Is my Chewbacca MOC a TT?

ScruffyLookingNH · Sep 17, 2015

Robstyley said:
inzaman said:

This might be a daft question, but say if you worked in forensics for the police and could get hold of TTs finger prints you could open a few of these and fingerprint them. That would be absolute cast iron proof then that there is a definetly spurious carded figures out there :?:

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What a strange thing to say.. !

Where's that Columbo picture someone posted a while back :lol:

Why? Stange from a motivating factor to peruse this perspective? i.e. the motivator here appears to be "this will prove there's dodgy recards out there" as opposed to "let's bring a criminal to justice for defrauding numerous collectors out of 100s and 1,000s of pounds, some members of this forum members here".

Or a strange thing to even consider in terms of fingerprints?

inzaman · Sep 17, 2015

edd_jedi said:
Well it's actually a good idea, however the police only have fingerprints of previous criminals. Shall I camp outside his stall and grab his used coffee cup :lol:

We are onto something here, now we just need our own forensics expert and we could have a scoop

inzaman · Sep 17, 2015

edd_jedi said:
Well it's actually a good idea, however the police only have fingerprints of previous criminals. Shall I camp outside his stall and grab his used coffee cup :lol:

We are onto something here, now we just need our own forensics expert and we could have a scoop

edd_jedi · Sep 17, 2015

Has anyone ever seen a figure inside a bubble where you can see a finger print on it? I think I've seen prints on tape holding weapons before, but never on a figure.

itfciain · Sep 17, 2015

I like the idea but think you would struggle to prove anything - even if you could get a legitimate copy of his fingerprints (doubt he would give it voluntarily!) and you did manage to find his finger print on the inside of one of the MOCs know to be a TT then it wouldn't prove a great deal. I think we can all safely say that he did reseal some of these but what we can't be 100% certain of is the extent to which this one done - short of opening every suspected card in the hope of finding his finger print !

Andreg · Sep 18, 2015

A toni for sure. I can confirm it just by looking at the first picture for 1,5 seconds.

Although, I´ll step in and take it of your hands for the money you paid for it. I think it looks cool regardless.... 8)

M4K3R1 · Sep 18, 2015

For what it is worth, this type of long thin bubble is prominent on Palitoy 65 Bandolier offer Vaders, and also on Palitoy 45 Nien Numb offer Vaders,
the seals on both 65 and 45 Vaders are an exact match to this Chewy, it does not have the gap in the seal on the bottom of the bubble and are completely smooth, even the Palitoy 65 Chewy card with Vader figure error uses this bubble,
so my question is, why is it any different when it comes to Chewy or any others with this bubble. It just seems that things get riden off as TT way too quick. The gap in the seal at the bottom of the bubble on Jasons photo of Vader card backs should be from a twin stem bubble, im guessing the card back is a 45?
Also Palitoy 65 and 45 vaders have many different bubble types, twin stem, long thin, short thin, trilogo, short fat, squared corners, rounded corners are all found on 65 and 45, so again my question is, why is it any different for other charecters.

Mr-shifter · Sep 18, 2015

His finger prints are easy to get. Just buy four or five nice flat items from his stall in snoopers. His will be on all of them.

How easy it is to fingerprint a loose figure though, remains to be seen.

edd_jedi · Sep 18, 2015

There are examples of non-pronged bubbles with the double gap at the bottom of the seal, I don't have any photos to hand but I've definitely seen them. So it's fairly accepted that the same heat press was used.

_Lee_ · Sep 18, 2015

Andreg said:
A toni for sure. I can confirm it just by looking at the first picture for 1,5 seconds.

Although, I´ll step in and take it of your hands for the money you paid for it. I think it looks cool regardless.... 8)

:shock: REALLY???

I think you need to step back and look again as that is a very bold statement to make.

_Lee_ · Sep 18, 2015

M4K3R1 said:
For what it is worth, this type of long thin bubble is prominent on Palitoy 65 Bandolier offer Vaders, and also on Palitoy 45 Nien Numb offer Vaders,
the seals on both 65 and 45 Vaders are an exact match to this Chewy, it does not have the gap in the seal on the bottom of the bubble and are completely smooth, even the Palitoy 65 Chewy card with Vader figure error uses this bubble,
so my question is, why is it any different when it comes to Chewy or any others with this bubble. It just seems that things get riden off as TT way too quick. The gap in the seal at the bottom of the bubble on Jasons photo of Vader card backs should be from a twin stem bubble, im guessing the card back is a 45?
Also Palitoy 65 and 45 vaders have many different bubble types, twin stem, long thin, short thin, trilogo, short fat, squared corners, rounded corners are all found on 65 and 45, so again my question is, why is it any different for other charecters.

Excellent post

edd_jedi · Sep 18, 2015

I think we're going round in circles here

I agree that nobody can 100% prove it's a Toni, but there's plenty of evidence and research out there so that doesn't automatically mean it's 100% genuine either. Sadly many ESB and ROTJ Palitoy MOCs are going to be forever tainted.

_Lee_ · Sep 18, 2015

...twin stem, long thin, short thin, trilogo, short fat, squared corners, rounded corners...

Are we talking about bubbles here because it sounds like women in Luton on a Saturday night

Pomse2001 · Sep 18, 2015

I was thinking why is the old TT thread not at the top in vintage collecting chat ?

There is a lot of great info in that guide

Robstyley · Sep 18, 2015

Some comparison shots of my Chewy and Vader:

Robstyley · Sep 18, 2015

Some more:

Robstyley · Sep 18, 2015

I fully respect everything anyones told me about these but where I'm struggling is how similar they look. The bubble placement is almost identical. The printing on the Vader card is about 1mm higher than on the Chewy card but the bubbles are in the same place. I was told Vader is not on the list but my opinion is they are either both OK or both Tonis? Thoughts..

Edit: This concurs with what M4K3R1 said also.

Robstyley · Sep 18, 2015

Just noticed as well the bubble placement on Damiens' Chewy is a good 2mm higher than on mine, don't know if that means anything.

_Lee_ · Sep 18, 2015

There are some Palitoy ROTJ Chewbacca cardbacks on Ebay at the mo which could help with this

M4K3R1 · Sep 19, 2015

_Lee_ said:
...twin stem, long thin, short thin, trilogo, short fat, squared corners, rounded corners...

Are we talking about bubbles here because it sounds like women in Luton on a Saturday night

:lol: :lol: :lol: I'll usually go for the short fat one, 99.9% success rate.

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