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tiefighterboy

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Mr-shifter said:
That seems to be the Facebook way. Don't like it delete it.

What's the word for that.

Oh yeah

Censorship.

We would have lost the Kennerbabe scandal If this was facebook as people always have their heads jammed up the toy hunters ass. Come on guys..lets just delete these 40 odd pages and let me buy you a pint. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Unfortunately Facebook isn't the place for educating, because for every interesting noteworthy post made, there are a hundred "what's in the box" posts. Anything of value just gets buried. People say "use the search" but there's two problems with that - firstly if you're new, you don't know what to search for. Browsing is much more effective, that's why we have the reference library section here. Somebody who knows nothing about collecting could spend ten minutes in there without knowing anything before hand and become an expert in minutes.

Secondly even if you do know what to search for, Facebook has no search settings, just a single search bar. Just try putting "toy toni" or "recard" into the search field in any group, it returns a load of useless crap.
 

naughtyjedi

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I'm still chuckling at the forums are dead thing. Someone better go tell Apple as I'm currently on there getting advice about something.. oh and for a moodle question Im on the moodle forum.. oh and a joomla template question Im using ... etc etc.

02 CS point you to their forums....

I also use a football forum... yup.. forums are dead.
 

peekaygee73

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edd_jedi said:
Unfortunately Facebook isn't the place for educating, because for every interesting noteworthy post made, there are a hundred "what's in the box" posts. Anything of value just gets buried. People say "use the search" but there's two problems with that - firstly if you're new, you don't know what to search for. Browsing is much more effective, that's why we have the reference library section here. Somebody who knows nothing about collecting could spend ten minutes in there without knowing anything before hand and become an expert in minutes.

Secondly even if you do know what to search for, Facebook has no search settings, just a single search bar. Just try putting "toy toni" or "recard" into the search field in any group, it returns a load of useless crap.
My background's software development with quite a bit of experience in user interface development, and I agree with everything you're saying - it seems to me that collaborative/groupware systems in particular have taken a step backwards over the past 10 years, and much of that seems to be driven by the interfaces used for social media. Maybe I'm just using the wrong systems.

With regard to Echo it really frustrates me that the admin don't make enough effort to share knowledge or encourage the share of knowledge. Even with the limitations of facebook I'm sure more could be done.
 

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Absolutely, but what are your motivations.

Are they to be part of a huge, diverse community, sharing knowledge and interest across multiple platforms.

Or is it to simply be a cult that has got "my dad is bigger than yours" as it's entire measure of success?
 

RetroDan16

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naughtyjedi said:
I'm still chuckling at the forums are dead thing. Someone better go tell Apple as I'm currently on there getting advice about something.. oh and for a moodle question Im on the moodle forum.. oh and a joomla template question Im using ... etc etc.

02 CS point you to their forums....

I also use a football forum... yup.. forums are dead.

Forums aren't dead, not at all; I'd imagine they have a very good 10 years left in them before they follow the old bulletin boards and email user groups in being pretty quiet.
What I did say, and there's no denying this, their usage has dropped over the last 3 or 4 years significantly.
This was no slight on this forum or any other, just acknowledgment that how we socialise online is evolving.
Facebook will go the same way eventually.
 

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RetroDan16 said:
What I did say, and there's no denying this, their usage has dropped over the last 3 or 4 years significantly.

NO IT HASN'T! :lol: are you on the wind up or just determined to ignore all the facts presented to you? Saying it over again isn't going to make it true. I've already shown you stats showing the forum is getting busier year on year since 2013. I can show you a graph from even further back if you like.

I agree that Rebel Scum is quieter than it used to be, but again as I've already said several pages ago that's because the site owner has no interest in it. I'm sure you know how much work goes in to keeping interest up in your brand or whatever, that doesn't only apply to forums. There are plenty of dead Facebook groups too.
 

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edd_jedi said:
RetroDan16 said:
What I did say, and there's no denying this, their usage has dropped over the last 3 or 4 years significantly.

NO IT HASN'T! :lol: are you on the wind up or just determined to ignore all the facts presented to you? Saying it over again isn't going to make it true. I've already shown you stats showing the forum is getting busier year on year since 2013. I can show you a graph from even further back if you like.

I agree that Rebel Scum is quieter than it used to be, but again as I've already said several pages ago that's because the site owner has no interest in it. I'm sure you know how much work goes in to keeping interest up in your brand or whatever, that doesn't only apply to forums. There are plenty of dead Facebook groups too.

STOP PRESENTING EVIDENCE, iITS RUINING THE ARGUMENT.

I will use the word again:

Cult,

Where otherwise rational people are tricked into believing a convenient lie.

I suspect Dan is probably a fourth level Thetan as well.
 

naughtyjedi

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RetroDan16 said:
What I did say, and there's no denying this, their usage has dropped over the last 3 or 4 years significantly.
This was no slight on this forum or any other, just acknowledgment that how we socialise online is evolving.
Facebook will go the same way eventually.

LOLz x LOLy

Not sure if you are deliberately ignoring what I am saying, pretty much all tech giants are using forums to address CS issues. So thats all Android and Apple phones, and all the main phone package suppliers. I'd say forum usage has grown exponentially in the last 5 years. I don't know how that will be replaced. They'll likely be more integration across current and new platforms.. be interesting to hear what you think will replace it in 10 years.

Facebook is a great tool, it could be a lot better. But its trying to be everything, but not quite pulling it off brilliantly (messenger its latest frustrating example). A jack of all trades of the social media world. Its still the go to place, just... but it wants to be a selling platform, etc etc..
 

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On the subject of forums being dead, I was just reading the Mac Rumors forum and happened to notice this thread, which has had 180 replies (8 pages) in the last five hours. And then I checked out the same article on their Facebook page, which has more "likes" but a mere 37 comments. Yeah, forums are dead...

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mumbo

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RetroDan16 said:
naughtyjedi said:
I'm still chuckling at the forums are dead thing. Someone better go tell Apple as I'm currently on there getting advice about something.. oh and for a moodle question Im on the moodle forum.. oh and a joomla template question Im using ... etc etc.

02 CS point you to their forums....

I also use a football forum... yup.. forums are dead.


What I did say, and there's no denying this, their usage has dropped over the last 3 or 4 years significantly.
This was no slight on this forum or any other, just acknowledgment that how we socialise online is evolving.
Facebook will go the same way eventually.


I think you must have read this from an article on one of those regular fake FB stories :wink:
 

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I've moved this to off topic as it's becoming less and less about Star Wars figures with every post. I do think there is value to the conversation so won't delete it, but it's a stain on the vintage chat section which is full of otherwise positive posts.
 

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Anyone want to start a new U.K. based forum called the Reverberation Base U.K. Trading Vintage Star Wars 1977-78 with me?

There's the solution to all of these problems. Compromise! And a new group! Because the hobby needs more groups!
 

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:lol: It may be the solution to this argument but I'm pretty sure the world doesn't need any more Star Wars groups :lol:
 

xbomber

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Ross_Barr said:
Anyone want to start a new U.K. based forum called the Reverberation Base U.K. Trading Vintage Star Wars 1977-78 with me?

There's the solution to all of these problems. Compromise! And a new group! Because the hobby needs more groups!

Can we ban anyone who posts anything? And then seek out their family members, add them and then ban them also?
 

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