Talk about new Star Wars movie, do not read if you have NOT seen it

[_Lee_]

Guys,

Please calm this situation down, its getting out of control. Below is a part of a pm i got from a member today which made me rethink everything:

"I am a big advocate of live and let live and that there isn't a one sized cookie cutter for everyone"

Now this made me think. I had exchanged a few pms with a member here today who ive known for a long time ( he will remain anonymous) and told him why i hold the OT so close to my heart. Thinking i was being a pathetic wimp, he came back and said he knows exactly why i feel like that and that we are similar. I also know now that i was being over protective of not what i thought was MY Star Wars, but my stupid sentimentality. The OT times bring a lump to my throat, and i fear my memories being damaged. This is of course, is silly of me. Ive tried to bring myself round to the new films by posting threads over the past year saying that im coming round to them, probably to help myself. The thing with me is that my moods change like the weather, and ill change my mind back and forth and this doesnt help with medical issues. Roll on today and ive reflected on these pm,s and i almost burst into tears at one point. Yeah, yeah im a ponce but it really got to me. I will be taking my son to see the film and will give my honest opinion.

Ian, calm down buddy , just relax a little. I think this is getting out of control. Grant didnt deserve what has been said, and personal things shouldnt be thrown around bud. Im sure Grant knows he has said some things he regrets in this thread too.

Grant, i know you have been quiet lately, and some of it was down to negativity around the place about TFA, but ive had chats with you before via pm and if you need to chat about anything please message me. Whether you are or are not in a dark place is nobodys business but your own, and you will tell the people you want to if need be. As you have said before to me, you and i are alike in many ways. Anyways, if you need me, pm me bud.

Now lets chill out, and relax. All this over a movie FFS!! Lets get real here.

If you guys think you have it bad, im dreading the day they decide to remake the Godfather or do a sequel. With my wife being Italian she will cut off my balls in my sleep just because im there for her to take it out on

 

[Ian_C]

Last post from me in here, at least for the time being.

I apologize if my thoughts and opinions have been misunderstood as needless bashing of the film. I have not intended to insult people. I came here because I was sick of the way disrespect and trolling is rampant on another big site, and this place far surpasses that in camaraderie. I think in an effort to express my feelings about TFA, I may have lost sight of that and unintentionally started coming across as exactly what made me leave RS.

No disrespect was intended to anyone at any point, and I apologize to anyone who felt that way. I hope those of you who loved it continue to do so. I'll try to sit more on the sidelines for a while regarding this movie.

Cheers all,

Ian

 

[Pomse2001]

what character die in episode 2 and 4 ? :?

Episode 2 - Jango Fett (not too major)

Episode 4 - Obi-Wan Kenobi. To a lesser extent, Tarkin.

Ian

Sorry I meant episode 5 ? ok I forgot Jango fett

 

[Pomse2001]

That was what I assumed too...

After I saw that city and the flash I assumed coruscant is gone, but could it have been another planet ? :?

I don't think it was Coruscant, done a quick Google search on folks that have been reading the books leading up to the film:-

1.) Hosnian Prime They said they attacked the Hosnian System. It only makes sense they have destroyed Hosnian Prime, since they almost literally said it.
2.) Chandrilla This is according to the canon book Aftermath. The senate was located here.
We are not sure which one of the 2 it is, but we can safely assume it was Hosnian Prime. We are sure it wasn't Coruscant though.

Nice to know it was not coruscant thanks mate :wink:

 

[Ian_C]

what character die in episode 2 and 4 ? :?

Episode 2 - Jango Fett (not too major)

Episode 4 - Obi-Wan Kenobi. To a lesser extent, Tarkin.

Ian

Sorry I meant episode 5 ? ok I forgot Jango fett

Ahhh, thought forgetting Obi-Wan would be strange. I think you're right. ESB, only minor characters like Veers, Dak, etc. were killed as best as I can remember.

Luke's hand, maybe? lol

Ian

 

[chiffy]

Hi guys, just this minute got back from the cinema and i can't really describe the state i'm in at the mo. I feel really disappointed and i can't explain why? I havent read ANY other posts apart from some squabbling on the few posts above mine so i will trawl thru and see if anyone else gets this feeling when i get time. Basically, and just my opinion, they crammed 3 films worth into 1 AND, for whatever reason, to kill off Han is pretty gutting. It also bores me the way they feel the need to repeat stuff to live upto the other films and having Ren as the child of Solo and Organa does my head in, we've seen it all before. Dammit i really wanna luv it but i'm in some kind of shock i think. My lad loved it. Its very childish and is a typical Disney product. Sorry if ive peed anyone off but ive searched my feelings and its the best i can come up with right now. R2 shuts down just because Luke has pissed off??? Finn can use a saber and gives the main baddie a run for his money? And isnt it about time a massive **** off battle station doesnt get done over by 20 rebels on a bit of grass??? Grr anyways i'll sleep on it. May the force be with you....always.

 

[Spookedhippie]

. Saw it last night and I'm not sure how to feel! I liked it yes, killing Han no. Like lots have said its a very busy movie. Star Wars always has two plot lines going and this seemed to have four or five. I would have preferred this spread over three films, not one. I'm going again Saturday and I'm hoping I can enjoy more now I know what to expect. I'm still feeling in a daze!

 

[db94]

Chiffy mate we are on exactly the same page with this

 

[x-pack]

I ****in loved it Bit mad in places but what the hell. Haven't read any other posts except the couple above but i'm guessing opinions are divided. This film was always going to get ripped apart but I reckon J.J did a cracking job. Just got to make up your own mind.

Now to read what others think ...

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Just got back from the 5.30pm afternoon show, filled with kids (my own included)....

They loved it, there was huge applause at the end and the children in the audience made the movie come to life for me too. I read through the thread and there seemed to be some disappointment from those who saw it at the 'midnight' grown up show - and I get that. Tarantino flicks make great midnight movies, Star Wars movies do not.

Star Wars for me has always been a perfect Sunday afternoon movie - a matinee movie. And let's never forget, it is a family film!

I loved the pairing of Finn and Rey, they had great chemistry and they really brought the movie to life with the energy of youth. And the other great pairing of the film was Han and Chewie, they just seemed so comfortable and natural together (and Harrison Ford hasn't been this good for decades). Poe was cool too and I can see him 'stepping into the shoes' of the one major character who has left us (and yep, not ashamed to admit I did shed a tear).

Saw it in 3D which didn't add much (except for one cool shot of a Star Destroyer that really seemed to be pointing out of the screen), and I deffo plan to see it again in 2D. The slight negatives were Captain Phasma having nothing to do, and Supreme Leader Snoke, who looked too phony (wish they had used prosthetics and make up rather than fully CG). But in all it was a crowd pleaser and I really look forward to seeing this one again and Episode VIII.

Best Star Wars movie since Return Of The Jedi!

 

[Grant_C]

I was overwhelmed on the first showing. Had a few issues that seem to be consistent with other posts.

Watched again and loved it. Much better in 2D.

Rey was fantastic.

 

[monkey_roo]

Watched it today and like a few people I need to see it again to really get my feelings sorted. sounds a bit daft but I was so hyped up going in I think I found the overall experience overwelming.

That said there were bits that jumped out as being fantastic. The overal visual presentation was special, seeing the X-wings and tie's going at it like an old Battle of Britain film was fantastic and the Falcon was great, the visuals and flight action with the crash take off were something fun.

There was a bit of 'seen it before' in terms of the overall plot and some of the hooks used to move the story along, but at the same time there is enough new and hinted at in terms of the 40 year gap that we are yet to learn that makes it ok.

The new characters are great, Rey is awesome and easily strong enough to lead the cast in the next film, which I also assume will see Luke play a bigger part and Leia and Chewie continue in a supporting role.

Finn and Poe were nice characters, I think a bit more from them next time out.

Ren comes across as the conflicted, petulant child that Anakin was meant to be but somehow wasn't and there is a lot of story to come out there as to how that came about.

Little point talking about Han, It bought a tear to my eye, but I got over it and in some ways it added a gravity to the film as the perfect foil to some of the lighter moments, I also suspect that it was Fords one stipulation when agreeing to come back, after all he tried it 40 years ago and failed.

I did find the ending a bit abrupt, it would have been nice to have some exchange between Rey and Luke but it has left me wanting more, which was the point I guess.

I enjoyed the film but now need to watch it again and see if I love it.

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Rey was fantastic.

I couldn't agree more, what a great performance and a great character (so pleased they cast an unknown, and they hit the jackpot with the actress). We are all blokes here, and when we saw Star Wars we had Luke to aspire to - but having daughters I really enjoyed their reaction to Rey as it was so positive. Daisy Ridley is going to inspire a whole new generation of young girls, mark my words.

 

[Joe]

I absolutely loved it.

Like others have said, there are some niggles here and there (wasn't a big fan of Adam Drivers performance sans mask..or even his face sans mask for that matter either!) but when compared to PT, AOTC or ROTS..it really feels like a Star Wars movie and more importantly it feels very much at home alongside the OT. You could put TFA on straight after Jedi and for me, it would be the perfect sequel.

There are some great (and much needed) laughs in the film at points where you will most likely be thinking "do I actually like this yet?" which really make you smile and let you get comfy and enjoy the rest of the film.

Loved BB8, loved Finn and Rey (not sure I would call those performances bad/flat at all, especially not Boyega's!) - I agree that Captain Phasma was pointless though, I really expected them to take her mask off or something when she was caught and although I laughed at the trash compactor joke we didn't even see them throw her in! I actually forgot about the character completely after that - what a waste.

As for the feels..well, my wife cried about 3 times and I held back the tears on a few occasions too (even when I knew what was coming). R2 playing the part of dog who had lost his master was a fun idea and it was great to see him interacting with BB8.

The prequels did so much damage to Star Wars that it feels unfair to give TFA anything less than 10/10.

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Joe, I agree about Captain Phasma - in retrospect would have been better for her to have been piloting one of the TIEs defending Starkiller Base, to give a face to the First Order squadron vs the X-Wings.

Did Phasma get blown up with Starkiller Base at the end? Like you say it was left hanging, maybe a scene got cut?

 

[x-pack]

As for the feels..well, my wife cried about 3 times and I held back the tears on a few occasions too (even when I knew what was coming)

Oh I didn't try to hold back at all (the reason I sat further forward than anyone else in the cinema). It was emotional to be sure. Most of the first hour I was welling up. Never ever experienced that before in any film ...except for the end of Titanic maybe (probably should have kept that in my head and off the forum) :lol:

Wonderful viewing experience 9.5/10

 

[Joe]

Joe, I agree about Captain Phasma - in retrospect would have been better for her to have been piloting one of the TIEs defending Starkiller Base, to give a face to the First Order squadron vs the X-Wings.

Did Phasma get blown up with Starkiller Base at the end? Like you say it was left hanging, maybe a scene got cut?

Yeah that would have been a good idea, even if she had to die in a dogfight at least we would have seen more of her (she could have taken a few x-wings out before that perhaps).

On another note, one thing I did walk away a little unsure of happens right at the end.. Once it looks like the Rebels have won and the whole thing is collapsing - Snoke tells General Hux to retrieve Kylo Ren so he can finish his training..but then the whole planet/base blows up almost seconds later (or at least it felt like it was that quick) - did he even know where to look for him? Did any of the bad guys make it off that thing?? lol!

(I guess they did..but it just seemed kinda fast and we didn't see any sign of life from any of the first order..> Was that just me?)

Still..10/10 - it's the Star Wars film I always wanted to see, it's not the OT but that doesn't matter to me.

 

[Joe]

As for the feels..well, my wife cried about 3 times and I held back the tears on a few occasions too (even when I knew what was coming)

Oh I didn't try to hold back at all (the reason I sat further forward than anyone else in the cinema). It was emotional to be sure. Most of the first hour I was welling up. Never ever experienced that before in any film ...except for the end of Titanic maybe (probably should have kept that in my head and off the forum) :lol:

Wonderful viewing experience 9.5/10

If I had let myself go I would have been a blubbering mess... :lol: Got the lump though!! Tears were there but I did the Dad thing and pretended I had something in my eye :lol:

 

[Pomse2001]

Episode 2 - Jango Fett (not too major)

Episode 4 - Obi-Wan Kenobi. To a lesser extent, Tarkin.

Ian

Sorry I meant episode 5 ? ok I forgot Jango fett

Ahhh, thought forgetting Obi-Wan would be strange. I think you're right. ESB, only minor characters like Veers, Dak, etc. were killed as best as I can remember.

Luke's hand, maybe? lol

Ian

Luke's hand, that was a good one :lol:

 

[db94]

Imagine last week I posted a competition saying guess what film I watched this afternoon, 1st prize a lovely MOC.
Here are some clues to help you guess.

Film starts off with a battle, hero has been tasked with retrieving some vital info that the good guys want.
Bad guys quickly over run the good guys so the hero places the info in a droid and tells it to bugger off
Droid wanders about a desert until pick up by scavengers - luckily an unassuming character takes it in and once they discover it holds vital info they vow to help return it to their owner.

Along the way they bump into new characters including a smuggler and his wookie co pilot, they also go to a space bar full of weird looking creatures. While they are there some of the locals tip off the bad guys so they have to fight their way out.

The bad guys have this really big weapon floating around in space and to prove how powerful it is they use it to blow up an innocent planet killing millions of people.

The droid gets reunited with his owner but unfortunately the bad guys have tracked the ship to the good guys hidden base and now the big floating weapon is heading their way - tension builds as we hear the countdown to it being in firing range.

There is hope though as the droid and the hero take off in their spaceship to make a attack on the weapon, they have to contend with enemy fighters and turbo lasers but at the last second (the base was actually clear to fire on the good guys) he blows it up saving everyone.

It's not all good though as one of the older characters (that some of the younger ones have almost grown to see as a father figure) was killed by someone that was once very close to them, it was a brutal killing that they witnessed but they were too far away to help and could only watch on in horror.

Guessing most people would have considered that a very easy comp!

What a load of ****in ****!!!!! Add in the replay of the bunker scene from ROTJ with Han and Chewie and TFA is just a complete rehash of the original films.

Remember at the end of Star Trek reboot it was left that the timeline had been changed so the next film could go in any direction but what did JJ do a complete retelling of wrath of Khan - something that he later publically apologised for and most recently the makers of the 3rd film have said thanks JJ but we are not considering it cannon and the next film will pretend edge of darkness didn't happen.

Great characters and physical props/sets are wonderful but we deserved an original script to go with it