The Mega Rare Palitoys...

Andyclarke said:
Slightly off track.

80's'_collector Ian, as someone who's been around a long time :wink: I was wondering if you recognise the sticker on the C-3P0 cardback below. This card was mine from being a kid and always wondered what it was. I have seen a few carded examples, but only of C-3PO with the same sticker and we have speculated in the past without anyone really knowing. An auction house has one coming up for sale and they state it is a wholesalers sticker, which I'd never thought about before. Do you think this is possible? How would they end up with the wholesalers? Was C-3PO a particularly bad seller in comparison to the other 12 backs?

I had 4 Palitoy 12 backs with those stickers on, C-3PO, Luke, Vader and R2 and never did come to the bottom of it although a friend of mine seemed to think they may have come from a catalog or Argos. It sounds like the Argos theory is out but the catalog one might stick if the shop you bought it from back in the day was a small family run business.

I'm really surprised that nobody on here knows for sure but with 80's collector mentioning seeing them on other toy lines is does make you think that it was some fairly big company selling these, they've clearly added them to the products they're selling which is an extra cost to them so I can only think that they were dealing in big numbers of items.

Ian
 
Thanks both of you for your replies and extra info. Clearly this was a UK offer that passed me by!... And now I really DO feel like I missed out! :(. Clearly also therefore, the Fett mail-away offer in the UK does indeed predate the Dengar one, so many thanks indeed for increasing my Star Wars knowledge. I appreciate it, and I genuinely mean that :). I can only assume that because the Fett offer (again, to my knowledge!) never made it onto any of the Palitoy cards, and certainly none of the ones I ever owned, I never knew anything about it. I was never into comics as a child and so wouldn't have seen the print ad there, and my local toy shop never offered me the flyer, since I definitely would have sent away for Mr Fett if I'd known about him!

Anyway, the scarcity of Dengar and Fett on their earliest actual or theoretical debut cards becomes clear. I now have to wonder what the issue was with Yoda (unless he also had a mail-away offer that passed me by!)? As jedisearcher observed in his excellent post above, perhaps there were production problems of some kind, as it seems very odd that Palitoy would think Yoda wouldn't be a popular character and hence deliberately chose to under-produce or short-pack him. Yoda was always one of my favourite figures as a kid because he had so many cool accessories (even if I did slightly disapprove of the orange snake, since I never saw one of those in the film and certainly not around his neck :))

Oh, and if it makes you feel any better Ian, some of my friends ruined the 'I am your father' moment for me as well... little bastards! Fortunately, I didn't fully believe them, so I went to see Empire not completely sure about it![/quote]




Well I'm just glad that my memory hasn't completely failed me yet :lol:

Boba coming first was the way I always remember it and I kept my mailer box for years after receiving it although I think it's long gone now :cry: . Growing up with the first release of these figures I was in and out of the toy shops all the time. My local toy shop would keep their figures in big wicker bins that I would rummage through in search of the elusive 12 back Jawa. I can't imagine many mint mocs surviving that retailers displaying methods but I do remember looking in the shop just before the 20 backs came out and seeing just one lonely Luke 12 back in the bottom of the basket! One thing from this whole time though was that I never came across a 30 back Boba Fett so I really don't think many of these were released, probably due to the mail away offer. All my friends had mail away Boba's so I'm thinking a lot of children back then received theirs that way also.

As for the Yoda I remember getting that figure but mine had an orange snake. I always presumed it to be a Palitoy 30 back as that was the time that I received it but as I found out on here Yoda was released with a brown snake on the 30 backs and and the orange snake was only released in the UK much later. Here's my old thread about it - http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=15477

I can only think that the Kenner Yoda's were sent over to the UK due to demand for the figure as it was from the second batch of 30 backs released in the UK and was first on a 32 back in the US. I'm pretty sure it would have been a popular figure to have so Kenner must have thought it best to keep the children happy, after all they did seem to really care about keeping their customers happy (unlike most toy companies now a days).

It's funny thinking back that I didn't even realize there was a brown snake until years later and for me Yoda always looks better with an orange snake. I have an orange snake Yoda that I may well marry up to a Palitoy 30 back card back just so I can make my dreams come true! :D

Ian
 
Palifan said:
Andyclarke said:
Slightly off track.

80's'_collector Ian, as someone who's been around a long time :wink: I was wondering if you recognise the sticker on the C-3P0 cardback below. This card was mine from being a kid and always wondered what it was. I have seen a few carded examples, but only of C-3PO with the same sticker and we have speculated in the past without anyone really knowing. An auction house has one coming up for sale and they state it is a wholesalers sticker, which I'd never thought about before. Do you think this is possible? How would they end up with the wholesalers? Was C-3PO a particularly bad seller in comparison to the other 12 backs?

I had 4 Palitoy 12 backs with those stickers on, C-3PO, Luke, Vader and R2 and never did come to the bottom of it although a friend of mine seemed to think they may have come from a catalog or Argos. It sounds like the Argos theory is out but the catalog one might stick if the shop you bought it from back in the day was a small family run business.

I'm really surprised that nobody on here knows for sure but with 80's collector mentioning seeing them on other toy lines is does make you think that it was some fairly big company selling these, they've clearly added them to the products they're selling which is an extra cost to them so I can only think that they were dealing in big numbers of items.

Ian

Did the 4 you mention all have the same code number? I think Ian might be right and perhaps clearance stock or were destined for export maybe. Ex catalogue is a good shout. I guess if the code is the same for all, it could be random which figure you got.
 
Did the 4 you mention all have the same code number? I think Ian might be right and perhaps clearance stock or were destined for export maybe. Ex catalogue is a good shout. I guess if the code is the same for all, it could be random which figure you got.[/quote]

Good question about the 4 having the same code numbers but I can't really remember. I seemed to think they were different but I removed them from the figures but did keep them somewhere labeled up for future reference. If I ever come across them I'll post them up but you could look around on the net to see if you can find some pictures of other Polity card backs with them on. Vectors did have one I seem to remember and also I think one went on eBay a while back that was a graded 12 back, might have even been 3PO so it would be interesting to see if it matched yours.

Found one and it is the same! - http://www.vectis.co.uk/Page/ViewLot.aspx?LotId=264175&Section=1060&Start=40

Ian
 
Although they are not Argos codes figures sold in Argos were in packs of 4, so four different figures would have had the same catalogue number. It's not much of a stretch to believe that another company did the same thing.
I can't find any decent scans of other catalogues to help try and figure out which one it may have been
 
Personally, I could be wrong but I couldn't imagine a catalogue company putting labels on individual figures, it doesn't make sense, fair enough if they labelled and coded a set of six.
 
What baffles me most is reading chris's catalogue reference the 60 pack with a code,
Due to the fact years ago I always wholesaled in 100s, but 10 years ago I started dealing with an old school wholesaler from the 1950s, he explained how it all worked.

If you notice with sw action man and even product today that everything is sold in units of 6,12,24,36,48,96 or 144 this is because a gross is 144 units of a product.

3 cases of 48 sw figures would be a gross, and 3 cases of 96 sw figures would be 2 gross this is how it works in the wholesale trade, so. Chris's catalogue is a weird one as sw figures weren't packed in 60s they were packed in 12,24,48 and 96.
So was the 60 pack just a reference ?
 
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