Prototype Leia Helmet on the Bay

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vintage-star-wars-leia-boosh-unpaited-helmet-test-shot-prototype-last-17-/120811160059?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item1c20e801fb

What do you guys think to this? IMO this is very overpriced. Would you get that for the whole figure! :shock:
 
I think it is a crock to be honest. No info on where it has come from and in one of the pictures it just looks like it has been stretched out.

I wouldn't pay £2.50 for it !
 
Considering you can buy this from Oli : http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-STAR-WARS-BOUSHH-UNPAINTED-HELMET-C10-MINT-VERY-RARE-/270850229379?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item3f0fee8483

All known pre production versions are the Hong Kong mold with a letter inside. (same as Ledy overstock)
All the Taiwan versions with no paint are doubtful. But it is possible that there are some test runs from the Taiwan factory & a batch that left the factory unpainted.
 
No malice intended and i am sure its prob not the same figure but i remember seeing this a while back as i had dealings with the seller!

Its the second neg down!

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=mortlockj&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true
 
Hey guys, just wanted to clarify a few things on my Boushh unpainted helmet auction. I'm not making any prototype claims. It's simply an unpainted helmet which in my opinion is a production error. The price is lower than I paid for it.

From reading past RS threads I believe that legit unpainted helmets are Taiwan issue and slightly over sized. The one I bought from Mortlock (who by the way is one rude son of a bitch who deserves all the negs he/she gets) is Hong Kong issue, standard size, no letter inside the helmet and some signs of paint residue - I would no way ever sell that one with a claim of it being legit.

I'll add a comparison picture tonight when I get home :)
 
Some additional reading on the topic. I certainly dont mind being questioned on this one as its a bit of a grey area and just like the white arm lobot there doesnt seem to be agreement.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t904175/

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2261-unpainted-leia-boushh-helmet-help

I would be very hesitant about banding about the term prototype though as i believe there are only a very very small number of these out there and unless it came with a prototype figure or from a source of provenance then it should be taken with a pinch of salt.

In addition both the "prototype" and the "Lili Ledy overstock" are on Hong Kong issue helmets which are the same size and texture as the standard version and exceedingly easy to remove the paint from. Not that i have ever tried :) It is therefore very hard to proove their legitamacy.

The generally accepted opinion, and I use that in its looses sense was that the true unpainted Boushh helmets came on Taiwan issue helmets which were larger in size and have a prominent raised circle on the inside as well as being very soft and rubbery texture and matte coloured.

The enlarged size of the helmet (and I'm feeling very self concious while I write this sentence :)) is a good indicator of legitimacy although some have said this is a result of chemical stripping. However chemical stripping can lead to teraing of the plastic especially on the crown of the helmet which is quite noticable. I am also curious as to why it would not have a similar effect on the Hong Kong issue helmets.

So in my opinion a Taiwan issue helmet which is enlarged and made of a soft rubbery texture and matte colour and with a raised circle on the inside, with no damage to the crown and no paint residue visible is about as close as you can get to guaranteeing legitimacy. However, I would still only classify the real thing as a production error which in my opinion is a variant. Some might not call a production error a variant but many do and the terms applies in many other collecting circles so why not here.

My theory on the unpainted Taiwan helmet (and i'm no expert on the production process) so its purely a theory is that the type of material used and the temperature when it was removed from the mould may have caused the helmet to expand. It may have been difficult to paint these defective helmets with the paint masks so they remained unpainted but were still used on stock.

Judging by previous auctions i think £60 is a reasonable price. £250 is most certainly not and I dont think the term prototype is appropriate. From the photo it did look like a legitimate unpainted helmet though - just exceedingly over priced.

Mortlocks helmet was Hong Kong issue and came on a Tawian issue figure - so either way it was wrong plus he refused to even enter into conversation about its legitimacy.

I have some full length comparison photos to add, but no close ups at the moment until I get the light box out.

Oli
 
Sorry guys got stuck in a bit of a slanging match on Rebelscum so this is about all I have time to post till I get the light box out for some close ups.

Left: Taiwan Boushh Helmet - lighter in colour, matte and clean finish.
Right: Hong Kong Boushh Helmet - darker in colour, glossy and notice the uneven finish. Looks like someone has taken a wire brush to it.

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Despite the photos the Taiwan helmet on the left is much bigger.

Close ups to follow soon if anyone interested to see them :)
 

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