What We Know About Cardback Blister Codes

[RKW1138]

"Single Stem" bubbles on ESB 45 back cards

All my Palitoy, Parker and Clipper cards, that have or had a "Single Stem" bubble, have those bubble marked with a number from 01 to 015
For example :

"01" and "03" AT-AT Commander, Bespin Security Guard
"02" Cloud Car Pilot
"03" Leia Organa Bespin
"04" Han Solo Original
"012" Death Star Droid
"013" Tie Fighter Pilot
"015" C-3PO Removable Limbs

Panastur Posted the above about blister codes on 45bk cards and it made me think about some of the codes on 65bk & 77bk cards. Below is a list of ROTJ cards that I started to compile and it looks like the Tie Pilot always has code 013A stamped on the blister. Could others confirm for the figures listed above and below that have blister codes if yours also have the same codes across all cardbacks.

Kenner ROTJ
Item No, Description, Card Serial No, Card Back, Blister Code
70030, Tie Fighter Pilot, 0175-258-02, 65A, 013A
69420, R2-D2 (Sensor scope), 0175-263-02, 65A, 012A
69430, C-3PO (Removable Limbs), 0175-264-02, 65A, 015
39389, Imperial Commander, 0175-255-05, 77A, 013A
71600, 2-1B, 0175-256-05, 77A, 03B
69610, Luke Skywalker (Hoth), 0175-261-05, 77A, 03B

Palitoy ROTJ
Description, Card Serial No, Card Back, Blister Code
Ree-Yees, ROJ/2 HN, 65A, 016A
Klaatu, ROJ/2 HN, 65A, 01?A


* Red = ToyToni
* Yellow = Possible identification error

Blister ESB 01, ROTJ 01?
AT-AT Commander
Bespin Security Guard (black)

Blister ESB 02, ROTJ 02?
Chewbacca
Cloud Car Pilot
Death Star Droid
Han Solo Hoth

Blister ESB 03, ROTJ 03A, ROTJ 03B
2-1B
AT-AT Commander
Bespin Security Guard
Bossk
Lando Calrissian
Leia Organa Bespin
Luke Skywalker
Luke Skywalker Hoth
Stormtrooper (03A)
Tie Fighter Pilot

Blister ESB 04, ROTJ 04A
Chief Chirpa (04A)
Han Solo
Luke Skywalker

Blister ESB 05, ROTJ 05?


Blister ESB 06, ROTJ 06?
Dengar

Blister ESB 07, ROTJ 07?


Blister ESB 08, ROTJ 08?
Darth Vader
FX7

Blister ESB 09, ROTJ 09?
IG-88

Blister ESB 10, ROTJ 10?


Blister ESB 11, ROTJ 11?


Blister ESB 12, ROTJ 12A
Artoo Detoo (R2-D2) (With Sensorscope)

Blister ESB 13, ROTJ 13A, ROTJ 13C
4-LOM
Imperial Commander
Luke Skywalker Jedi (13C)
Ree-Yees
Tie Fighter Pilot
Weequay

Blister ESB 14, ROTJ 14?


Blister ESB 15, ROTJ 15A
C-3PO Removable Limbs
Klaatu

Blister ROTJ 16A
Ree-Yees

 

[spoons]

Missed this

Han Hoth on ESB Kenner 45, 47 and 48 all 02 bubbles and slightly flattened numbers

Questionable 45b Palitoy Bossk, 03 bubble with flattened numbers

?Assumed genuine GM 45 Han Hoth, 03 bubble with raised numbers (bubble too small)

 

[mr_palitoy]

"Single Stem" bubbles on ESB 45 back cards

All my Palitoy, Parker and Clipper cards, that have or had a "Single Stem" bubble, have those bubble marked with a number from 01 to 015
For example :

"01" and "03" AT-AT Commander, Bespin Security Guard
"02" Cloud Car Pilot
"03" Leia Organa Bespin
"04" Han Solo Original
"012" Death Star Droid
"013" Tie Fighter Pilot
"015" C-3PO Removable Limbs

Panastur Posted the above about blister codes on 45bk cards and it made me think about some of the codes on 65bk & 77bk cards. Below is a list of ROTJ cards that I started to compile and it looks like the Tie Pilot always has code 013A stamped on the blister. Could others confirm for the figures listed above and below that have blister codes if yours also have the same codes across all cardbacks.

Kenner ROTJ
Item No, Description, Card Serial No, Card Back, Blister Code
70030, Tie Fighter Pilot, 0175-258-02, 65A, 013A
69420, R2-D2 (Sensor scope), 0175-263-02, 65A, 012A
69430, C-3PO (Removable Limbs), 0175-264-02, 65A, 015
39389, Imperial Commander, 0175-255-05, 77A, 013A
71600, 2-1B, 0175-256-05, 77A, 03B
69610, Luke Skywalker (Hoth), 0175-261-05, 77A, 03B

Palitoy ROTJ
Description, Card Serial No, Card Back, Blister Code
Ree-Yees, ROJ/2 HN, 65A, 016A
Klaatu, ROJ/2 HN, 65A, 01?A

What exactly are these 2 Paitoy ROTJ bubbles?

This is the full list for palitoy 45b:-

Han Solo used 04, Death Star Droid used 02, C-3PO (Removable Limbs) used 015, AT-AT Commander used 01 & 03, Artoo Detoo (R2-D2) (With Sensorscope) used 12, Bespin Security Guard (Black) used 01, TIE Fighter Pilot used 13, Cloud Car Pilot used 02 & 03, Luke Skywalker (Hoth Battle Gear) used 03 and 4-LOM used 13.

cheers Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

Got the ree yees:-

cheers Jason

 

[Grant_C]

I'm sorry, im a little confused.

What details are you looking for?

 

[mr_palitoy]

Have updated my guide with the ree yees bubble:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65acardback.htm

Any idea what the number on the Klaatu bubble is? Got 01?A, any examples?

cheers Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

Kenner ESB 48 backs use the same bubbles as palitoy 45bs:-

Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

From Lee's auction in Otober, lando 45c with a 03A bubble:-

cheers Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

03A also mentioned here:-

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1018025/

cheers Jason

 

[aussiejames]

Palitoy ESB45B (bubble number)

AT-AT Commander- 03
FX-7-  08
Bespin guard black- 01

 

[RKW1138]

Keep those numbers coming

Looks like the factory added A or B after each number for the ROTJ wave.

So far it seems only Palitoy cards that have HN on the back have numbered bubbles which I believe HN means they were carded outside the UK. Correct?

My Klatuu has a number but I can't make out the number after the 1. Both my Klatuu and Ree-Yees have the kenner waffle pattern seal.

 

[aussiejames]

Isn't HN a factory code, HG, HT, etc.

 

[RKW1138]

Isn't HN a factory code, HG, HT, etc.

I'm not sure but it would be interesting to know what they stood for.

Maybe T= Taiwan, G= Germany and N= Netherlands?

 

[mr_palitoy]

Isn't HN a factory code, HG, HT, etc.

I'm not sure but it would be interesting to know what they stood for.

Maybe T= Taiwan, G= Germany and N= Netherlands?

They are all far east palitoy factories.

From my guide-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65acardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65ccardback.htm

You can see the letters on the back match up with the Made in.... on the front.

So:-

HN = Hong Kong
HG = China
TJ = Taiwan
HT = only seen on 65A Biker Scout so far, another factory in Hong Kong or China?

cheers Jason

 

[Vernon]

On Palitoy cards I have:

Imperial Commander ESB (Bounty Hunter offer) '01' (waffle pattern seal)
Bespin Sec Guard (Black) (Bounty Hunter offer) '01' (waffle pattern seal)
At At Driver ESB 41back too faint to see...maybe a '0' maybe a '6' (waffle pattern seal)

Imp Tie Fighter Pilot ESB 45b '03' (Toni) (lined seal)
Bossk ESB 45b '03' (Toni) (lined seal)

Luke Hoth 45b (Vectis 18 sticker) '03' (smooth seal)

Ree-Yees 65 (N/N offer ROJ/2 HN) '013A' (waffle pattern seal)
weequay 65 (N/N offer ROJ/2 HN) '013A' (waffle pattern seal)
Klattu 65 (N/N offer ROJ/2 HN) '015A' (waffle pattern seal)
Luke Jedi 65 (N/N offer ROJ/2 HN) '013C' on bottom not right hand side (waffle pattern seal)
Chief Chirpa 65 (N/N offer ROJ/2 HN) '04 A' on bottom not right hand side (waffle pattern seal)

Leia Boushh 65 (Bandolier offer ROJ/2) (wearing helmet) no number (smooth seal) sturdy bubble
Lando Skiff 65 (Bandolier offer ROJ/2) (wearing helmet) no number (smooth seal) sturdy bubble

Let me know if Ive missed anything.

 

[Grant_C]

I'm sorry, im a little confused.

What details are you looking for?

Is it single stem palitoys or kenners as well?

 

[spoons]

Any Pal or Kenner numbered bubble would be good

 

[Grant_C]

Ok-

I have noticed that single stem is used almost always on SW/ESB but hardly ever on ROTJ Kenner/Palitoy.

If you don't count Kenner SW/ESB/POTF then the single stem MOCs I have from Palitoy= 1 (TFP Toni) Kenner= 3, out of a possible 100ish.

Not a lot of single stem on ROTJ. Maybe everyone knows this already :?

01: ROTJ IG-88 Kenner 77 Back 09 Bubble single Stem (actually bought from TT in the 90's)
02: ESB Dengar Kenner 41 Back 06 Bubble Single Stem
03: ESB At-At Commander Kenner 45 back 03 Bubble single stem
04: ROTJ Luke Farmboy Palitoy 45 Back 03 Single Stem Bubble (UKGBP Figure/ESB US Bubble/Palitoy Card) ALARM BELLS

There are another 9 single stem bubbles in the ESB line that don't have numbers. I think all the SW ones have single stem.

 

[spoons]

Grant the single stemmed numbered bubbles are on Kenner and Palitoy ESB cards from 45 through to 48 backs. 41 backs and earlier (inc. SW) are unumbered

Square numbered bubbles are found on ROTJ Kenner and Palitoy - the numbers should match the ESB cards

Your Luke is a concern, I'm hoping legit random 03 bubbles show up but I'm not holding my breath

 

[Grant_C]

Grant the single stemmed numbered bubbles are on Kenner and Palitoy ESB cards from 45 through to 48 backs so post up your Kenners too.

Square numbered bubbles are found on ROTJ Kenner and Palitoy - the numbers should match the ESB cards

Your Luke is a concern, I'm hoping legit random 03 bubbles show up but I'm not holding my breath

Mate- that's all the numbered bubble I have.

The Luke is ******, whether its real or not.

Its either a unique one of a kind exciting discovery
or
A TT that as trickled its way through for years.

Its upsetting, not because of what it is, or the value. Its because I worked my ass off it a **** job to pay for that.

 

[spoons]

Sorry - I misread you first time :wink:

Changed my post but you beat me to it

It really is a pisser all this, yours could be a one off and PBP on 45 back is fine, but Toni has scarred this hobby beyond repair.

I'd almost be happy to eat the loss and let him off if he would come clean with numbers and affected figures

It would save all this endless debate :wink:

 

[Grant_C]

I'd almost be happy to eat the loss and let him off if he would come clean with numbers and affected figures

It would save all this endless debate :wink:

Andy- I agree mate. There is a professional body that I think could get to the bottom of this in days. Behind the scenes theres a flurry of activity that will hopefully give this an adrenaline injection.

 

[spoons]

Good to hear Grant

 

[mr_palitoy]

This is a genuine palitoy esb 45b bossk single stem from a vectis auction in 2004.
This bubble is different from Tonis single stem bubble which is unnumbered, taller and narrower.
The number on this bubble is 11.

This is a Toni:-

Have updated my guide with pictures of both:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/esb45bcardback.htm

cheers Jason




cheers Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

And palitoy esb 45b chewbacca is 02. Toni's bubble is taller and has no number.

This is a Toni:-

Have updated by guide with examples of both:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/esb45bcardback.htm

cheers Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

Found a bunch of vectis auctions for palitoy 45a cards with numbered bubbles.

Write up is on my guide:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/esb45acardback.htm

cheers Jason

 

[lee gray]

In all the years I have been collecting I can honestly say I have never noticed any numbers on bubbles or knew nothing about them until this incident.

 

[RKW1138]

Thanks for the extra numbers guys.

Vernon, could you please double check your Chief Chirpa and Ree-Yees bubbles again?

Your Chief Chirpa number of 4 is the same as Han Solo and I would have thought that the ewok bubble would be smaller?
Also your Ree-Yees differs two other examples which have 16A.

Still looking for examples for bubble types 5, 7, 10 & 14.

 

[M4K3R1]

US Kenner Darth Vader ESB-41D
Factory code S with an 08 bubble.
No pattern on the seal, completelly smooth.

 

[aussiejames]

Did someone say Chirpa? :wink:
HN as far as I know has the perforated punch & 1/3 circle (HT perf & 1/2 circle)

Kenner 77A (HG) no bubble number

Now for HNs:
Kenner 77a 04A
Kenner 77a (clipper wrap around sticker) 04A
Kenner 65B ? Tsukuda 04A
Palitoy 65A (clipper wrap around) 04A
Palitoy 65A 04A


re 'factory code' ME Macau

Canadian 65A Ree Yees 016A ( lower right hand side of bubble)
Canadian 65A Klaatu 015A ( lower right hand side of bubble(
Palitoy 65A Klaatu- waffle pattern no number ( & one with 015A )