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Yoda for me - was one of my fave figs as a wee nipper.
ULTIMATE FORUM FIGURE - Semi Final 2 - Yoda v Hoth Stormie
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Dark Sith Lord
Grand Master
YODA! By a mile!
Very close!
Very close!
Stargeezer
Sith Lord
jambobbyb said:
Appearently they are otherwise they wouldn't be in the Semi-finals... :?
Section 8
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Snowtrooper.
fuzzybuzzytoys
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Hoth Stormie
Stargeezer said:
Im as surprised as you are Star Geezer. Hoth stormie is a classic star wars figure as is Yoda but one of the most iconic? the ultimate SW fig? Not for me. cant wait for the final i will be rooting for stormies brother!
jambobbyb said:
We're not picking "the most iconic" figure. Iconic was never mentioned at any point. It's just supposed to be favourite figure. Yoda is and always has been one of the most popular figures. It'sa near perfection interns of the original figures. It's well made, movie accurate, has great accessories, proper material coat not ****ing vinyl… etc. I's just one of those figures Kenner got right. Doesn't mean you have to like it but it is a favourite among collectors (as it was among kids of the 80s). I think Vader is a terrible figure but i can see why it made it to the QFs. Not my cup of tea but it's different for each person. I've always liked the more interesting figures, did as a kid, still do. And the more movie accurate the better for me: ERG, Squid Head, Gam Guard etc. For me Vader, Luke Farmboy and Greedo are complete failures as figures but are they more "iconic"? yeah, without doubt. I totally get why people are into them. They're so nostalgic it's unreal. If we were picking "most iconic" figure no doubt they would have finished higher. But we're not.
Hi Pete Its interesting you should say that. I took the definition of ultimate to mean that as its definition, this is closer to ultimate and iconic than ultimate and favourite. In my opinion
"being the best or most extreme example of its kind."
Its all personal taste and these two figs arent mine is all i am saying. The final will be interesting and i wil be rooting for old neckless.
"being the best or most extreme example of its kind."
Its all personal taste and these two figs arent mine is all i am saying. The final will be interesting and i wil be rooting for old neckless.
jambobbyb said:
Absolutely, all comes down to personal taste and often past experience and memory. Tho "iconic" and "ultimate" are 2 completely different and largely unrelated things. Ultimate just means "top" or "best" literally. So favourite. Iconic would be something different altogether. Personal taste wouldn't come in to picking an iconic figure as much.
PGowdy said:
Sorry Pete I disagree with you completely, To become an Icon you have to be the very best at what you do. Best = Ultimate = indivisible = 0 Ultimate and Icon go hand in hand.
here are some Icons of the 20th century with all of these people you dont have to like them or what they did to see they are the "best/Ultimate" at what they did.
1. The Beatles
2. Louis Armstrong
3. Lucille Ball
4. Humphrey Bogart
5. Marlon Brando
6. Charlie Chaplin
7. James Dean
8. Marilyn Monroe
9. Mickey Mouse
10. Elvis Presley
jambobbyb said:
Arguably, yes. But that wouldn't make an icon and the people's favourite the same thing would it.
Also you can be an icon without being the best. David Beckham is pretty much the most iconic english footballer of our generation. The best? Not even close. And then surely it would be different for each country? Would Maradona be Germany's most iconic footballer?? No?, but why not if he's "the best". So the 2 things are still different even tho often the same. The "best" can be an icon but also the "favourite" can be an icon even tho both things are different. is; favourite is not always best and vice versa.
To say the Beatles are Iconic and The Beatles are the best therefore Iconic means best is what's known as a false syllogism. As in- all birds lay eggs. Alligators lay eggs. Therefore alligators are birds.
Arguably, yes. But that wouldn't make an icon and the people's favourite the same thing would it.
Also you can be an icon without being the best. David Beckham is pretty much the most iconic english footballer of our generation. The best? Not even close.
YIP ! the "STONE ROSES" set precident in 2012 by selling 260 thousand tickets in just under 2 minutes and 60 thousand tickets in under 25 seconds earlier and the lead singer mr brown cant sign worth a toss live and everyone knows it but he is was and shall remain an huuuuge icon to an entire generation and infact newer generations now not too mention the music business in general ,so icon isnt always about being the best , icon is about how strong your generations love for you is .which can stem from many reasons but its deffinately not always about ability
Also you can be an icon without being the best. David Beckham is pretty much the most iconic english footballer of our generation. The best? Not even close.
YIP ! the "STONE ROSES" set precident in 2012 by selling 260 thousand tickets in just under 2 minutes and 60 thousand tickets in under 25 seconds earlier and the lead singer mr brown cant sign worth a toss live and everyone knows it but he is was and shall remain an huuuuge icon to an entire generation and infact newer generations now not too mention the music business in general ,so icon isnt always about being the best , icon is about how strong your generations love for you is .which can stem from many reasons but its deffinately not always about ability
"Total crap" Stone roses have always been one of the great talents of the very late 80s/90s and we're the best at what they did!
The Stone roses : with many critics regarding it as one of the greatest British albums ever recorded.
The Stone roses : with many critics regarding it as one of the greatest British albums ever recorded.
jambobbyb said:
huh i think you missed my point . maybe the way i wrote it ? total crap you say :lol: so your saying mr brown is a top live singer :? :shock: and on top of his game and one of the best at it
. :lol: pmsl even the diehard faithful fans like myself would agree otherwise. on his day live the odd tune maybe and in the studio for recording purpose without doubt yes! but live no, ians very poor always has been even admits it himself .doesnt ound bad to me as such but to most who see and hear him live will say he is gash and thats what i said :wink: this makes him an icon with a lesser ablity .the rest of the band are shithot everytime!p.s im the bloke thats seen ian and the others solo over 30-40 times over the years and went all round the world 2012-2013 to see the roses inc the first full reform gig in barcelona myself so you need not preach to me about their talent mate ,you more than likley wont come across another fan as diehard as me , especially not on starwars boards
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jay4 said:jambobbyb said:
huh pmsl total crap you say :lol: so your saying mr brown is a top live singer :? :shock: and on top of his game and one of the best at it
p.s im the bloke thats seen ian and the others solo over 30-40 times over the years and went all round the world 2012-2013 to see the roses inc the first full reform gig in barcelona myself so you need not preach to me about their talent mate ,you more than likley wont come across another fan as diehard as me , especially not on starwars boards
I'm a massive Stone Roses fan and saw them last summer, the gig was amazing, I've also seen Ian Brown solo a couple of times. I love his music and his swagger but I have to agree that he is a pretty terrible singer live, his gigs are good because you love the band and the music but at the end if the day he isn't the greatest singer, just a great performer.
Boba Skinner said:jay4 said:jambobbyb said:
huh pmsl total crap you say :lol: so your saying mr brown is a top live singer :? :shock: and on top of his game and one of the best at it
p.s im the bloke thats seen ian and the others solo over 30-40 times over the years and went all round the world 2012-2013 to see the roses inc the first full reform gig in barcelona myself so you need not preach to me about their talent mate ,you more than likley wont come across another fan as diehard as me , especially not on starwars boards
I'm a massive Stone Roses fan and saw them last summer, the gig was amazing, I've also seen Ian Brown solo a couple of times. I love his music and his swagger but I have to agree that he is a pretty terrible singer live, his gigs are good because you love the band and the music but at the end if the day he isn't the greatest singer, just a great performer.
thats the point i was trying to make . to be an icon you dont have to be super good at what you do as jammybobby tried to say . ians an example of this
Yes total crap, and you just proved it Jay, Ian brown has legion of fans because of that first stone roses album, a lot of his solo stuff is very good I have always liked him and for a solo artist who as you say can't sing live he hasn't done bad for himself, but without the stone roses you wouldn't have heard of Ian Brown, ian brown is iconic for being in the stone roses and releasing one of the best British albums of all time.
