Time for me to vent-vehicle spares.

[PGowdy]

Thats what I though and as you can see...this was not the case. I will say this....as an example.....I strongly need the skull piece for my ewok battle wagon....would I prefer to buy a complete one to get it....No....should I have bought a complete on in the first place...Yes....would I feel shame by buying one from a part out..thus being cheaper for me in the long run.......No.

The issue was not specifically against stripping complete ships but incomplete too. The stripping of near complete ships was also specifically referred to.

 

[tiefighterboy]

Thats what I though and as you can see...this was not the case. I will say this....as an example.....I strongly need the skull piece for my ewok battle wagon....would I prefer to buy a complete one to get it....No....should I have bought a complete on in the first place...Yes....would I feel shame by buying one from a part out..thus being cheaper for me in the long run.......No.

The issue was not specifically against stripping complete ships but incomplete too. The stripping of near complete ships was also specifically referred to.

Either way...it was more directed at practices on this forum and our feelings on these practices.

 

[_Lee_]

Give over Lee - don't play the 'poor little innocent boy here' - you give as good as you get

Whatever Iain.

 

[_Lee_]

Thats what I though and as you can see...this was not the case. I will say this....as an example.....I strongly need the skull piece for my ewok battle wagon....would I prefer to buy a complete one to get it....No....should I have bought a complete on in the first place...Yes....would I feel shame by buying one from a part out..thus being cheaper for me in the long run.......No.

The issue was not specifically against stripping complete ships but incomplete too. The stripping of near complete ships was also specifically referred to.

Thats my point. Do you think many people would like to own a near complete example?? If they cant push the boat out for a complete one??

And if some people are so naive to think people wont strip a complete one to sell as spares then they are mistaken.

 

[Michael Sith]

We all have opinions, we all have a view,
You may not agree with me, I may not agree with you.
Through discussion a point may be raised to debate,
But no need for anger or to become irate.
We discuss, we listen, maybe learn, no need for a fuss,
All things are open for debate to discuss.
We are all different, yet we are all the same,
We are all passionate within this SW collecting game.
Chide me if you wish, for my words in rhyme,
We are all SWFUKers....all is well, all is fine :wink:

 

[Mr-shifter]

I would suggest that 95% of people who would buy a near complete example would do so knowing they could try to pick up the spare parts on ebay or the forum at a later date, just as they do with loose figures missing accessories.

 

[benny100]

The initial post was inflammatory, it didn't need to be brought up, and as has been said I can't see any profit in stripping a complete Falcon down as apposed to selling it whole.
The spare parts threads on this forum have not been excessive or an indicator that people are doing this, if it's happening on other sites or eBay report specifically on those.

Or just don't bother at all.

 

[Cazza]

Had this exact same argument over on the Vw Corrado forum when Corrado's get broken and stripped for parts. Ultimately, the consensus seems to be so long as the car being broken is too uneconomical to get through its mot etc, then it's fine to break it. At the end of the day, by scrapping a shitter, you're saving other better cars. Yes, the overall number is slowly bring reduced, but at the same time the current stock of cars is being improved. Exact same principle here. So long as good, complete/near complete ships aren't being parted out, it's a good thing IMHO.

 

[Richard_H]

Either I'm being totally naïve or stupid but I've never seen a full working vehicle stripped for parts. I've seen beaters being taken apart but not bought for that specific intention. Without stripping items for parts then some of my vehicles would be incomplete. Although in actuality I wouldn't have bought them if I couldn't obtain them somehow.

IMO 1 complete and 5 incomplete vehicles is better than 6 incomplete vehicles.

Lee - are you saying that there is evidence of collectors purchasing job lots with the intention of stripping the vehicles down to maximise profits? If so, do you have any links?

 

[Section 8]

I recently purchased two incomplete falcons one boxed both missing jedi ball and arm. I already owned my boxed childhood falcon.

I've taken parts from both to make my childhood one more complete which now only need the jedi ball and arm.
I'm left with one dusty falcon shell with a few inner parts. Those inner parts are now on Ebay as that is how I'm going to make the most money from it.
I'm also left with a really nice incomplete falcon with nice ESB box. Missing jedi ball etc and blue gunner chair part.

Do i sell the nicer 2nd falcon as whole and get less money than splitting it just because it's a bit nicer than the other? Despite wanting the maximum amount out of them I do kinda want to keep the nicer falcon together, but will not get the same as I would if i split it.

What perhaps is wrong is that an average complete falcon is worth way less than the sum of it's parts, which maybe what Palitoy/Lee is getting at.

Jedi ball + Arm £20
Blue Struts + £20
Smuggler Cover + £6
Blue Chair £6
White Chair Part £3
Chess Table £3
Underside Door £8
Cardboard Insert £6
Radar Dish + Stand £12
Top Gun £10
Top Gun Glass £5
Blue Cockpit Parts £4
Cockpit Cover £6
Top Cover £5
3 Legs £4
Clean shell with working motor. £12
Nice Box £15
Inserts + Instructions?

An amazing £145 in total.

 

[tiefighterboy]

The practice of parting out complete vehicles has been done on Ebay alot. In the long run, you may be able to get a few extra dollars that way but in the bigger sense...you have to list the stuff individually, It takes more of your time and in the end is not worth it to those with half a brain.

 

[Stuart Skinner]

Lee - are you saying that there is evidence of collectors purchasing job lots with the intention of stripping the vehicles down to maximise profits? If so, do you have any links?

You're thinking of your next boom story

 

[Richard_H]

No, I was thinking you're butt ugly.

 

[SOJ]

Wasn't going to post again on this thread but just wanted to spell out one more thing.

The lots I buy have been left in lofts and garages for literlly decades until I receive them, with all the dirt and **** that comes from that. I spend hours cleaning it all up, pricing it, listing it, packing it and posting it.

But the best bit of it for me is all of that collection was once loved by child who fell out of love with it and I get to love that collection as it was one last time. I get that same excitement everytime I receive a big box of vintage, its like Xmas day couple of weeks.

Its not excitement that I'm going to make money out if, its excitment at seeing items I never owned before, adding parts and bringing them back to their former glory.. Putting that stuff in cirulation is a thrill for me as I feel that helps the hobby and getting to keep to a few bits is pretty sweet as well.

This thread has made me question what I do and through the debate lead me to beleive nothing, selling parts isn't wrong. The only thing I think I have done wrong is always run to ebay.

We all collect in our own way, however for me, I'm a completionist. An incomplete vehicle isn't acceptable long term in my collection. I've always got a list in my head of parts I'm missing, weapnns I'm missing and figures/ vehicles want to upgrade and I enjoy the hunt.

At Farthest From last month one of my lasting memories will a guy rooting through a box of vehicles parts and pulling out part after part that he needed, smiling ear to ear. Neil also found a pair of immobilsers for an Imperial Troop Transport he'd been searching for and was well chuffed. I saw some cool **** that weekend but that really stood out for me.

I respect your opinion Lee but I dont agree with it. Its been a good debate and I think we've both got our points across. I'd like to think though that I've not come across as aggrestive or hateful. If anyone is ever concern with anything I'm selling or how I'm selling more than happy to discuss.

Thats all I have to say on the subject accept to say that my mention of the need for a battery cover for my Vaders Star Destroyer seems to have reaped reward in the form of a trade for my Falcon cannons.

 

[tiefighterboy]

There is nothing wrong with selling parts whatsoever and I think you will find 99% of the members here have no problem with it.

 

[_Lee_]

Wasn't going to post again on this thread but just wanted to spell out one more thing.

The lots I buy have been left in lofts and garages for literlly decades until I receive them, with all the dirt and **** that comes from that. I spend hours cleaning it all up, pricing it, listing it, packing it and posting it.

But the best bit of it for me is all of that collection was once loved by child who fell out of love with it and I get to love that collection as it was one last time. I get that same excitement everytime I receive a big box of vintage, its like Xmas day couple of weeks.

Its not excitement that I'm going to make money out if, its excitment at seeing items I never owned before, adding parts and bringing them back to their former glory.. Putting that stuff in cirulation is a thrill for me as I feel that helps the hobby and getting to keep to a few bits is pretty sweet as well.

This thread has made me question what I do and through the debate lead me to beleive nothing, selling parts isn't wrong. The only thing I think I have done wrong is always run to ebay.

We all collect in our own way, however for me, I'm a completionist. An incomplete vehicle isn't acceptable long term in my collection. I've always got a list in my head of parts I'm missing, weapnns I'm missing and figures/ vehicles want to upgrade and I enjoy the hunt.

At Farthest From last month one of my lasting memories will a guy rooting through a box of vehicles parts and pulling out part after part that he needed, smiling ear to ear. Neil also found a pair of immobilsers for an Imperial Troop Transport he'd been searching for and was well chuffed. I saw some cool **** that weekend but that really stood out for me.

I respect your opinion Lee but I dont agree with it. Its been a good debate and I think we've both got our points across. I'd like to think though that I've not come across as aggrestive or hateful. If anyone is ever concern with anything I'm selling or how I'm selling more than happy to discuss.

Thats all I have to say on the subject accept to say that my mention of the need for a battery cover for my Vaders Star Destroyer seems to have reaped reward in the form of a trade for my Falcon cannons.

Same goes for me bud. I respect your opinion aswell and i wasnt intending on hurting your feelings,nor anyone elses. I am also a completeist, but i tend to only buy stuff thats complete/boxed. The whole thread was not meant to be inflammatory, and i should have stated that i was venting against Ebay and others forums aswell. Even if it is ok here, im just pretty confident that some Ebay sellers are chasing the money.

Peace to anyone ive offended, it wasnt meant that way. Maybe the context in how i say things is sometimes OTT.

Lee

 

[kieatky]

Group Hug

 

[Michael Sith]

great stuff

 

[chazb73]

We all have opinions, we all have a view,
You may not agree with me, I may not agree with you.
Through discussion a point may be raised to debate,
But no need for anger or to become irate.
We discuss, we listen, maybe learn, no need for a fuss,
All things are open for debate to discuss.
We are all different, yet we are all the same,
We are all passionate within this SW collecting game.
Chide me if you wish, for my words in rhyme,
We are all SWFUKers....all is well, all is fine :wink:

 

[plantman]

I think it's wasteful but at the end of the day one complete stripped vehicle could turn several incomplete vehicles into complete ones so it still leaves them in the hobby...if you get my drift.

But I wouldn't ever do it, only if it was screwed and broken.