Royal Mail Price Changes 02/04/13

[flycasual]

Heads up: http://www.royalmail.com/prices-2013

 

[itfciain]

Yeah, I just read about them - looks like a decent packed MOC will set you back about £8.00 now

 

[walkie]

let me be the first to say.....ROBBING BASTARDS!

 

[Richard_H]

Wouldn't mind paying the price if the service justified it. Interesting to see how the Royal Mail can get away with inflation busting price increases year on year.

 

[Snake_eyes_82]

Yeah, I just read about them - looks like a decent packed MOC will set you back about £8.00 now

**** me! Glad I'm leaving the country.

 

[jedi_masters]

let me be the first to say.....ROBBING BASTARDS!

Why are Royal Mail robbing bastards?? Are they not allowed to put up prices like everyone else does?? Ok, parcels prices are changing considerably, but other areas have been frozen.

Fuel, rent, bills have all gone up so they have to recoup the money somewhere, just like every other business does.

It amazes me how everyone slates Royal Mail for this, yet people still use the service.

Flip it, if it was your delivery business and fuel costs had say gone up 25%, rent 50% and utility bills 60% on last year, are you telling me you wouldn't put up your prices up to try and recoup some of this cost?? You would happily swallow that increase??

 

[PGowdy]

let me be the first to say.....ROBBING BASTARDS!

Why are Royal Mail robbing bastards?? Are they not allowed to put up prices like everyone else does?? Ok, parcels prices are changing considerably, but other areas have been frozen.
Fuel, rent, bills have all gone up so they have to recoup the money somewhere, just like every other business does.

I think the issue here is a lot of their price structuring just never makes much sense to me. And there's a lot of tricky little ways they always try and get more money out of you.
I send a lot of envelopes with 1 or a couple of paper stickers in internationally. They ask "what's in it" if i reply "a sticker" they'll say "£2.70" if i say, "it's paper"- "£1.20" That's a GIGANTIC difference in price for seemingly no reason. What part of that difference is costing them extra 'gas, rent, man-power' etc??? I've since learnt to lie.
Also the other day i wanted to post a largish envelope to ireland which always pay about £1.20 for. I put it on the weigher and it comes to about 30gms (there's almost nothing in it it's basically the weight of an envelope) He says he wants to measure it. It's literally 1mm bigger than that square thing they have to measure it so he says "it's a "packet" it's gonna be £2.70" even tho EVERY other time i go in with about 20 of these envelopes (envelopes not ****ing packages!) a week i pay about £1.20 odd. I ask him does he think they purposely make it a mm smaller than a standard large envelope he replies "probably". Yup, i think so too. So i say "do you have scissors? i'm gonna cut the ****ing thing and we'll measure it again". The dozen or so people in the queue waited while he went and got scissors for me, i cut the outer rim of the envelope on each side about a mm or so. Measures it again. "Ok, £1.20 now" he says. "Oh so it's not a package anymore then??"
I then hand them a box, 5 times the size of the aforementioned envelope (about the size of a show box) and weighing about 10 times more... "that's £2.70".... The mind boggles.
I just think the whole structuring needs to makes a bit more sense, be a bit more honest and reasonable for what you're posting. Happy to pay big for big, heavy or expensive items but many things i post the postage costs more than the item i'm sending. WAY more.
And i'm not even gonna get into the 'held package "handling fee". DO NOT GET ME STARTED!

 

[Frunkstar]

I agree that they have to cover there expenses that have gone up in line with inflation, but I agree more with Pete in regard to them being tricksters & deliberately trying to snag extra costs by making there criteria for what is/what is not a package etc, I learnt white back to tape the corners of envelopes when you send a book game of DVD's etc as if I send a book done this way its over a pound cheaper, that stupid letter box slot always annoys the heck out of me though as there are items that will clearly fit through by just a tiny bit of pressure, no more than enough to make the bubble wrap within a padded envelope spread a tiny bit, but will they allow it through? - no if it does not literally drop through its a package :?

 

[spoons]

Can't argue wih that Pete :lol:

That handling fee gets my goat too - you see what goes on in some sorting offices it's no wonder thing get lost

This Christmas I watched a guy stand on parcels in desperation to find a lost package in the sorting room, and I've previously found a heap of parcels tied with an elastic band lying in the street outside the sorting office gates. I handed it in and no one batted an eyelid.

Don't get me wrong some individual posties are fantastic but charging more for a very flawed service isn't right - you watch RM post super profits in a years time....

 

[Frunkstar]

You would think they would have already implemented a price finder for the new pricing structure, but its still just the old one, you watch them not bother updating the dam thing for 6 months to catch you out.

just been reading the new layout & this bit had me rolling "QUOTE" Choosing the right parcel service is as easy as 1, 2, 3…

We have listened to your feedback and have simplified our parcel services.

From 2 April 2013 you will have a clear choice of delivery options with features designed around you: "END QUOTE"

Yeah right, only just got used to the last change :?

 

[DarthStanley]

Well having just posted 2 parcels where one of them would've cost me £3.65 last week & now cost me £6.75 because it was classed as a medium sized parcel as it was just a little bit bigger & wouldn't fit in the small parcel slot,i would say they are ROBBING BASTARDS! :twisted:

Even the Postmaster was shaking his head & saying that they'll lose loads of business! :roll:

 

[edd_jedi]

The problem is that their pricing (along with many other couriers) makes no sense. How can it cost the same amount of money to send an envelope from one address in London to the house next door, or that same envelope to Edinburgh? Or for a 2 metre square box weighing 2kg to cost less than a 50cm square box that weights 2.1kg? IMO they need to factor the following in to their pricing - distance, size, weight, AND size to weight ratio to allow for a little common sense. Surely the size of a package has to be the main pricing factor, not weight. The current system just clearly doesn't work. Imagine trying to run a flat rate national taxi service!

 

[plantainman]

Just got back from the post office. Got the little pamphlets about all the new costs and a roll of signed for stickers.
Some of things I noticed whilst posting items today was :

2ND CLASS RECORDED PACKET
Old price : £3.15
New price : £3.70 (17% increase)

The "signed for" service appears to be £1.10 instead of 95p (16% increase)

2ND CLASS PACKET
Old price : £2.20
New price : £2.60 (18% increase)

Its absolutely disgraceful. Basically a killer to anyone who packages their items properly.

FU RM.

 

[_Lee_]

Guys,i just came back from the post office after sending 4 lots of cardbacks with bubbles.I had weighed 3 of them and they came into £4.00 or so from the old price list,however i got back today and was charged £6.30 each package.The bigger package with 12 cardbacks was £9.30.

****ing robbing bastards.Part of the reason why i cant stand the monarchy.Im sick of lining their ****ing pockets...

 

[chazb73]

I'm afraid I was caught out with this yesterday - yep £6.30 yesterday.

I'm not surprised though everything is going up and wages are frozen or going down.

 

[plantman]

This only drives business away from them, using a courier is now the same price as royal mail, and they pick the parcel up from your door lol

i also use collect+ where you drop your parcel off at a local shop and the courier only has one pickup, costs £4.99 and there is no queuing at the post office behind all the deadbeats slinging their benefits cards at the staff and saying "all of it love"

its fully trackable too from door to door so better than royal mail for tracking

http://www.collectplus.co.uk/

Andy

 

[Lee77]

I think the main problem is the randomness of all the pricing. I sent a graded moc out last week on next day delivery and it was just under £8.
Today I've sent 4 mocs in star cases, double boxed with **** loads of packing. Next day B4 1 with £2500 insurance and it only cost £14.00!

 

[chazb73]

This only drives business away from them, using a courier is now the same price as royal mail, and they pick the parcel up from your door lol

i also use collect+ where you drop your parcel off at a local shop and the courier only has one pickup, costs £4.99 and there is no queuing at the post office behind all the deadbeats slinging their benefits cards at the staff and saying "all of it love"

its fully trackable too from door to door so better than royal mail for tracking

http://www.collectplus.co.uk/

Andy

Great link mate - thanks for that :wink:

 

[plantman]

no worries mate, they use Yodel and Hermes i think, ive posted a link in Off Topic for people to list who they use and why, the key thing for me is the live tracking and delivery confirmation, ive had no end of RM Recorded not update online and i **** myself just in case they make a claim (i never add the tracking to ebay listings anyway)

even a large say 1.5kg parcel with royal mail is about £7 i think, so collectplus all the way for me

 

[chazb73]

Excellent - I'm going to look them up for my next posting :wink: