Which teams 'should' be in the Premier League?

[edd_jedi]

What's all this Luton nonsense??! :shock: :lol:

:lol: Well to me they are a big team. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Luton_Town_F.C._seasons

They were in the top flight between 1982 and 1996 (15 seasons) and finished in the top half of the table 3 times. That's better than the likes of West Ham have done in recent years! (who I also consider a 'proper' top flight team.)

 

[itfciain]

IPSWICH TOWN FOOTBALL CLUB

 

[.Q.]

Yowza Iain! :lol:

One of my second teams is Charlton, it's be nice to see them do well again. Another is Derby County, a club with great heritage and a lovely ground.

A mate of mine is mad for Scarborough Athletic (managed by the gloriously named Rudy Funk!), and I sometimes go along to see the non-league mayhem. They won the Northern Counties East League Premier Division so are promoted to Northern Premier League Division One North, so it may be some time before top flight status!

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Saw Scaraboro play Heanor Town (2 mins walk from house) They won 6-0 in the cup and played fantastic football could easily be in the BSN soon (BlueSquare North 8)

 

[Richard_H]

Gateshead!!!


Well Iain started it.

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Alfreton!!!!!

and I will finish it :lol: :lol: :lol:

because I will eat my hat because that will never happen! :lol:

 

[.Q.]

I've seen a few lower league games in the last year or so, and mostly the football is dire but Scarborough are actually pretty good to watch, good value entertainment. They're building a new ground too so good luck to the Seadogs!

 

[PGowdy]

In all seriousness tho, i think a lot of the teams that "should" be in an "All Time Top Division" (which is what we're discussing i assume) are currently still in the top division of english football.
You've got the 7 teams who have been ever-present in the Premier League since it began: Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Everton and Villa. Not only have they always been in the premier league but all have a long history of success (except Spurs who have a long history of a lack of success :roll: ) in the top flight. All 7 have won the top division on several occasions. Man Utd (20), Liverpool (18), Arsenal (12), Everton (9), Villa (7), Chelsea (4), Spurs (2)

I would also add to those 7 (from teams currectly in the top flight), Sunderland who have been in and out of the top flight foever and won it 6 times (tho a million years ago) and Newcastle who equal Chelsea's 4 top flight wins and played a big part in the early Premier league before falling away. After all those i'd put Man City.

You've then got those teams that aren't in the top flight at the moment but have had success in the past: Blackburn (3, including the premier league once), Leeds (3, one the last league before the Premier league started and have finished runners up a bunch of times) and then probably Nottingham Forrest.
After that possibly Sheffield Wednesday, Wolves, Ipswich...

The last 4 spots i'd give to West Ham, West Brom, Derby...
The i'm really struggling... Leicester, Portsmouth. Southampton, QPR, Norwich, Burnley. Any one of those will do.

So your 'All time top division' league would look something like this... (in rough order of historical importance/relevance and achievements)

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal
4. Everton
5. Aston Villa
6. Spurs
7. Chelsea
8. Leeds
9. Sunderland
10. Nottingham Forrest
11. Man City
12. Blackburn
13. Wolves
14. Sheffield Wednesday
15. Newcastle
16. West Brom
17. Derby
18. Ipswich
19. West Ham
20. Leicester, Portsmouth. Southampton, Norwich, Burnley (tied)

 

[weasel]

Gotta disagree with you there Pete, no way are that bunch of cunts top in order of historical importance/relevance!

Stick them last, on the grounds they are a bunch of cunts, managed by a sour faced ****, supported by cunts, and owned by an American **** :lol:


Other than that, cant argue too much with your logic.