Frunkstar
Grand Master
D'oh, I posted on that thread as I thought it was current, but have amended it, must check dates
I agree in what you are saying in some respects Shawn, but not all.
Yes any business has to expand to survive & to make a profit, but to change policy as & when its in your financial favor to do so is IMHO another matter entirely & if they are now willing to grade (are they??) Kenner issued baggies, then why not Euro issued baggie, surely that's just discrimination?, I know Billy Boy did some damage to the baggie side of the hobby & threw a few things in to question, but from what I understand from my reading he only used one kind of palitoy baggie for his fakes, ones he got as overstock & those being the same as the Nein Numb on the other thread I posted earlier - Tape sealed light blue small horizontal font, so why all other tape sealed Euro issued baggie that are tape sealed are a no no is what I would not understand m8.
I also do not want it turning in to some huge & uncomfortable debate, but it is a question worthy of discussion IMO & a point that should be brought up as to why??.
As for the U grade point you have raised, yes both companies will U grade, but AFA will grad ANYTHING sent in no matter what regardless of condition or rarity, hell if that palitoy jawa had been sent in for U grading I bet they would have done so within a heartbeat which is IMO where the 2 companies differ, I also agree that UKG are doing pretty much the same as AFA in terms of encasing figures & grading them but IMO there was a real need for that for many reasons not least of which were cost & security, I for one would not feel comfortable sending in rare & expensive items to the states & back in case they were damaged & the shipping is pretty steep.
UKG will (as far as I am aware) only U grade an item is the packaging is trashed to the point of it having lost all its value (to most collectors), they will also U grade multi-packs/mailers but only open the outer packaging & will not remove the figures from the baggies like AFA do, I know that's a double edged sword with some collectors still thinking negatively about it being done, but I for one do not like to look at a sealed box, a different matter with vehicles (for me at least) but you see where I am going with this.
No company are perfect & I would have nothing against AFA if they actually gave a stuff about what they are doing & did not keep making these rather stupid (IMO) school boy errors - romba with a chirpa hood FFS!
I agree in what you are saying in some respects Shawn, but not all.
Yes any business has to expand to survive & to make a profit, but to change policy as & when its in your financial favor to do so is IMHO another matter entirely & if they are now willing to grade (are they??) Kenner issued baggies, then why not Euro issued baggie, surely that's just discrimination?, I know Billy Boy did some damage to the baggie side of the hobby & threw a few things in to question, but from what I understand from my reading he only used one kind of palitoy baggie for his fakes, ones he got as overstock & those being the same as the Nein Numb on the other thread I posted earlier - Tape sealed light blue small horizontal font, so why all other tape sealed Euro issued baggie that are tape sealed are a no no is what I would not understand m8.
I also do not want it turning in to some huge & uncomfortable debate, but it is a question worthy of discussion IMO & a point that should be brought up as to why??.
As for the U grade point you have raised, yes both companies will U grade, but AFA will grad ANYTHING sent in no matter what regardless of condition or rarity, hell if that palitoy jawa had been sent in for U grading I bet they would have done so within a heartbeat which is IMO where the 2 companies differ, I also agree that UKG are doing pretty much the same as AFA in terms of encasing figures & grading them but IMO there was a real need for that for many reasons not least of which were cost & security, I for one would not feel comfortable sending in rare & expensive items to the states & back in case they were damaged & the shipping is pretty steep.
UKG will (as far as I am aware) only U grade an item is the packaging is trashed to the point of it having lost all its value (to most collectors), they will also U grade multi-packs/mailers but only open the outer packaging & will not remove the figures from the baggies like AFA do, I know that's a double edged sword with some collectors still thinking negatively about it being done, but I for one do not like to look at a sealed box, a different matter with vehicles (for me at least) but you see where I am going with this.
No company are perfect & I would have nothing against AFA if they actually gave a stuff about what they are doing & did not keep making these rather stupid (IMO) school boy errors - romba with a chirpa hood FFS!