Contests on other forums

[tiefighterboy]

Why does it seem like contests on other forums are money making deals for people? I f you want to sell your item for the most...charge $30 a head and double your money. I like are free fun ones on here.

 

[Jedi_june]

I feel you on that tiefighter, I like the contest on here too their more genuine. And I just entered a contest and paid 30 :shock: and kind of regret it now cause if I loose I'm out 30 :shock: could have used that on a fig or figs I needed to complete my loose run. Not really going to rock with contest with fees anymore. :evil:

 

[aussiejames]

It's a raffle not a contest :wink: You know the odds before you play, you know what the prize is. You don't have to agree to the 'value' nor do you have to 'buy a ticket' . It's a gamble if you don't want to loose don't gamble

$1000 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281061834588?nma=true&si=xNtjcGpjdsQWzMdyJGwS4x%2BG3GI%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true

add grading & postage NOT = double :wink:
There's a 'waiting list' so it must be a reasonable risk to a few.

I love gambling

 

[walkie]

Nobody is forced to play. The main prize 'uzay bluestars' is worth a lot of $$$, not forgetting there will also be a 2nd and 3rd place prize. In the past the extra cash raised has gone to charity and someone ended up with an amazing buy.

Life is a gamble.

 

[plantman]

for me personally i would have said 100+ legit posts for something like that, imagine if some scabby twat won it who made 20 posts...pointless.

its a great prize, it should be for the regulars only though.

 

[mumbo]

I do like a gamble and ultimately its your own choice on whether you pay to play. My only concern would be the whole legitimacy of it all. Who are the independent adjudicators making sure there are no shenanigans :? I haven't seen where this comp is but what's to stop the organiser setting up the win for someone they know, getting the figure back and then splitting the entry fees?? Of course it's probably all above board but without these independent adjudicators I'd be wary.

 

[plantman]

and what if a "reglar" wins it, people are going to say that the 20 post wonders were never in with a shout anyway.

difficult to pull it off, maybe it should have been offered to members with 100 posts and have been on the forum for a year? like a secret one. i mean what if you piss one of these newbies off and they report the raffle as all payment have been gift ect.

 

[tundra9]

I think Johns raffle is a brilliant idea actually, he gets what he wants for the Bluestars,
and a lucky git gets a Bluestars for just 30 bucks.
You can flip it for 600 bucks in a heartbeat, or have some magnificent trade bait, or you're in the posession of a grail.

Looks like a win/win to me though.

Oh, and with the free contests on here, especially with draws made with a random number generator like the one I did,
what's to say I didn't fix the draw so the wanted entry won?
The same with the videoed draws, who's to say they didn't edit it to their preferred choices?

 

[JuniorChubb]

When I uploaded the video for the comp' I done, I was paranoid that a few moments on it looked staged

It was hard keeping an excited 7 year old to follow instructions in a room full of balloons, it was all good in the end though.

As for raffles, I will be doing a raffle type comp' soon, but its for a good cause. All will be revealed soon...

 

[mumbo]

All the comps on here are free and by entering them you are not risking being done over. On this other comp you are paying x to have a chance of winning so in theory could be tricked into entering thinking you have a chance when really it's just an elaborate scheme to make money. Like I said I haven't seen this other comp and do not know what rules have been stated and it's probably a case that the organisers are well known and can be trusted (like yourself so we know you didn't fix your own comp Jorn). So was really just throwing caution to the wind

 

[edd_jedi]

He needs to be careful though, it is ILLEGAL to run an unlicensed raffle unless ALL of the money goes on the prize and/or to charity. That means if he only paid $600 for it, even if it is now potentially worth the $1200 the raffle will make, that is not legal.

For the (much smaller) raffle I ran, 100% of the money was publicly accounted for. He should be able to do the same.

 

[tiefighterboy]

He needs to be careful though, it is ILLEGAL to run an unlicensed raffle unless ALL of the money goes on the prize and/or to charity. That means if he only paid $600 for it, even if it is now potentially worth the $1200 the raffle will make, that is not legal.

For the (much smaller) raffle I ran, 100% of the money was publicly accounted for. He should be able to do the same.

That was one of my points. I seen a guy at work get fired for running a raffle scheme....buy a TV for $150...sell tickets for $10 each...sell 100 of them...Instant profit of $900. BTW I am not trying tostart a forum war...just making an observation. I am not suggesting anything shady is going on here.

On a side note...this would be one hell of way to sell some items.

 

[Joe]

Something that I always wanted to ask about this type of raffle - do people feel it's ok if the person running the raffle says how much the item is worth? Meaning, how fair is it to say "I am holding a raffle for this figure which is worth $1000" when you are the one saying it's worth that amount?

Usually raffles take place with new goods as prizes so whether the prize is a bottle of plonk from the supermarket or a cuddly teddy bear, you know you can go to the shop and pay X for it whereas the Vintage market is up and down all the time. Not to mention the fact that the prize in a Vintage raffle might be "worth" X but it could have cost the owner a lot less.

Having said that, I don't think anybody takes part in these things without realising that the person doing the raffle is doing so in order to make the money they want for their items and I am sure there are plenty of people like AJ said that just love a flutter but at the same time it does raise some eyebrows when one takes place.

I am not a gambling man which is why I have never put in for something like this, my musings above are partly my own personal opinion but from speaking to other collectors I know others feel the same way.

I remember when Christian tried to raffle his AFA graded Trilogo Jawa on RS a few years back, he got some interest in the format but ultimately it was shut down for many of the reasons in this thread I would imagine (although apparently it was just because he didn't ask permission )

 

[Joe]

He needs to be careful though, it is ILLEGAL to run an unlicensed raffle unless ALL of the money goes on the prize and/or to charity. That means if he only paid $600 for it, even if it is now potentially worth the $1200 the raffle will make, that is not legal.

For the (much smaller) raffle I ran, 100% of the money was publicly accounted for. He should be able to do the same.

That was one of my points. I seen a guy at work get fired for running a raffle scheme....buy a TV for $150...sell tickets for $10 each...sell 100 of them...Instant profit of $900. BTW I am not trying tostart a forum war...just making an observation.

Lol yeah, probably best to cap your raffles at a certain amount of entries in case you end up with some spare lolly :lol:

 

[Stargeezer]

It's a raffle not a contest :wink: You know the odds before you play, you know what the prize is. You don't have to agree to the 'value' nor do you have to 'buy a ticket' . It's a gamble if you don't want to loose don't gamble

$1000 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281061834588?nma=true&si=xNtjcGpjdsQWzMdyJGwS4x%2BG3GI%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true

add grading & postage NOT = double :wink:
There's a 'waiting list' so it must be a reasonable risk to a few.

I love gambling

Check also for other ended blue stars auction none other reaches that 1000.
The one before that ended at $850 and there was even one at $250 so the average price is $700. Minus fees of 13.5% is approx $600. I my opinion John has hugely over valued his figure. I tried to make people aware of those fair values, but you can call it fun or whatever you want but like i said before, the only real winner is the Seller of the item, who happens to be the organizer of the raffle....

Great selling tactic though, but like others have said, probably illegal aswell.

 

[Stargeezer]

I think Johns raffle is a brilliant idea actually, he gets what he wants for the Bluestars,
and You can flip it for 600 bucks in a heartbeat...

Yep you can sell it in a heartbeat for 600 or make twice the value by organising a raffle. :twisted:

 

[shawn_k]

Most has been said already with how I feel about these raffles. A lot of the membership seems okay with them though, so it is what it is.

I will say though that I certainly felt a lot stronger about the community when it was about donated prizes and not about $$$. This one for example was all items donated by the mods/developers to give something back to those who were helping support the site.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1093-the-tig-2010-super-giant-raffle-results-thread-live-winner-updates-from-9pm-gmt-feel-free-to-discuss-the-raffle-on-this-thread

 

[mumbo]

Most has been said already with how I feel about these raffles. A lot of the membership seems okay with them though, so it is what it is.

I will say though that I certainly felt a lot stronger about the community when it was about donated prizes and not about $$$. This one for example was all items donated by the mods/developers to give something back to those who were helping support the site.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1093-the-tig-2010-super-giant-raffle-results-thread-live-winner-updates-from-9pm-gmt-feel-free-to-discuss-the-raffle-on-this-thread

Great comp, I was excited just reading through the thread and mods take note :wink:

 

[plantman]

i would be extremely surprised if one of the 20 post wonders or member who climbed out of the woodwork won it.

 

[walkie]

Really?? The last raffle was won my a 4 post wonder...

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t5177-anyone-in-for-a-raffle-princess-leia-12-a-back-takara-raffle-is-closed-winner-on-page-7?highlight=Raffle