Vectis 30bk yellow tint to bubble?!

[talldroid77]

Hi folks!

Hope I'm posting in the right place - I'm not really asaking for a valuation so am posting here.

I bought the 30a Rebewl Soldier from Vectis yesterday but having got it home and had a good look at it in daylight there seems to be the beginnings of a yelllow tint to the bubble which was not in their description. Real shame as its a beauty figure. The afa site says any signs of yellowing gets a y grade as it can get worse over time - not ideal obviously.

I am not very experienced when it comes to MOC's so i thought I would see if I can get some opinions from some of you guys if possible without spending money at graders. The tint is only very slight and not immediately obvious in artificial lighting at least but to my eyes its there. I'm including some pics (8 of them as its hard to photograph clearly) next to a couple of crystal clear bubbles i have. Going by the afa site I would say it would get a y but am not 100% sure. Any opinions?

 

[jedisearcher]

Yes, pretty sure that'll get a Y grade. The figure is probably an 80 - the paint flaw on the left thigh be marked down.

If you're really bothered talk to Vectis and say it wasn't as described. I know they've refunded items in the past and then re-auctioned them.

 

[laurencedyer]

I'm quite sure that will receive a Y grading buddy, however nice piece regardless.

 

[talldroid77]

Cheers guys - you likely know a lot more than me on y grades so its great to get other opinions to clarify.

It is a lovely figure and a big part of me wants to keep it but then again if I'd known I would of bought something else and it is slightly annoying having my time and diesel wasted if it ends up being returned. :x

Room for improvement in descriptions I feel especially in more expensive stuff - if I can see it as an amateur its surprising they missed the yellowed bubble as professionals.

Thanks again

David

 

[talldroid77]

Well in light of the above comments I just gave vectis a ring - they have offered a refund or potentially a partial refund but are unsure of what that would be as its not their property. Anyone an idea of the percentage value reduction for a yellowed bubble? Sorry to be so full of questions perhaps in a few years I will be able to give advice more than ask for it lol.

Thanks

 

[_Lee_]

I myself see the tiniest bit, but i dont think its enough to warrant a YB. The brightness of the card, and background picture may push it out a bit more but i cant see any major yellowing.

BTW Gorgeous figures.

 

[talldroid77]

I myself see the tiniest bit, but i dont think its enough to warrant a YB. The brightness of the card, and background picture may push it out a bit more but i cant see any major yellowing.

BTW Gorgeous figures.

Thanks Lee!

Yes it is only a slight tint...hard to see in electric light. afa saying any signs of yellowing gets a y due to potential worsening is what has worried me a little - not sure how ukg work it. I told vectis I'd call back tomoz after thinking about it a little. Any further opinions before then will be much appreciated

 

[steve obi wan]

Hi ,

Not sure the Y grade will affect the value overall by too much , the biggest factors on values is the grade and sub grades , these will affect its value a lot more

Do you plan to grade and resell on ?

If you want to keep it , it's still a nice moc and worth keeping in any collection

Thanks

 

[Lee Gregory]

If you sent this for grading I'm pretty certain it would grade a y.

As for value,hard to say nobody wants a tinged bubble if they had the choice between the two. I'd personally say value could be reduced by 25-33%

Just my opinion though

 

[Mr-shifter]

This whole y thing makes me laugh. It's only a snapshot of when the afa see it. You will find dozens of graded Mocs out there that have no y and yellow bubbles. It could happen at any time to any crystal clear bubble. They are 35 year old plastics and they will degrade over time.

I can't be arsed to look up what you paid for it but I imagine it was a pretty penny. If you aren't happy with it and the item wasn't as described I would go for a refund. Will it constantly niggle you and look out of place in your collection. Do you feel obliged to hang on to it because you brought it or would owning it just big the hell out of you. That's probably the question you need to ask. If you want to hang on to it and a partial refund would sit best go with that, but whatever you do, make sure you are completely happy with the outcome.

 

[talldroid77]

Well my intention when buying it was to keep it with it being a debut card. My issues are that the y was not described, the investment side of things and I have always steered clear (no pun intended lol) of y bubbles as they do niggle a bit.

It is a v nice item though and the defect not immediately obvious also rare and difficult to pick up another decent one. Returning it wouldn't be an exactly joyous event but would free up cash for another none y buy perhaps at future Vectis auctions. Also a potential 25% or more hit on the value as Lee indicates is a little hard to swallow lol.

I think I'm going to think about it while tomorrow and take in any more comments folk may make. A partial refund may be the way to go but that's up to the presently previous owner.

Yep thanks again for your thoughts guys - id be a little lost now if it were not for SWFUK membership and the input of some of its experienced members. Much apreciated

 

[indianawars]

This whole y thing makes me laugh. It's only a snapshot of when the afa see it. You will find dozens of graded Mocs out there that have no y and yellow bubbles. It could happen at any time to any crystal clear bubble. They are 35 year old plastics and they will degrade over time.

I can't be arsed to look up what you paid for it but I imagine it was a pretty penny. If you aren't happy with it and the item wasn't as described I would go for a refund. Will it constantly niggle you and look out of place in your collection. Do you feel obliged to hang on to it because you brought it or would owning it just big the hell out of you. That's probably the question you need to ask. If you want to hang on to it and a partial refund would sit best go with that, but whatever you do, make sure you are completely happy with the outcome.

To be honest, there really isn't anything more to add as this sums it all up in one post. You have to do what makes you happy, and if the yellow tint is getting to you, then there's you answer.

 

[talldroid77]

This whole y thing makes me laugh. It's only a snapshot of when the afa see it. You will find dozens of graded Mocs out there that have no y and yellow bubbles. It could happen at any time to any crystal clear bubble. They are 35 year old plastics and they will degrade over time.

I can't be arsed to look up what you paid for it but I imagine it was a pretty penny. If you aren't happy with it and the item wasn't as described I would go for a refund. Will it constantly niggle you and look out of place in your collection. Do you feel obliged to hang on to it because you brought it or would owning it just big the hell out of you. That's probably the question you need to ask. If you want to hang on to it and a partial refund would sit best go with that, but whatever you do, make sure you are completely happy with the outcome.

To be honest, there really isn't anything more to add as this sums it all up in one post. You have to do what makes you happy, and if the yellow tint is getting to you, then there's you answer.

Ye it was a good post. I don't feel any obligation to keep it just cos i bought it as a refund has kindly been offered. Its not going to bug (I assume the big was a typo) the hell out of me as its a nice piece it just wasn't described properly. Ye y is a snapshot in time I agree and evidence that the plastic has aged faster than others produced at the same time - I'm not huge on grading and don't generally buy graded items - but there is a slight financial consideration on an item like this and I'm from Yorkshire lol. Certainly going with what makes you happy is a good piece of advice. Thanks

 

[lejackal]

Okay, now I've got the correct thread;

Sorry to piggyback someone else's thread but with the y thing does it effect the grade or do they still grade an 80 bubble as an 80 bubble with a y?

Thanks

Carl

Should add, lovely figures btw whatever you decide to do!

 

[_Lee_]

Id keep it, its a sweet piece and theres just as much chance of the bubble falling off as the bubble going totally yellow.

Seriously, that is a sweet card.

 

[jedisearcher]

You probably also need to consider if/when another one might come up for sale, and how much more/less that one might cost.

A hole in your collection from not having it might bug you just as much as a tiny bit yellow bubble.

Have you considered keeping it for now and then if another came along buy that one and sell the yellow one?

 

[palitoyjunky]

It a lovely MOC and you shouldn't worry about the bubble tinge :!: It may well stay at that level of tinge for years to come as some of the MOCs I have had have.

It will 100% get the Y grade if you send off mate no question :!: I have seen clearer bubbles get the Y grade :!: However the Y grade wont bring down the numerical grade.

It displays great and if I were missing a Rebel Soldier I would b happy to own yours 8)

 

[theguiltyone]

You will be hard pushed to find that figure on a 30 back with a crystal clear bubble, there are some out there but yellow tint is common unfortunately.

Good luck getting a partial refund from Vectis. Refund yes, partial no (in my experience).

 

[stormcab]

That went for a pretty decent price at Vectis. You did well there even with the tint. I think Vectis only mention yellow if it's pretty clear. I won the Palitoy 4-LOM, which in the photo had a few creases/veins, but not mentioned in the description. Yes, in an ideal world, I would prefer them to be as descriptive as positive, especially if like me you are bidding online.

If you risk buying a MOC with a clear bubble, pay a premium for that, grade it, then in a few years when you maybe decide to sell it and it's started yellowing, you'll now have an incorrectly graded item, and will be worth much less. Actually a good path to go is to go for figures that are just on the turn.

 

[talldroid77]

Yes cheers guys i feel loads clearer on this now - this thread has been very useful.

It is a very nice item that would be nice to keep of course. I guess my only issues being that I thought I was bidding on a clear bubble and could the money be better spent on upcoming auctions? - there are plenty of other gaps to fill in my collection even if a soldier does not come up for a while. Something to think about and ultimately a decision I need to make for myself but the input and guidance on this thread has been extremely useful if not vital.

I don't know if any partial refund will be offered on the basis of not as described- its not an item that was owned by vectis - down to the (previous) owner I'm told. They may well think they can get the same or better price again or maybe not. I'll likely be able to make a better decision on how to proceed after a good nights sleep lol.

Thanks again folks you have been very helpful and I'm grateful for that!