Premier League 2019/2020 Thread

I didn't see the game tonight, but Jose has nothing to work with at the back. I mean if your best option for central defender is Eric Dier, what chance do you have!? He needs to scrap the lot of them and start again over the summer. I think a season out of Europe would be a good thing right now, firstly to give him a chance to rebuild, and secondly because we have no chance of winning anything without any competent defenders so Europe is just a waste of everyone's time at the moment.

On the plus side, thanks to Chelsea and Leicester also shitting themselves there are now only 10 points separating 3rd and 10th with six games to play, so the race for the CL spots is wide open and could be any two of those 8 teams (OK, probably not Burnley, but it's not impossible.) Arsenal have done well to climb above Spurs, but they've got four tough games coming up (OK three :lol: )
 
Top 4 getting really interesting now, if City do get banned it will open the race up even more.
 
Yes some big results yesterday, Leicester Utd and Chelsea all getting harder to catch, and Arsenal not giving up without a fight. I always thought Wolves have been punching above their weight, so will be no surprise to me if they fizzle out and finish mid table. Spurs have to beat Everton tomorrow to stay in the top 6 race (let's face it they're not going to make top four)
 
We going to find out about what's happening to City in Europe this week? My be is they get a suspended ban, money will talk.
 
Monday, I think.

I dunno what way I want it to go. On the one hand, they probably did break FFP and should be punished. BUT FFP is bollocks, created to keep the CL as a closed shop for the current big boys. Also, if City getting banned means Utd sneak in to CL then CLEARLY that is a bad thing :wink: :lol:

Also, if they are found guilty by UEFA and CAS agrees (and they lose their appeal) are the FA going to do anything? Or is financial engineering/cheating only bad in Europe!?

If they do get banned I wonder will Aguero and KDB stick around? Aguero is 32 ish and KDB 28, I think. Two years out of CL is probably Aguero's chances of winning it gone and KDB wasting 2 of the best years of his career. Sterling is young enough that he will have more chances, though I doubt he will be overly chuffed at missing it for two years.
 
Can anyone explain to me how a team with Kane, Lamela, Son, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Moura, and Bergwijn on the pitch don't manage ONE shot on target in 113 minutes!? WTF is going on with this team, that was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from them in 30 odd years. Lazy, inaccurate, clumsy, it was like watching a Sunday league team play after a night out. Poch's Spurs were **** at defending and perhaps a bit wafty in midfield, but this Spurs team can't get anything right! If they can't get one shot on target against a team in the bottom three that just lost five nil, forget top 4, this Spurs team are lucky to be in the PL at all.
 
edd_jedi said:
Can anyone explain to me how a team with Kane, Lamela, Son, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Moura, and Bergwijn on the pitch don't manage ONE shot on target in 113 minutes!? WTF is going on with this team, that was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from them in 30 odd years. Lazy, inaccurate, clumsy, it was like watching a Sunday league team play after a night out. Poch's Spurs were **** at defending and perhaps a bit wafty in midfield, but this Spurs team can't get anything right! If they can't get one shot on target against a team in the bottom three that just lost five nil, forget top 4, this Spurs team are lucky to be in the PL at all.

I agree, they were dreadful. Yes they should have had a penalty early on (what the hell is VAR for if it can't grant a penalty when a player is shoved in the back, pushing him over in the box?), but Christ Almighty, they were only playing Bournemouth not Barcelona! Bournemouth, a team with 6 straight defeats behind them, and all Spurs can manage is to scrape a nil nil draw against them! Aurier was **** (as usual), Lamela was incredibly selfish and **** (as usual), Winks was ****, the team's passing as a whole was diabolical, and they only bothered to even try to start playing with 5 minutes to go!... I really fear for Spurs against the Arse on Sunday :(
 
[mention]weasel[/mention] What you on about Man Utd sneaking in, were on the March!! :lol:

As for Spurs, one word. Jose.
 
So VAR have confirmed Spurs should have had a penalty. What the actual ****? If we miss out on the Europa League by 2 points, who's going to pay the revenue lost? Ridiculous. I know Wolves have famously suffered more than their fair share from VAR, but Spurs have got to be up there too.
 
edd_jedi said:
Can anyone explain to me how a team with Kane, Lamela, Son, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Moura, and Bergwijn on the pitch don't manage ONE shot on target in 113 minutes!? WTF is going on with this team, that was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from them in 30 odd years. Lazy, inaccurate, clumsy, it was like watching a Sunday league team play after a night out. Poch's Spurs were **** at defending and perhaps a bit wafty in midfield, but this Spurs team can't get anything right! If they can't get one shot on target against a team in the bottom three that just lost five nil, forget top 4, this Spurs team are lucky to be in the PL at all.

Snaketibe said:
I agree, they were dreadful. Yes they should have had a penalty early on (what the hell is VAR for if it can't grant a penalty when a player is shoved in the back, pushing him over in the box?), but Christ Almighty, they were only playing Bournemouth not Barcelona! Bournemouth, a team with 6 straight defeats behind them, and all Spurs can manage is to scrape a nil nil draw against them! Aurier was **** (as usual), Lamela was incredibly selfish and **** (as usual), Winks was ****, the team's passing as a whole was diabolical, and they only bothered to even try to start playing with 5 minutes to go!... I really fear for Spurs against the Arse on Sunday :(

I watched the game and I have to agree with every single word of that. That is one of the worst, dullest, games I have seen in a long long time. Bournemouth are gone, and Spurs looked every bit as lifeless as they did.
Jose doing a great job.

theforceuk said:
[mention]weasel[/mention] What you on about Man Utd sneaking in, were on the March!! :lol:

As for Spurs, one word. Jose.

A said to a few Utd supporting mates a week or so ago, I act fancied Utd for third as Leicester have imploded and Chelsea are no more than the tallest dwarf. Utd have been great in last 8 or so games, but if a team that was a **** as they were in the early part of the season, gets CL footy that is an indictment of how dreadful everyone else is.

As for that Utd penalty. HOW IN THE NAME OF GOOD **** IS THAT A PENALTY!??
Fernandes stands on the Villa defenders leg. HE fouls the defender. Then he screams like a bitch and rolls over. Ref falling for it, I get, he has 1 view in real time. But VAR WHAT ARE YOU DOING!? One replay of that from side on shows quite clearly it was NEVER EVER EVER a penalty. Yet the VAR review is over in 20 seconds. Decisions like that, and the Spurs non pen (I haven't seen Saints Everton but apparently it had a shocker too) make you wonder why we have VAR.
I get that there will always be a degree of contentious-ness. "was it a foul" or "is their enough contact for a pen" even "was it inside or outside the box" but that Fernandes one is the definition of a clear and obvious error. Exactly what VAR was brought in to remove from the game. FFS those esteemed and totally neutral pundits, GNev, Patrice Evra and Peter Schmeichel ALL said it was a nonsense. If VAR can't see that as a non foul then we need to look again at who is doing VAR as they are clearly retarded.

That rant isn't cos the decision favoured Utd. The game was poor but Utd would probably have won anyway, and I don't like Villa/Grealish and will be happy to see both back in the Championship. I am more pissed off at how blatantly wrong the decision was and yet VAR do nothing. Added to the non-goal SU were denied cos goal line tech wasn't turned on and VAR didn't feel any need to step in (seriously, WTF!?!?!) the fact FIFA are taking over the running of VAR from next season can't come soon enough. The referee's have made an utter utter shambles of it. I'm genuinely not sure they could have buggered it up more without actually deliberately trying. And they get paid for doing this. Anyone reading this could do a better job.

edd_jedi said:
So VAR have confirmed Spurs should have had a penalty. What the actual ****? If we miss out on the Europa League by 2 points, who's going to pay the revenue lost? Ridiculous. I know Wolves have famously suffered more than their fair share from VAR, but Spurs have got to be up there too.

Or if Bournemouth stay up by a pt/GD who is going to compensate the side who go down in their place? (Assuming the pen was scored and Spuds would have won.)
 
I said straight away it wasn't a pen and was convinced it was going to get over turned, but what can you say, shocking! I think 3rd is stretching it a bit, we will see. Green shoots are appearing, but they have been before and we end up back to square one. With the bar set so high at the moment, it's difficult to get any hopes up in the long term. Pretty amazed Man Utd are the first team to win 4 games in a row by three goals or more since Liverpool did it in 1987, would have put money on City or Liverpool having done that in the last 3 seasons.
 
Aye, most Utd fans I know agreed it was a nonsense. Though, obv they were not complaining.
I would just love the VAR bod to be put in front of the cameras to explain quite what the **** he was looking at. Then have the person interviewing him go full Roy Keane on his BS answer.

As for Utd, only 2pts behind Chelsea and Utd have a lovely run in plus they are in great form. I would put money on them making 3rd, if I was a betting man.
Leicester have collapsed. Brendan is a confidence merchant. Once things turn against him he has no answer. I can see them needing to beat Utd on the last day (with Utd already guaranteed CL) and they choke. I'd like to see leicester in CL, but only if Brendan doesn't rest his best players for the tricky games to try and keep them fresh for the league so they can improve their chances of ehhh qualifying for the completion he is shafting them in.

As for Utd, they do look great at the minute. Two things would worry me if I was a Utd fan. 1) there isn't really much beyond the starting 11. Mctominay is fine, Mata will do a job, williams looks promising. The rest ehhhh. 2) Will Fernandes keep his form up over an entire PL season? He has been brilliant so far, helped by a fairly nice run of games and a 13 week break. Playing PL tempo week in week out takes foreign players a while to adapt to.

I would also worry about Pogba's attitude come the first bump in the road, that back 5 "has a mistake in it" and OGS getting found out tactically by better/more experienced managers, but the first two are the main concerns.

Saying that, this is probably the first time since Fergy left that Utd have looked decent so I don't begrudge Utd fans actually enjoying their team not playing eye gougingly bad football for once.
 
Pogba's attitude is always a worry, he only has a year left on his contract and not even Real Madrid can afford him now, I can't see him wanting to go on a free. You watch him sign a new contract and within a year the antics will start again.

I think OGS is doing alright, he knows the club and I think he's the only manager since Fergie to both care and realise what an opportunity having that job is. You look at all the players he has bought have been spot on so far, we need a phew more though.

Spurs and Villa are right to be on one about VAR, especially Spurs, complete joke.
 
I didn't realise he only had a year on his contract. The cynic in me thinks that is the reason he is trying again. He is a fantastic player, on his day. But his attitude is a disgrace. If I was Utd and I could find a replacement, I would seriously consider any decent offers. Get shot of him before he destroys the team with his BS.

As for OGS, he has done OK so far. He has done well flogging some of the deadwood. Although given just how much there was he could probably have pulled names out of a hat and done just as well. I was a bit surprised to see Smalling forced out, I thought he was solid enough, but we don't see him in training etc. Did OGS buy Maguire!? Who else has he bought? AWB and obv Fernandez?

I do worry about OGS when he comes up against the bug managers in a tactical battle. The thin squad limits his options as well. But I guess he hasn't disgraced himself so far. I can't shake the feeling that he has been promoted miles above his level, but unlike Moyesy, he doesn't scream it.
 
Yeah he signed Maquire, he was expensive but Utd were held to ransom, what do you do? Someone else would have signed him for that and we would still be looking for a half decent centre half! He also signed Wan-Bissaka, Dan James and Ighalo.

He has got rid of some that needed to go, I agree Smalling should have stayed. The fact that Smalling's gone but PHIL JONES is still on the pay role is mind boggling.

I know what you saying about OGS being out of his depth, but I think more young managers should be given chances like that, imagine if Barcelona had never given Pep a chance, Zidane at Real Madrid would they have been as successful as they have been if they had started their careers at Cardiff?
 
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