Palitoy landfill

[Joe]

Good thing Spoons is a collector isn't it :lol:

 

[theforceuk]

This is why we all still dream. :lol:

 

[currymonster6290]

hi

they was 2 landfill,s mainone was in lount and the other one was in outskirts of repton/hartshourne all the loose ships and figs were dumped here must of been 1000,s of course they were all the rejects from the factory

I only live a few miles away and I no roughly the area they were dumped,i can remember this as kid, and I have visted the site a few times in my younger years

it has been years since,so things may of changed,not much I think as it is farmland now

joey

can you remember any more from this I sometimes get out that way on my tractor and was only at bretby the
other week! so I also know a few farmers who tend not to move to far so might have info.

 

[currymonster6290]

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Anyone got a shovel?

:lol:

Jason

ive been with a shovel and the postcode printed is wrong! :lol:

 

[poncho]

count me in lets finance this project boys.

lets hope it doesnt cost us millions like the burmease spitfire dig :?

 

[Richard_H]

Sorry but I'm not buying most of this. I'm aware of the 2 landfills, possibly a 3rd. But I'm also aware of local children who would come across toys, pull their heads off and use them as catapult ammunition. How could this be possible if they're buried 40ft down? I think at best there'll be a lot of damaged plastic, paint condition?, and soggy cardboard

 

[robpmarsh]

I'd be in.....just to own a peice of 'something vintage' from the endeavor would be enough. Could be a pipedream....but u never know

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

I love the thought of doing this but, sadly, it's not going to happen. It's an awesome pipe dream over a pint or few.

It's a licenced waste site and even IF the owners (SITA) allowed us (which they wouldn't due to the hazards of digging 40ft down into unstable ground made up of waste and the possible environmental damage from the exposure to the atmosphere of 40 year old plastics, chemicals and god knows what else) then the local authority would block it. And as for plastic not degrading; green limbed Chewie, anyone?

Let's discuss it over a pint next Thursday at CE3 at which point I won't be nearly so sensible and be well up for it.

 

[currymonster6290]

I love the thought of doing this but, sadly, it's not going to happen. It's an awesome pipe dream over a pint or few.

It's a licenced waste site and even IF the owners (SITA) allowed us (which they wouldn't due to the hazards of digging 40ft down into unstable ground made up of waste and the possible environmental damage from the exposure to the atmosphere of 40 year old plastics, chemicals and god knows what else) then the local authority would block it. And as for plastic not degrading; green limbed Chewie, anyone?

Let's discuss it over a pint next Thursday at CE3 at which point I won't be nearly so sensible and be well up for it.

the postcode is wrong the site is on private land and you can still see the mounds! the chap that owns it
used to get people rabbiting and they would dig up action man stuff :wink:

 

[x-pack]

I love the thought of doing this but, sadly, it's not going to happen. It's an awesome pipe dream over a pint or few.

It's a licenced waste site and even IF the owners (SITA) allowed us (which they wouldn't due to the hazards of digging 40ft down into unstable ground made up of waste and the possible environmental damage from the exposure to the atmosphere of 40 year old plastics, chemicals and god knows what else) then the local authority would block it. And as for plastic not degrading; green limbed Chewie, anyone?

Let's discuss it over a pint next Thursday at CE3 at which point I won't be nearly so sensible and be well up for it.

Over a pint!? We'll be off to Ashby shovels and picks in hand! ;-)

 

[spoons]

I love the thought of doing this but, sadly, it's not going to happen. It's an awesome pipe dream over a pint or few.

It's a licenced waste site and even IF the owners (SITA) allowed us (which they wouldn't due to the hazards of digging 40ft down into unstable ground made up of waste and the possible environmental damage from the exposure to the atmosphere of 40 year old plastics, chemicals and god knows what else) then the local authority would block it. And as for plastic not degrading; green limbed Chewie, anyone?

Let's discuss it over a pint next Thursday at CE3 at which point I won't be nearly so sensible and be well up for it.

I dig holes for a living, and we wouldn't dig 41 ft down (I doubt that figure is true - I assume they uised an old quarry but might have dug a bespoke pit)- we'd dig a relatively shallow test trench, check preservation, make up of the soil and take it from there. If its not on SITA land it would be easy to do with the land owners permission on the basis of a promise of SW millions.

In reality we probably would only find soggy cardboard and degraded figures but it would only be a day's work and the cost of a JCB to confirm that. If preservation was good (it is likely to be fairly anaerobic in places), then we can discuss excavating the whole pit :mrgreen:

Currymonster if you could let me have the landowner's details I am happy to make this work.

 

[Andyclarke]

I love the thought of doing this but, sadly, it's not going to happen. It's an awesome pipe dream over a pint or few.

It's a licenced waste site and even IF the owners (SITA) allowed us (which they wouldn't due to the hazards of digging 40ft down into unstable ground made up of waste and the possible environmental damage from the exposure to the atmosphere of 40 year old plastics, chemicals and god knows what else) then the local authority would block it. And as for plastic not degrading; green limbed Chewie, anyone?

Let's discuss it over a pint next Thursday at CE3 at which point I won't be nearly so sensible and be well up for it.

I dig holes for a living, and we wouldn't dig 41 ft down (I doubt that figure is true - I assume they uised an old quarry but might have dug a bespoke pit)- we'd dig a relatively shallow test trench, check preservation, make up of the soil and take it from there. If its not on SITA land it would be easy to do with the land owners permission on the basis of a promise of SW millions.

In reality we probably would only find soggy cardboard and degraded figures but it would only be a day's work and the cost of a JCB to confirm that. If preservation was good (it is likely to be fairly anaerobic in places), then we can discuss excavating the whole pit :mrgreen:

Currymonster if you could let me have the landowner's details I am happy to make this work.

You'd certainly have my financial backing. Maybe it's your destiny to discover these.
If they were packed in boxes and were still carded, there's a chance some of the figures might be OK. I would expect the odd drier pocket.

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Make it happen...

 

[Andyclarke]

Make it happen...

Brilliant!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

I love the thought of doing this but, sadly, it's not going to happen. It's an awesome pipe dream over a pint or few.

It's a licenced waste site and even IF the owners (SITA) allowed us (which they wouldn't due to the hazards of digging 40ft down into unstable ground made up of waste and the possible environmental damage from the exposure to the atmosphere of 40 year old plastics, chemicals and god knows what else) then the local authority would block it. And as for plastic not degrading; green limbed Chewie, anyone?

Let's discuss it over a pint next Thursday at CE3 at which point I won't be nearly so sensible and be well up for it.

the postcode is wrong the site is on private land and you can still see the mounds! the chap that owns it
used to get people rabbiting and they would dig up action man stuff :wink:

Oh well, in which case; have shovel will travel

I reckon we get permission to camp as well. Could be like the gold rush days of the old West; sitting round a fire, drinking beer, eating beans and farting whilst dreaming of buried treasure.

 

[naughtyjedi]

would make a great film... kickstarter anyone?

 

[Andyclarke]

would make a great film... kickstarter anyone?

I was thinking the same!!

 

[spoons]

There are two quarries close by and both infilled by the 90s. One is currently the local landfill (the post code site - just down the road from where Google maps sites you) and would be one to steer clear of, the other to the north looks more promising but is that a site that Palitoy used?

 

[robpmarsh]

I think Kickstarter will attract the wrong type of person who would just flip whatever was found for a huge profit. The rest of us would be doing it for the historical/collecting reason

 

[Andyclarke]

There are two quarries close by and both infilled by the 90s. One is currently the local landfill (the post code site - just down the road from where Google maps sites you) and would be one to steer clear of, the other to the north looks more promising but is that a site that Palitoy used?

I wonder if the Palitoy employees might know. I'm sure Vectis would allow a trusted person to contact them direct to find out. Rich??

 

[spoons]

I think Kickstarter will attract the wrong type of person who would just flip whatever was found for a huge profit. The rest of us would be doing it for the historical/collecting reason

thats a good point

There are two quarries close by and both infilled by the 90s. One is currently the local landfill (the post code site - just down the road from where Google maps sites you) and would be one to steer clear of, the other to the north looks more promising but is that a site that Palitoy used?

I wonder if the Palitoy employees might know. I'm sure Vectis would allow a trusted person to contact them direct to find out. Rich??

I can email Bob Brechin and see how good his memory is

 

[Andyclarke]

I think Kickstarter will attract the wrong type of person who would just flip whatever was found for a huge profit. The rest of us would be doing it for the historical/collecting reason

thats a good point

There are two quarries close by and both infilled by the 90s. One is currently the local landfill (the post code site - just down the road from where Google maps sites you) and would be one to steer clear of, the other to the north looks more promising but is that a site that Palitoy used?

I wonder if the Palitoy employees might know. I'm sure Vectis would allow a trusted person to contact them direct to find out. Rich??

I can email Bob Brechin and see how good his memory is

Excellent, if he doesn't know he might know someone who does. See what he has to say first before we influence his memories!

 

[naughtyjedi]

I think Kickstarter will attract the wrong type of person who would just flip whatever was found for a huge profit. The rest of us would be doing it for the historical/collecting reason

no, kickstarter for the film....

 

[theforceuk]

One problem I see here, is the land owner could just turn around at the end of it all and say thanks for digging my stuff up now I'll take over!

 

[scooternick]

Puts a different meaning to U grading :wink:

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

One problem I see here, is the land owner could just turn around at the end of it all and say thanks for digging my stuff up now I'll take over!

There's probably a proforma contract thing out on the interweb somewhere. Detectorists must use them all the time with landowners. We'd need something in writing anyway giving exclusive digging rights for a period of time otherwise it could turn into a free for all.

 

[spoons]

I seriously doubt that there will be anything that the landowner wants to keep

Bob Brechin said his Lount landfill quote was a bit of a throwaway one, but he also said the landowner wouldn't let us dig.

Over to currymonster for the location

As to forms, we have landowner consent forms at work that I could use, but no use without knowing who the landowner is

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

Once you know the field then about £3 on the Land Registry website get you the owner's details. Local enquiries are likely to be necessary to locate the owner once you have the name. Surrounding farms and businesses will know.

 

[laurencedyer]

You lot are off your tits!

It must take someone deluded to persue the "Farmers Field Myth" .

Palitoy used two main landfills, Coalville that they literally filled full of plastic and cardboard from the packaging factory and Lount tip which is half a mile from the Finished Goods warehouse where they would dispose of end of line products.

Lount tip is where people would scale the fence and help themselves to perfectly good packaged toys just sitting there on the waste pile. However the old Lount Landfill site now has the M42 built across it, where the road has slightly sunk. The current Lount location is simply a recycling centre as all tips are in this day and age.

The only hole that I have discovered that was dug and filled is in Mountsorrel, this was dug and filled with Mainline trains. The Tax inspectors witnessed them being dumped in and then crushed by a digger before being infilled for write off purposes.

 

[scooternick]

Good thread though! Nothing wrong with a nice dream sequence!@

You lot are off your tits!

It must take someone deluded to persue the "Farmers Field Myth" .

Palitoy used two main landfills, Coalville that they literally filled full of plastic and cardboard from the packaging factory and Lount tip which is half a mile from the Finished Goods warehouse where they would dispose of end of line products.

Lount tip is where people would scale the fence and help themselves to perfectly good packaged toys just sitting there on the waste pile. However the old Lount Landfill site now has the M42 built across it, where the road has slightly sunk. The current Lount location is simply a recycling centre as all tips are in this day and age.

The only hole that I have discovered that was dug and filled is in Mountsorrel, this was dug and filled with Mainline trains. The Tax inspectors witnessed them being dumped in and then crushed by a digger before being infilled for write off purposes.