-1b £300
Rebel Commander £250

30 bks are very diffucult to put a price on,they seem to fluctuate wildly.

Gaz your turn :-D

 

[Joe]

This is rapidly becoming the most interesting thread on the forum right now, been a great read guys!

 

[spoons]

Well go on then Gaz, I'll start by listing the easy ones and what I would consider a fair price in c9/ afa 80 condition.

45 a
Black Bespin Guard £125
Tie Pilot £250
ATAT Commander £200
4LOM £200

D

I wouldn't disagree with most of your prices Lee, but both the AT-AT commander and BBG can be had for less than £100. The BBG can be got for £50 (or less) if you don't mind a yellow bubble

 

[sith-smith]

Good start Lee

Though, I'd have Leia hoth and Imperial commander amongst the easier 41 backs. and R2 in the 45a's. I found the rebel commander much harder when I was looking, though that was some time ago.

So easier ones...

45a

Black Bespin Guard
Tie Pilot
ATAT Commander
4LOM
R2 Sensorscope

Slightly harder
41

ATAT Driver
Han Hoth
Lobot
Ugnaught
2-1b
Imperial commander
Leia Hoth
Rebel Commander

Next up I'd have thought would have been

45a Hoth Rebel Soldier
45a Han Bespin
30 Lando
41 Hoth Stormtrooper
30 Luke Bespin
30 Leia Bespin

Then maybe

41 Yoda
41 Fx7
41 IG88
30 Bossk

Then

30 White Bespin Guard
41 Fett
45a Dengar
45a Luke Hoth
45a Cloud Car Pilot
45a C3P0

But this is all just based on what I have seen come up for sale in the years I've been searching. Other may well have experienced things in a different way. That last lot could easily be different.

 

[sith-smith]

Well go on then Gaz, I'll start by listing the easy ones and what I would consider a fair price in c9/ afa 80 condition.

45 a
Black Bespin Guard £125
Tie Pilot £250
ATAT Commander £200
4LOM £200

D

I wouldn't disagree with most of your prices Lee, but both the AT-AT commander and BBG can be had for less than £100. The BBG can be got for £50 (or less) if you don't mind a yellow bubble

I've chickened out and stayed clear of prices. They seem so over the place at the moment. I actually think both of you are right on the two figures you've mentioned. It just depends on who is looking at the time.

 

[spoons]

I've chickened out and stayed clear of prices. They seem so over the place at the moment. I actually think both of you are right on the two figures you've mentioned. It just depends on who is looking at the time.

You should be a politician :lol:

 

[palitoyjunky]

Well go on then Gaz, I'll start by listing the easy ones and what I would consider a fair price in c9/ afa 80 condition.

45 a
Black Bespin Guard £125
Tie Pilot £250
ATAT Commander £200
4LOM £200

D

I wouldn't disagree with most of your prices Lee, but both the AT-AT commander and BBG can be had for less than £100. The BBG can be got for £50 (or less) if you don't mind a yellow bubble

I've chickened out and stayed clear of prices. They seem so over the place at the moment. I actually think both of you are right on the two figures you've mentioned. It just depends on who is looking at the time.

I would have to more or less agree with you Gaz though I dont know of I'd put Luke and Leia Bespin amongst the easiest in the list but as you say all personal experience! And your wise to stay away from prices but have to say I am pretty much in agreement with Lee on his prices, realistically not many people would let a clean BBG go for £50 just because it has a bubble tinge!

 

[spoons]

Here's my try at the most common figs and prices based on ebay sales over the last few years

30backs

seen one each of

21B - £920
Han Hoth - £920
Lobot - £400
Luke Bespin - £1,040
Imperial Commander - £95 (replaced nameplate)
Yoda - £200 (C6ish)

41 backs in order of no. of ebay sales seen by me,

Lobot - x 4
Ugnaught - x 2
Imperial Commander - x 2
Han Hoth - x 1
AT-AT Driver - x 1
Imperial Stormtrooper - x 1
Han Bespin - x 1

Prices ranged from £27 (Lobot C8 with two pin holes) to £256 (AFA 80 Han Hoth)

45a in order of no. of ebay sales seen by me

4-LOM x 9
AT-AT Commander x 7
Black Bespin Guard x 6
TIE pilot x 5
R2-D2 x 3
Imp Commander x 2

Prices ranged from £50 (4-LOM crack at base of bubble) to £390 (minty TIE pilot - but another minty TIE pilot sold for £80)

Then one each of

Ben Kenobi - £800
Han Bespin - £100
Lobot - £125
Rebel Soldier - £205
Bespin Guard - £505
Luke Bespin - £410

As Lee and Gary say prices are all over the place and when there is a £200 variance between a TIE pilot there is no way of knowing what the next figure will go for.

Gary and I fought over a minty 30 back Han Hoth which ended up selling for less than £300, yet a year or so later the next one to hit ebay went for £900 (mine is available for £1k if anyone is interested :wink: )

Condition is everything, any pin holes and the figure crashes in price, despite the fact that the card is still very displayable. Also some of the sales will be the same card as it passes between buyers, which skews the figures a bit. Also my searches are based on email alerts so there will be a fair few sales that I have missed.

If you are after a nice Palitoy logo and don't mind a yellow bubble 4-LOM or BBG can still be had for £50ish, which is really good value for what are still rare cards

*edit palitoyjunkie the selling prices of the last few BBGs in date order were:

£35.00
£56.00
£78.00 (clear bubble)
£78.00 (clear bubble)
£40.00
£113.00 (AFA 80 and a yellow bubble - lunacy :lol: )

a clear bubble sold last week for £87 which is a fair price IMO.

ebay doesn't lie :wink:

 

[Lee Gregory]

Andy that 30bk Yoda is more like c0.6 rather than c6, trust me

It's funny how peoples opinions differ on what they consider easy,or hard to find. Gary mentions 41 Leia Hoth being quite easy, I have ever only come across one for sale and bagged it,never seen another. I suppose it is just depends on your personal experience and what comes your way.

We could go slighty off topic,in typical SWF fashion, and discuss SW characters on ESB cards, I was trying to put a run together a whileback but gave up. I think I still have 7 or so on a 41 back

Prices are probably even higher than ESB characters in my experience.

 

[spoons]

Andy that 30bk Yoda is more like c0.6 rather than c6, trust me

It's funny how peoples opinions differ on what they consider easy,or hard to find. Gary mentions 41 Leia Hoth being quite easy, I have ever only come across one for sale and bagged it,never seen another. I suppose it is just depends on your personal experience and what comes your way.

We could go slighty off topic,in typical SWF fashion, and discuss SW characters on ESB cards, I was trying to put a run together a whileback but gave up. I think I still have 7 or so on a 41 back

Prices are probably even higher than ESB characters in my experience.

I wondered if that Yoda was yours :lol: I thought it was still a steal

These are my ebay thoughts for 12 and 20 backs:

12 backs

Stormtrooper 12b x 6 (£195-£630)
C3P0 (mostly b) x 5 (£100-£400)
R2D2 (mostly 12b) x 5 (£125-£425)
Sandpeople 12a x 3 (£155-£450)
Darth Vader 12b x 3 (£180-£425)
Princess Leia 12b x 2 (£650-£715)
Luke Skywalker 12a x 1 (£1,100)
Death Squad Commander 12b x1 (£365)
Han Solo x 1 (£173)
Jawa 12? x 1 (£335)

Not seen a Chewbacca or a Ben (apart from one opened one, which sold for £200)

20 backs

Power Droid x 2 (£95-£160)
Hammerhead x 2 (£200-£390)
Death Star Droid x 1 (£295)

I hadn't appreciated how few of these I'd seen until now and my records date back to about August 2009

 

[palitoyjunky]

Here's my try at the most common figs and prices based on ebay sales over the last few years

30backs

seen one each of

21B - £920
Han Hoth - £920
Lobot - £400
Luke Bespin - £1,040
Imperial Commander - £95 (replaced nameplate)
Yoda - £200 (C6ish)

41 backs in order of no. of ebay sales seen by me,

Lobot - x 4
Ugnaught - x 2
Imperial Commander - x 2
Han Hoth - x 1
AT-AT Driver - x 1
Imperial Stormtrooper - x 1
Han Bespin - x 1

Prices ranged from £27 (Lobot C8 with two pin holes) to £256 (AFA 80 Han Hoth)

45a in order of no. of ebay sales seen by me

4-LOM x 9
AT-AT Commander x 7
Black Bespin Guard x 6
TIE pilot x 5
R2-D2 x 3
Imp Commander x 2

Prices ranged from £50 (4-LOM crack at base of bubble) to £390 (minty TIE pilot - but another minty TIE pilot sold for £80)

Then one each of

Ben Kenobi - £800
Han Bespin - £100
Lobot - £125
Rebel Soldier - £205
Bespin Guard - £505
Luke Bespin - £410

As Lee and Gary say prices are all over the place and when there is a £200 variance between a TIE pilot there is no way of knowing what the next figure will go for.

Gary and I fought over a minty 30 back Han Hoth which ended up selling for less than £300, yet a year or so later the next one to hit ebay went for £900 (mine is available for £1k if anyone is interested :wink: )

Condition is everything, any pin holes and the figure crashes in price, despite the fact that the card is still very displayable. Also some of the sales will be the same card as it passes between buyers, which skews the figures a bit. Also my searches are based on email alerts so there will be a fair few sales that I have missed.

If you are after a nice Palitoy logo and don't mind a yellow bubble 4-LOM or BBG can still be had for £50ish, which is really good value for what are still rare cards

*edit palitoyjunkie the selling prices of the last few BBGs in date order were:

£35.00
£56.00
£78.00
£78.00
£40.00
£113.00

ebay doesn't lie :wink:

Exactly what condition were the examples that sold for £35 & £40??
:?:

 

[spoons]

Exactly what condition were the examples that sold for £35 & £40??
:?:

the £35 and £40 were both C8 with a small dent above the hanger - probably the same card

Here's the one I owned, which I bought and sold for around the £35 to £40 mark too

I've edited my post to show which examples had clear bubbles

 

[palitoyjunky]

Andy that 30bk Yoda is more like c0.6 rather than c6, trust me

It's funny how peoples opinions differ on what they consider easy,or hard to find. Gary mentions 41 Leia Hoth being quite easy, I have ever only come across one for sale and bagged it,never seen another. I suppose it is just depends on your personal experience and what comes your way.

We could go slighty off topic,in typical SWF fashion, and discuss SW characters on ESB cards, I was trying to put a run together a whileback but gave up. I think I still have 7 or so on a 41 back

Prices are probably even higher than ESB characters in my experience.

Indeed Lee, the general trend as you
know with SW characters on Empire and Jedi cards is that they command a premium compared to Empire characters on Empire cards and likewise with Jedi.