JuniorChubb
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Grant_C said:
Be strong Liono, must resist the temptation to publicly insult U grading fanatic, by the Sword of Omens stay strong and remember the words of Jaga the Wise...
U grade piss takes
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Be strong Liono, must resist the temptation to publicly insult U grading fanatic, by the Sword of Omens stay strong and remember the words of Jaga the Wise...
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Don't look on this thread often and when I do I remember why. I hope to buy a beater MOC VC Jawa one day, the light at the end of the tunnel is getting smaller all the time. 
Presumably a perfectly good Kenner blue snag baggie got sliced here...
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/171591886209?nav=SEARCH
Then I looked at his other sales - U grades everywhere....
Surely he's got too many to have bought them U graded.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/171591886209?nav=SEARCH
Then I looked at his other sales - U grades everywhere....
Surely he's got too many to have bought them U graded.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Star-Wars-1985-RARE-YAK-FACE-AFA-UKG-U90-WITH-TRI-LOGO-CARD-BACK-and-BUB-/321638441439?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
poncho
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There was nothing wrong with that card or bubble! ******* u grading *****!Grant_C said:
Steve said he doesn't UGRADE anything that would score higher than UKG70 and 'RARE'.
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Shocking, it wouldn't have graded 70 but it's still rare. Besides it's not the point. What can you do though.
I don't know where to begin;
UKG, why??!!! :evil: :evil: What the hell have you done that for?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that MOC until it was butchered. From a collectors point of view, i don't get it.
Whats just as crazy is the BIN price (which is always higher than it should be) seems like less than the price of a MOC Yak would be. From a business point of view i don't get it.
Finally, it looks **** like that. From a displayers point of view, i just don't get it.
UKG, why??!!! :evil: :evil: What the hell have you done that for?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that MOC until it was butchered. From a collectors point of view, i don't get it.
Whats just as crazy is the BIN price (which is always higher than it should be) seems like less than the price of a MOC Yak would be. From a business point of view i don't get it.
Finally, it looks **** like that. From a displayers point of view, i just don't get it.
UKG you suck. All my respect and support for you as a company to compete with AFA has gone.
This is what it says on your site:
U grading vintage carded/boxed items, although we will U grade items, we won't U grade a vintage toy/collectable if the item is above a certain condition.
What condition does it have to be in to save it from being U graded. That Yak looked in great condition. Why U grade it??
You are just as bad as AFA and to me looks like you are just in for the money.
Shameful.
This is what it says on your site:
U grading vintage carded/boxed items, although we will U grade items, we won't U grade a vintage toy/collectable if the item is above a certain condition.
What condition does it have to be in to save it from being U graded. That Yak looked in great condition. Why U grade it??
You are just as bad as AFA and to me looks like you are just in for the money.
Shameful.
JuniorChubb
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weasel said:
As with most things in life, profit trumps reputation. Even in a business where reputation is key. :roll:
maybe a lot of collectors have stopped having stuff graded and its their only way of income? or if the bubble was so badly cracked it was gonna fall out?
I would ask steve, but like weas said, if thats what the customer asks for its gonna happen
I would ask steve, but like weas said, if thats what the customer asks for its gonna happen
Just been told about this thread regarding the Yak Face, some harsh comments referring to us as *****???? when you have not seen it in the flesh??.
The card was painted in black modelling paint like the Tamiya model paints you can get.
The entire back and most of the front of the card was painted, so the entire card was ruined with black paint hence the reason we agreed to U grade.
Steve
The card was painted in black modelling paint like the Tamiya model paints you can get.
The entire back and most of the front of the card was painted, so the entire card was ruined with black paint hence the reason we agreed to U grade.
Steve
poncho
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It was me who used the word ****. My comment was aimed at the person who sent it in to be graded it wasnt aimed at the graders.ukgraders said:
I apologise for any offence caused i understand now why you graded it with the paint job
I see loose figures and cardbacks cased up and it frustrates me :evil:
Still a shame another yak has been opened what ever condition.
JuniorChubb
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We do love to jump all over something based on one photo
Cheers for the explanation Steve, good luck mate you are in a no win situation :wink:
Cheers for the explanation Steve, good luck mate you are in a no win situation :wink:
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Yeah fair play for coming on here and giving your side of the story UKG, you provide a great service and I wish you all the best. I think it's great you can make a living out of something you are clearly passionate about.
However I still don't agree with this Yak being given a U grade, preservation should be priority in my opinion. U grade is a completely made up term which means nothing to me. But I am only one collector and don't expect everyone to share my views and neither should anyone else.
However I still don't agree with this Yak being given a U grade, preservation should be priority in my opinion. U grade is a completely made up term which means nothing to me. But I am only one collector and don't expect everyone to share my views and neither should anyone else.
Steve, fair play for coming on here and explaining why it was U graded. TO me, even though it was painted, it still shouldn't have been Ugraded but that is down to the person sending it in and requesting the service.
U grading damages the hobby and bit by bit it is putting me off carrying on collecting as the stuff I want and still need to find is becoming harder and harder to come by and more expensive, especially as I collect MOC's so for me, every U graded MOC is one less out there and a few ££ more on the one's left.
U grading damages the hobby and bit by bit it is putting me off carrying on collecting as the stuff I want and still need to find is becoming harder and harder to come by and more expensive, especially as I collect MOC's so for me, every U graded MOC is one less out there and a few ££ more on the one's left.
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I don't really care what condition it was in, ugrade is a ugrade.
You, as a company, could make a huge stand and state that you just won't do ugrading, which would put you head and shoulders above AFA but sadly all you companies want to do is make a quick buck.
Explanation or not you still ugraded a vintage item, something that has been kept in it's box for 30 years + but for some reason you think you are the authority to rip it off the card.
Disappointing and I for one would certainly not use your service whilst you offer such a service.
You, as a company, could make a huge stand and state that you just won't do ugrading, which would put you head and shoulders above AFA but sadly all you companies want to do is make a quick buck.
Explanation or not you still ugraded a vintage item, something that has been kept in it's box for 30 years + but for some reason you think you are the authority to rip it off the card.
Disappointing and I for one would certainly not use your service whilst you offer such a service.
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Shocking on that C-3PO. 
I paid £100 for my 12 back C-3PO about 8 years ago.
I paid £100 for my 12 back C-3PO about 8 years ago.
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What's quite sickening is this trend I see on places like eBay, where sellers ask for more money for a loose U grade than the MOC would cost. Some collectors 'like myself' don't have the deepest of pockets and really don'y mind buying a MOC with a few creases or a couple of knocks.
Just wondered if anybody knows who this is.
I have contacted him because we have not had any R2's in recently for U grading unless his wording is just really poor and he means he cut it out before sending it in for grading?.
A couple of people have contacted him about it including myself but we have not had a response on the matter I wanted to know when it was graded ect but I have had no response.
There is no picture of a graded figure just a card back claiming we have opened it, or like I say just bad wording by him as it could also read that he sent just the figure in for grading to us, it just seems a bit misleading.
If you look closely the bubble is cracked on the bottom corner and then split/cut along the top side part of the bubble which is not how we would open it anyway unless the bubble was badly cracked at the bottom. I just want to get to the bottom of it as I can not get any response from the seller.
I am not sure why he would say we opened it and what he would gain apart from making us look bad or if it is just a genuine mistake.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Vintage-LAST-17-R2D2-POP-UP-LIGHTSABER-CARD-WITH-SEALED-COIN-/111606870799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fc49b30f
Anyway as we have now banned U grading I hope we wont be cropping up on here any more.
Here's to the future!.
Steve
I have contacted him because we have not had any R2's in recently for U grading unless his wording is just really poor and he means he cut it out before sending it in for grading?.
A couple of people have contacted him about it including myself but we have not had a response on the matter I wanted to know when it was graded ect but I have had no response.
There is no picture of a graded figure just a card back claiming we have opened it, or like I say just bad wording by him as it could also read that he sent just the figure in for grading to us, it just seems a bit misleading.
If you look closely the bubble is cracked on the bottom corner and then split/cut along the top side part of the bubble which is not how we would open it anyway unless the bubble was badly cracked at the bottom. I just want to get to the bottom of it as I can not get any response from the seller.
I am not sure why he would say we opened it and what he would gain apart from making us look bad or if it is just a genuine mistake.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Vintage-LAST-17-R2D2-POP-UP-LIGHTSABER-CARD-WITH-SEALED-COIN-/111606870799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fc49b30f
Anyway as we have now banned U grading I hope we wont be cropping up on here any more.
Here's to the future!.
Steve
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It seemed to be a case of guilty until proven innocent. Good job Steve. Things like this can harm peoples reputation.
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I know what you mean Steve, at least you got to the bottom of it and perhaps people will see this and think twice before writing stuff like that.
unfortunately people will still open moc to try and get better grades, and the value of a 90 will rise as U grades fade, but its a massive step in the right direction, MOC prices rise and prevent any profit in opening them for loose grading.
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