Reseal vs Beater

[Clarkspie&chips]

I quick question I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on. At what point would a reseal be more desirable than a beater?

The reason I ask is a tri yak reseal just sold (in seconds it seems) for roughly the same amount my brothers tri yak moc with a melted bubble was valued at.

Fair enough the valuation was over a year ago and it would likely be more now but I was more interested in the desirability as side by side the reseal looks like the one to go for.

 

[Lindo]

Personally I don't like reseals so would rather have a beater, if reseals sell for higher than a factory sealed beater, assuming the same card and figure then that's just stupidly imo

 

[Mr-shifter]

Beater for me. i had enquired about the reseal that came up yesterday and was weighing up an offer before it sold.

It sold on the forum originally in February and I had a discussion with the seller then and made what I thought was a serious offer. He disagreed and it went no further.

In my opinion a reseal is only really worth the sum of its parts, and as much as I want a yak, I don't want to pay a fortune. If you said £100 for the card and bubble and £200 for the yak, which is top end in anyone's book you are still miles away from the £420 it was up for.

But they are selling moc for stupid money, hence this got jumped on.

Scott, if your brother is still interested in selling to someone who will give it a good home let me know. I am still in the market for one, albeit playing the long game.

 

[lejackal]

Beater most of the time however perfectly happy for a reseal on a rare card as I'll not be spending 4 figure sums on the one I want anytime soon.

 

[Robstyley]

I think it just depends on personal preference, also what figure it is, what the reseal is like and what the beater is like. I don't have any reseals but that's probably because I'm not collecting highly valuable mocs. I also don't really have any beaters for the same reason. I can understand people going for a good reseal or a beater if they can't afford a mint sealed one. I too would prefer a slightly damaged sealed one than a reseal.

 

[Mr-shifter]

I have a harbert Sandperson. It's moc it very lifted on 3 sides. You can't take the figure out. Its a beater on the verge of being a reseal. I butchered a top loader to keep it safe. It was a fraction of the cost of a sealed moc and looks fantastic on display.

 

[Woolyniner]

Recently I had a re-seal Lando ESB palitoy and the same card as a beater. The bubble was cut and the name plate missing. I lived with the two for a few weeks and decided I preferred the beater. Now the beater I had bought in person, and the reseal from ebay and I tend to prefer items bought in person and that was a factor why I kept the beater. But there was something about seeing glue added to a card that bothered me.

I think I would rather make a beater look good by sticking it in a display case or toploader (or both) and not tampering with the original, rather than adding something permanent like glue. I enjoy the process of making a beater look better through an almost optical illusion of display.

 

[itfciain]

To be honest - I thought that was a really good re-seal on the Yak and was about on the money - for display purposes then that looks just as good - and although I agree with Ben that it is the sum of the parts - in this case I think that because the seal had already taken place and been done well then it was worthy of the price

The best thing about this hobby is that we don't all collect the same way - to some reseals are the spawn of the devil and to others (and I am in this camp for sure) they are a very good way to pick up some good looking cards at a fraction of the price a factory seal would cost. (see Ryan/Bluedogs collection for awesomeness)

Others would take a beater over a re-seal any day and I get their reasoning - they may not look as aesthetically pleasure but they are all genuine

With regards to the OPs comments - I would say that a beater Yak - with no bubble cracks should be worth more than the 420GBP - probably closer to the 600GBP (and before anyone says anything about that not being the true value then I am talking current market price - especially out here in the US)

 

[SAVORY100]

I have a few Palitoy 12 back reseals in my collection; all original parts. I'm perfectly happy with them in my collection.
I'd love the original factory sealed versions, but I simply can't afford them, even as beaters.

 

[robpmarsh]

I'd prefer a beater card but I do have reseals in my collection (mainly ones I've done myself from original parts)

An example of this is my Pali Fett....I'd never pay what this would cost mint so the £35 the parts cost me thanks to a forum member means i get to enjoy this:

 

[Grant_C]

5 Years ago I would have said a beater, but these days with prices so hi and the figures getting older by the decade, id say good luck and hopefully you'll find something that makes you happy.

I have a three quarter seal, 1 quarter reseal Palitoy 12 back Chewbacca. Got it for £80. I can enjoy it without feeling guilty of spending £2500. Should gave bought the rest of now.

 

[Joe]

5 Years ago I would have said a beater, but these days with prices so hi and the figures getting older by the decade, id say good luck and hopefully you'll find something that makes you happy.

I have a three quarter seal, 1 quarter reseal Palitoy 12 back Chewbacca. Got it for £80. I can enjoy it without feeling guilty of spending £2500. Should gave bought the rest of now.

I agree with Grant, years ago I would never have touched a reseal and would have opted for a sealed beater if given the choice but nowadays with the kind of money being ponied up for factory sealed examples of HTF figures (regardless of condition).."cheap" reseals suddenly seem much more appealing.

 

[jared007]

Good topic. For me, it all comes down to rarity and price if I was to even consider a reseal in my collection. All weighed up, I'd prefer the tattered beater with bubble half off, than a re-glued equivalent.

It would have to be a substantial discount, and have to be a really rare example for me to consider it. Thought experiment -- if someone offered to deal on a ESB Meccano square card Bobafett (recently sold at Vectis 25K) that had been resealed, at what price would it be attractive?

I'd be willing to go into the hundreds but no more. Now a beater, with bubble hanging off I'd be willing to go more.

 

[Michael Sith]

I have no issue with reseals, as they are a budget way of collecting, but also respect others opinions on preference for beaters ( which I have as well).
That is the beauty of this hobby, is it not, it's all about, personal preferences, budget and what you are happy with yourself.
If you collect reseals, beaters, or mint top end, we are all collecting the pieces we love and have a passion for

Prices are silly now for me any way, so more than happy to continue on the reseal road, and put together a collection of the pieces that make me smile.

 

[Clarkspie&chips]

Great responses ladds and interesting opinions.

Until recently I was in the "reseals are fine but not for me" camp but had the opportunity to aquire slit bubble mocs of all 4 cantina aliens for a fraction of the cost of a single sealed one and am really happy I took the plunge.

To get the 4 sealed for the same cost I'd have had to have bought some right shitters.

So for mocs that are out of my price range (eg the mecanno fett), I think I'd rather go for the reseal over the beater if I had the choice and both were for sale at fair market value.

Ben, I appreciate the comment and I mention it to him nearly every time I see him but no joy in getting him off his arse yet. I'll keep trying though.

 

[darth_daddius]

I have both reseals and beaters in my own collection. If its a reasonably - reasonably - common card/figure combo then I wouldn't look at reseal. If its a 12 back Meccano card, then a reseal is rare in itself!

It all depends on the scarcity of the combo. Obviously if the contents can't be verified (is KayBee 2-Packs) I stay away from them.

Cheers,
Pat

 

[theforceuk]

Beater for me all the way, every time.

 

[yoda]

I have 2 figures perfect for reseals a Farmboy I bought from lain and rebel solider from Jeff. The cards are in really good nick. I have thought about it but it's also not for me either. Like a few others I prefer to leave it and not tamper with it. I don't like the idea of putting fresh glue near it. I am happy just leaving them as they are knowing everything is still original from the factory.
I hope to someday own most of the figures carded and haven't ever considered reseals at the minute. For now I would rather do without a figure I wanted than buy one resealed.
But I see no harm in them if others like them in there collection it is our own choice at the end of the day.

 

[poncho]

I prefer beaters the fact they are still sealed after 30 and have survived storage in attics,draws,cellars, cupboards, old shop stock I think is fantastic and amazing

 

[Pomse2001]

I do not like reseals. So I would always think beater is better to have than a reseal