another palitoy vinyl caped jawa on the bay....

I have seen the reseal figure in question and I saw nothing about it that suggested tampering.

1. The bubble is correct for a vinyl cape, and it is from the card in question
2. The source of the card came from a childhood collection that included reseals of the other 11 figures all resealed the same way.
3. The figures were not resealed by somebody with collector experience, card footers were left out and included in the accompanied playset box, and was resealed with cellotape
4. The Jawa cape was correct as was the gun
5. The Jawa also included the plastic separation sheet common on figures with vinyl capes to stop the cape sticking to the card.
6. The collection has no connection with Torres - so that is a moot point.
People can argue this forever, but things do turn up that havent been seen before even by experienced dealers and collectors, and frankly I can only go on what I have seen and what experience I have. Jim S saw the piece on the same day and saw no issues with it either. For the record it was a 12b back like the other reseal found (the Torres sourced MOC was also 12b but of course we shall discount that).

Lee
 
jaymassive619 said:
David Tree said:
True, and as mentioned, there is potentially a big one to break in a couple of months :wink:
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I want to know what this big thing is gonna be i take your in the know Dave?
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You mean you didn't know that Palitoy released Blue snaggletooth carded? :lol:
 
For those who haven´t read Jasons new post over at RS.

I have the piece in hand now. The most obvious thing about the piece is that it wasn't resealed by a collector. It has selloptape all the way round the bubble and has been done in a very shoddy manner.

I have PM'd Path about him saying this was a custom bubble he resealed to a palitoy card 2 years ago. His description of how he had done it and what distinguishing features the card has do not match the piece I have in hand as far as I can tell. I'm waiting for his response to the doubts I have raised about this claim.

In terms of what happens next, I'm going to take some detailed pictures of how the piece looks now. Then I'm going to remove all of the sellotape and make a proper job of resealing it with a footplate, and the film sleeve in the correct place behind the figure. I'm also going to see how a cloth cape jawa looks inside the vc bubble to see if Lee's claim that the bubble isn't big enough is true.

It's going to be a couple of weeks before I do all if that.

In the mean time, here's wishing everyone a happy new year for Thursday!

Jason
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Lafos said:
For those who haven´t read Jasons new post over at RS.

I have the piece in hand now. The most obvious thing about the piece is that it wasn't resealed by a collector. It has selloptape all the way round the bubble and has been done in a very shoddy manner.

I have PM'd Path about him saying this was a custom bubble he resealed to a palitoy card 2 years ago. His description of how he had done it and what distinguishing features the card has do not match the piece I have in hand as far as I can tell. I'm waiting for his response to the doubts I have raised about this claim.

In terms of what happens next, I'm going to take some detailed pictures of how the piece looks now. Then I'm going to remove all of the sellotape and make a proper job of resealing it with a footplate, and the film sleeve in the correct place behind the figure. I'm also going to see how a cloth cape jawa looks inside the vc bubble to see if Lee's claim that the bubble isn't big enough is true.

It's going to be a couple of weeks before I do all if that.

In the mean time, here's wishing everyone a happy new year for Thursday!

Jason
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Lafos.

I have read the whole thread on RS. It sounds like everyone is debating over a recard.
My money is on it being a fake anyway.

Cheers.

Grant.
 
I don't think Jason would have parted with such a large amount of cash for a recard or a fake Grant. Lee Bullock has also had it in his hand as well as you can see above. Its obviously a reseal but that bubble goes with that card (given what Jason and Lee have observed) and that is what is important.

Its clear that some vinyl cape bubbles appeared on Palitoy 12 Back Jawas as theres been several noted examples. What is not clear is what Jawa was originally in that bubble? Would a cloth cape Jawa even fit? It'll be interesting to see what Jason's analysis reveals :wink:
 
Lafos said:
Darth Wensleydale said:
What is not clear is what Jawa was originally in that bubble?
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This is the master question on this debate.
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Iv got an open mind as much as the rest of you on this but i still think its a custom job.
Its been said many times already that no eveidence has turned up to verify these palitoy Vinyl caped Jawas.
If i were a Palitoy collector i would be hoping one never turned up.
The likely hood of never getting my hands on one would be about 1000% due to the price that one would be and the lack of examples floating about.
Long live Kenner Vinyl caped Jawas. :wink:

Cheers.

Grant.
 
AnakinPOTF said:
Lafos said:
Darth Wensleydale said:
What is not clear is what Jawa was originally in that bubble?
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This is the master question on this debate.
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Iv got an open mind as much as the rest of you on this but i still think its a custom job.
Its been said many times already that no eveidence has turned up to verify these palitoy Vinyl caped Jawas.
If i were a Palitoy collector i would be hoping one never turned up.
The likely hood of never getting my hands on one would be about 1000% due to the price that one would be and the lack of examples floating about.
Long live Kenner Vinyl caped Jawas. :wink:

Cheers.

Grant.
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Well, as DWD as just stated evidence has turned that suggest it's a real possibility and I don't believe any evidence has surfaced to verify they don't exist. It will continue to be an interesting debate, but one mainly for palitoy collectors I'd have thought.

With regards to Jason's, I think the fact that Lee Bullock and I believe Jim stevenson have both seen it and verified that the bubble came with that card most likely rules out the fact that it's a fake card/bubble match.

What remains to be seen as a number have stated is whether the bubble will hold a cloth caped jawa. Arnaud, who has the sealed bubble version (though open at the back) stated that he could not fit a cloth caped Jawa in his one, suggesting that it originally came with the VC Jawa.

I'm not sure what will make me 100% convinced. I feel that, like most people who seemed to have chimed into this debate, I am influenced by the traditional belief that this figure did not exist, should not exist, cannot exist and does not exist. And I think that will mean someone will have to go to extraordinary lengths before the existence is universally 100% accepted
 
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I'm not sure what will make me 100% convinced. I feel that, like most people who seemed to have chimed into this debate, I am influenced by the traditional belief that this figure did not exist, should not exist, cannot exist and does not exist. And I think that will mean someone will have to go to extraordinary lengths before the existence is universally 100% accepted
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Exactly what I think.
 
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