spoons said:
weasel said:
PS, You think RVP will stay? I still think it's very much up in the air. I wouldn't blame him for leaving, and if he does you are in big big trouble! Look at the % of your goals he scores, you'll be next season's Liverpool! Lol
I think he probably will, but if he didn't someone would replace him - they said we were doomed when vierra left, when Henry left and when fabregas left. Not much to show for it but top 4 every year, is hardly doomed
I think this is where we decend into semantics. Is your definition of "doomed" relegation/mid table obscurity, or is it not challenging for the league. Personally, I dont think Arsenal have been the same since Vierra left. Him going started the dismanteling of the invincibles amd whilst they remain a very good side, they don't scare other clubs like they did then, and they certainly haven't challenged for the league like they did.
As for Liverpool. I was unsure when Kenny was appointed, 15 years (or however long he was out for) is a long time to be out of the management game and even now I'm still not sure what to make of him. Some of his tactical decisions have been brilliant, playing 3 at the back against.......ehhh someone, I forget who lol, worked a treat and won us the game. But other times I'm left scratching my head and wondering quite WTF he is thinking and why he doesn't make changes sooner.
I agree about Downing, he was good at Villa last year and has been firing in a good few crosses this year, but no league goals or assist is a damming indictment of a winger!
Henderson looked promising at Sunderland but never looked a 20 million quid player and this year at times has looked like a fish out of water.
Carroll is the same as Torres, a player stuck at a club that doesn't play in a style that suits him, in fact, quite the opposite. It's no ****ing wonder both have struggled.
It's a strange one, I don't think sacking/moving KK will achieve much, the club doesn't really need ANOTHER set of new ideas after having 3 managers in 2 years, but at the same I'm still not convinced that they are making progress under Kenny. Stopping the rot that set in under "uncle woy" is not the same as progress.
Granted squad overhauls take time, and ours needed/needs a major overhauld, but how long is 'long enough/time for someone else'?
