****ing idiots

Too right! If they are just toys then **** off and buy some Pokemon. Wankers!

As for opening recards - yes of course. The card is fake and worthless so go for it. Reseals are a bit less straightforward. You could end up damaging an original bubble/card. Removal would ruin the remaining print. Not sure why anyone would want to do this anyway. Carded figures are beautiful.
 
I had to post :oops:

The "they are only toys, it's meant to be fun" line made my blood boil to the point where I couldn't stop myself when I saw the reply button.

I very much agree with anyone here (or there) that want these ****wits to leave our hobby asap and I get pretty angry too but I read a post here on page 1 about hoping they get AIDS? Come on..grow up - that's not funny or cool.

Anyway, back to the scheduled twat bashing! :)
 
Joe said:
I had to post :oops:

The "they are only toys, it's meant to be fun" line made my blood boil to the point where I couldn't stop myself when I saw the reply button.

Completed agree Joe and I almost wrote a post similar to Todd above but just managed to stop myself before I clicked the submit button.

Some people just beggar belief :evil: :twisted:
 
I don't know how you can stand talking to those morons. Just one page of reading leaves one weary and exasperated at the sheer level of stupidity.
Iain and Joe posted well made thoughts and most of what we're saying (on this side of logic) is unarguable (to most intelligent people) but you're really trying to teach dogs to meow.
I only read posts on the site when they are posted here (and even then only sometimes) and every time i do it's moron after moron posting twaddle after twaddle.
So glad i live in England. (sorry Todd :lol: )
 
It was "dog **** eye AIDS" actually Joe, which is a common term of abuse on a football forum I frequent; it's supposed to reference the fact that things they [whoever it's applied to] see are good, are actually not. I'm not funny or cool but that's more than acceptable to me! :D
 
theslider said:
It was "dog **** eye AIDS" actually Joe, which is a common term of abuse on a football forum I frequent; it's supposed to reference the fact that things they [whoever it's applied to] see are good, are actually not. I'm not funny or cool but that's more than acceptable to me! :D

I was actually gonna mention that. It wasn't AIDS it was Dog **** Eye AIDS. Totally different thing. :lol:
 
PGowdy said:
theslider said:
It was "dog **** eye AIDS" actually Joe, which is a common term of abuse on a football forum I frequent; it's supposed to reference the fact that things they [whoever it's applied to] see are good, are actually not. I'm not funny or cool but that's more than acceptable to me! :D

I was actually gonna mention that. It wasn't AIDS it was Dog **** Eye AIDS. Totally different thing. :lol:

Is right Pete!

Just spent the last half hour reading the thread and there are some good opinions on there but there are some utter, utter clowns.
 
My two pennarth :D

To remove a figure from any original card, is plain stupid.

Original Mocs
in a rough state, tears, sticker scarring, dings, splits or slices, ....they are STILL original, and to me are a way of stating out collecting mocs on a budget....there is a market for these are there are many collectors, like myself, that are happy to have them.
Therefore the more" accepting" of these rough cards, by collectors the better.

Any rough Mocs that collectors have should be traded/sold on forums ( like this) to genuine collectors. I know this wont solve the problem, but would help.

Reseals
Done well. ( or badly for that matter, as you can attempt to improve the reseal)

As long as the piece is sold as a reseal and no one is passing of at full MOC price. Again there is a market for these.

Original on repro card....WRONG

There is no reason not to pull this off the card as Barry says its a repro card, the damage has already been done.

I think, like many other things, awareness is the key, and the more collectors, new to the hobby, are educated in regard to the whole issue, the better it will become.

There will always be demand for minty figs, therefore there will always sadly be tossers, who don't give a monkeys about the hobby, that will look to make a quick buck


Having said all of this, the point in question here, is so called "collectors" discussing the rights and wrongs of the hobby.....come on a blind dimwit, that has a passing interest in the hobby, knows that pulling a figure from an original card, is doing wrong.

Sadly, this won't go away
 
Goodness me! This DaxWills is the biggest wanker of them all! :shock:

"You know if you have the money (and it's not cheap) you can still buy 1952 Topps baseball packs? First Topps set ever produced. Lots of key cards in there, including the rookie card of some scrurb named Mickey Mantle. Now what would cause a person to open the pack though? They're exceedingly rare. They're cost prohibitive. Plus the odds of pulling a key card are VERY stacked against you. Maybe the same reason people buy 86 Fleer Basketball packs (Jordan's rookie) or anything else. It's the thrill of being a little kid again and opening the thing. Maybe they got an insane deal on the figure because it looks like it lost a fight to a bull. Maybe they're just anal retentive and want the most mint condition rancor keeper they can get. Frankly, WHO CARES. It is their money to spend. It is their collection to collect. It is their property to do with as they please.

No one has the right dictate to anyone else what is the "right" way to collect. Would I question the intelligence of someone who would buy an AFA 95 12 back set and then open them anyways? Yeah that would be rather stupid. Would it actually BOTHER me? No. Because when I said it's supposed to be FUN I meant it. Fun means not taking this too seriously. They're plastic toys not DaVinci's drawings. Priorities man. "
 
PGowdy said:
I don't know how you can stand talking to those morons. Just one page of reading leaves one weary and exasperated at the sheer level of stupidity.
Iain and Joe posted well made thoughts and most of what we're saying (on this side of logic) is unarguable (to most intelligent people) but you're really trying to teach dogs to meow.
I only read posts on the site when they are posted here (and even then only sometimes) and every time i do it's moron after moron posting twaddle after twaddle.
So glad i live in England. (sorry Todd :lol: )

No apology necessary....and you wonder why I call a UK forum home....now you see why.
 
x-pack said:
Too right! If they are just toys then **** off and buy some Pokemon. Wankers!

As for opening recards - yes of course. The card is fake and worthless so go for it. Reseals are a bit less straightforward. You could end up damaging an original bubble/card. Removal would ruin the remaining print. Not sure why anyone would want to do this anyway. Carded figures are beautiful.

When you open a reseal you are generally reopening it along a line where it was opened originally, so no further damage occurs. And reseals can also be improved, check
out my palitoy vinyl cape jawa for example:-

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4310&p=114048&hilit=dash#p114048

cheers Jason
 
mr_palitoy said:
x-pack said:
Too right! If they are just toys then **** off and buy some Pokemon. Wankers!

As for opening recards - yes of course. The card is fake and worthless so go for it. Reseals are a bit less straightforward. You could end up damaging an original bubble/card. Removal would ruin the remaining print. Not sure why anyone would want to do this anyway. Carded figures are beautiful.

When you open a reseal you are generally reopening it along a line where it was opened originally, so no further damage occurs. And reseals can also be improved, check
out my palitoy vinyl cape jawa for example:-

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4310&p=114048&hilit=dash#p114048

cheers Jason


You're right, and the Jawa is really nice :) But it depends how they were resealed. There are a few that it's 50/50 whether I would open in order to improve the condition a bit more. If they were glued in place with strong glue or worse - selotaped :!: - then removing the bubble can damage the card further. When sticking the bubble back on matching the print underneath makes all the difference. Personally I bare that in mind when considering improvements as disturbing the bubble can remove even more of this print. That might sound incredibly anal but we all want the best we can get.
 
I agree do not open a moc.

I think, every day some vintage star wars toy get broken, damaged or lost :(

People open moc.
star wars toy get damaged or stolen in the mail.
water damage in houses damage or break vintage star wars items.
Tornados destroy houses with star wars toy inside the house and toy is destroyed.
A house burn down with star wars in it.
People make custom figures of vintage star wars (Not that I say there is something wrong with custom figures, some of them is pretty cool).

So I think every day we all lose some vintage star wars :cry:

So keep it all sealed :wink:
 
I really would love to rip the vocal cords from that Daxwills guy.....and break his fingers.

Nope never met any collectors concerned with preservation, you're the first champ. Here's a hint, if you think by taking a black/white position on things and taking an elitist attitude by telling other collectors how and what to collect is helping the hobby in any way you're sadly mistaken. What if the new collector what's a complete U90 graded set? Oh and the "slime" dealer who takes his non-moving product and turns it into things he can sell at a higher price probably doesn't care at all about the hobby, he's a dealer. But he's also being smart.

BTW you should check out the hot wheels collectors site. Friend of mine pointed out that there is an entire thread there dedicated to opening hot wheels from their packaging. Including some VERY rare pieces. Everyone there cheers it on. Wonder why the differences in opinion.

Either that or shove a case of hotwheels cars up his ass. :evil:
 
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